Chicago builds a 40

rusty_tlc · 08-27-09, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mace

He's thought about it

chicago · 08-28-09, 06:06 AM

Mace and I had discussed it off line...It was a fleeting thought.
Im gonna run the leafs for the time being. I know how and what to do with em. If I feel the need AND OR, I HAVE TO Ill look harder at it. However, I have enough work on my plate, that I just wanna get her running with the new drive train and wheel her.
There is TONS of money to spend just getting her to a point where I can use it. So, that is where Im at on that subject.

Lately Ive only been able to get an hour here and there.
I got the last tub bolt free at the front! So Im stoked about that.
Then I directed my attention to the rear of the rig and the bolts at the END of the tub...UGH!
2LBS of dirt SOCKED in to each of the rear blinker sockets...
HOLY CRAP! When I build, I take GREAT CARE in making sure things are as CLEAN AS POSSIBLE, to the point that Im OCD. I do this, so later on down the road they DONT end up like this.... I realize that the 2nd pic is washed out, but you can see all the CRAP that had accumulated back there on the floor.

chicago · 08-28-09, 06:07 AM

Here is a shot of the dash with everything cleared out...
Kind cool. I like these before shots to see the progress later on down the road.

Mace · 08-28-09, 08:23 AM

I see HF sockets

Take your rear FJ62 springs and use them on the back of the rig. Mount the shackle hanger verticaly on the back of your rear bumper.

You can get a 104ish WB fairly easily.

that is until you link it

rusty_tlc · 08-28-09, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mace

I see HF sockets

Take your rear FJ62 springs and use them on the back of the rig. Mount the shackle hanger verticaly on the back of your rear bumper.

You can get a 104ish WB fairly easily.

that is until you link it

Don't encourage him, 62 leafs are only delaying the inevitable.

chicago · 08-30-09, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mace

I see HF sockets

Take your rear FJ62 springs and use them on the back of the rig. Mount the shackle hanger verticaly on the back of your rear bumper.

You can get a 104ish WB fairly easily.

that is until you link it

YEAH MAAAAAAAN! I like the HF stuff. Use the impact wrench sockets and have never had any issues.
Im not quite understanding the shackle hanger VERTICALLY on the bumper?!
Wait...never mind! I think that I just got it.

K

chicago · 09-02-09, 06:02 AM

SOOOOO, havent made ANY progress on the 40 (still dont have a name for it yet...thinking about the BRUISE, cuz she's all banged up. I had a camping obligation with the family last weekend which was a lot of fun, but also a 3 ring circus. Wife, me, 2 daughters, their 2 boyz (5 and 7) and the other daughters 9mo old baby).
Then, a friend here locally asked me to chop a set of doors for him in the beginning of summer...I spent a lot of time STARING at them thinking about the best approach to do it how he wanted them. So Ive been spending most of my spare garage time doing those. So, since they are 40 doors, Ill post up the progress pics on those.

Thick doors
chopped
internal panel removed and re skinned with 18g
Gusseted for stability in the middle (youll see the plug welds)
NO interior latch handle (he didnt want it)
Pull handle
Had to make an access panel for the latch
I capped with 1x3 square stock (not sure of the gauge)
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BTW, Im not a big fan of body work. Im not very good at it, it takes me a LOOOOONG time to make it "right". Just havent found a really good technique for welding that thin ga stuff. Im using my 220v Hobart 176 which is a bit too hot even on the lowest setting to be really productive.

Chicago

chicago · 09-02-09, 06:05 AM

Here's a few more with MOST all the welds done on the BIG side. Still have to weld in the ends that will require some fancy capping. He wants the AFT end of the door to be somewhat beveled/ rounded so its not dangerous. IIRC, RustyTLC had the same request when I did his as well.

chicago · 09-02-09, 06:09 AM

That re skin of solid sheet metal looks better than I thought it would. I thought it might look too plain, but it turned out pretty good. I might do the same with mine. It was EASY to do as well. He is gonna have it professionally prepped and painted to cover my hack work.
Since Ill be very busy the next few weeks...45 run, Granny Hansen from Chicago is coming in to town...Ill keep this thread alive with odds and ends that have been happening.

Chicago

EWheeler · 09-02-09, 07:38 AM

Those doors look awesome. I will definitely be referring back to this thread when I go to do mine sometime in the far future.

Mace · 09-02-09, 08:18 AM

.023 welding wire?

If not, get some and you will be much happier with welding sheetmetal

rusty_tlc · 09-02-09, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chicago

That re skin of solid sheet metal looks better than I thought it would. I thought it might look too plain, but it turned out pretty good. I might do the same with mine. It was EASY to do as well. He is gonna have it professionally prepped and painted to cover my hack work.
Since Ill be very busy the next few weeks...45 run, Granny Hansen from Chicago is coming in to town...Ill keep this thread alive with odds and ends that have been happening.

Chicago

I'm thinking you should start planning a rear bumper with tire/gas can carrier for your 40. Since your truck is mostly disassembled I'll loan you mine to practice on.

JK Fordyce is probably the last trip of the summer for me so I'll have all winter to build a bumper. Speaking of Fordyce, are we going to finish the Blotch body mods on that trip?

chicago · 09-03-09, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mace

.023 welding wire?

If not, get some and you will be much happier with welding sheetmetal

HMMMM...no, Ive been running the .030 Lincoln flux core wire.
Might have to buy a lil spool of that .023 for the other door.

Thanks for the tip Mace!

K

chicago · 09-03-09, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rusty_tlc

I'm thinking you should start planning a rear bumper with tire/gas can carrier for your 40. Since your truck is mostly disassembled I'll loan you mine to practice on.

JK Fordyce is probably the last trip of the summer for me so I'll have all winter to build a bumper. Speaking of Fordyce, are we going to finish the Blotch body mods on that trip?

Ive been considering that along with Maces suggestion on setting the shackle hanger on the rear bumper to stretch the WB...
Im thinking that a rear bumper on the 40 will be EASY, depending on how youll wanna affix the bumper to the frame. I like that idea of running through bolts to the existing bolts. Welding the swingouts will be a snap. Just gotta get the spindles, latch and struts (if you want em). Making a card board template of the hole layout like you were talking about would be EXTREMELY USEFUL.

Im gonna have to see where I stand with Fordyce. If I go, I wont be so worried about keeping the body straight anymore.

It is a Friday leave, or Sat. leave? I dont have much PTO available right now...

K

chicago · 09-03-09, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by EWheeler

Those doors look awesome. I will definitely be referring back to this thread when I go to do mine sometime in the far future.

Thanks brotha!
The guy Im doing them for wanted the steel skin on the interior...I didnt think that Id like it, but I really dig how it came out. It is ROCK SOLID all welded up. I think that center support that I welded in make a HUGE difference in structure. Using the 1x3 square tube for the caps was also a great way to go as well. I cut em in half length wise, set em in the door hole (place that needed to be capped...) and left em 3/16 in proud and welded em in. This allowed for straighter panels, and some re enforcement at the top. It also was MUCH EASIER to weld in and also do the clean up grinding.
I got 98% of it finished last night. Just gotta do some quilt work at the back end of the door around the latch area.

K

Mace · 09-03-09, 08:20 AM

go buy a bottle of gas for your welder, sheet metal will be sooo much easier..

rusty_tlc · 09-03-09, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chicago

Ive been considering that along with Maces suggestion on setting the shackle hanger on the rear bumper to stretch the WB...
Im thinking that a rear bumper on the 40 will be EASY, depending on how youll wanna affix the bumper to the frame. I like that idea of running through bolts to the existing bolts. Welding the swingouts will be a snap. Just gotta get the spindles, latch and struts (if you want em). Making a card board template of the hole layout like you were talking about would be EXTREMELY USEFUL.

Im gonna have to see where I stand with Fordyce. If I go, I wont be so worried about keeping the body straight anymore.

It is a Friday leave, or Sat. leave? I dont have much PTO available right now...

K

I have a piece of masonite I'll use to make a template, that will hold up for longer than cardboard. You know you'll be making more FJ40 bumpers once you do the first one right?

The Fordyce Trail head is just past the Cisco Grove exit on I-80. I'm thinking about camping at Eagle Lake Friday with

*. It's close enough you could come up after work if you want. The 'Fishal meet time is Saturday AM.

*It should be fun teaching her to hook up the trailer and tow it with the 100.

nicholastheczar · 09-03-09, 08:33 PM

Been watching your build. Have you decided what you are going to do as far as wiring harness? I'm at that stage now and am looking at putting in a new harness and being done w/ it. EZ seems to be more of my price range as well as the Gem Street Rods. I'll be watching to see which way you decide to go.

Nick

chicago · 09-04-09, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by nicholastheczar

Been watching your build. Have you decided what you are going to do as far as wiring harness? I'm at that stage now and am looking at putting in a new harness and being done w/ it. EZ seems to be more of my price range as well as the Gem Street Rods. I'll be watching to see which way you decide to go.

Nick

Nick,
Im on the verge of trying to do the Vortec harness myself (stock, uncut harness). I have a friend who is an electrical engineer whom I may recruit to help. Here, you can get the whole harness including all the emissions crap for 150 bucks out at the auto wreckers. As for the stock 40 harness...Its gone. Im gonna do the EZ wire/ some variation as recommended earlier on here.
Where are you at with yours?

Keith

450 DUDE · 09-04-09, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mace

go buy a bottle of gas for your welder, sheet metal will be sooo much easier..

Do this NOW your a crazy man for doing sheet metal in FC

Looking forward to more pics!

ken

D'Animal · 09-04-09, 08:52 PM

Buy a few tips as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicago

HMMMM...no, Ive been running the .030 Lincoln flux core wire.
Might have to buy a lil spool of that .023 for the other door.

Thanks for the tip Mace!

K

nicholastheczar · 09-05-09, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicago

Nick,
Im on the verge of trying to do the Vortec harness myself (stock, uncut harness). I have a friend who is an electrical engineer whom I may recruit to help. Here, you can get the whole harness including all the emissions crap for 150 bucks out at the auto wreckers. As for the stock 40 harness...Its gone. Im gonna do the EZ wire/ some variation as recommended earlier on here.
Where are you at with yours?

Keith

I'll probably do the EZ then. I'm doing TBI and bought a stock harness and ECM out of a 88 Chevy Suburban for 140 off Ebay.

Currently I've got the body back on the frame after cleaning and PORing it and the underside of the tub. I'm trying to decide which route I'm going to go now, suspension lift or SOA to fit 35's.
Here's a link to mine:
http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series...frame-off.html

Nick

chicago · 09-07-09, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nicholastheczar

i'll probably do the ez then. I'm doing tbi and bought a stock harness and ecm out of a 88 chevy suburban for 140 off ebay.

Currently i've got the body back on the frame after cleaning and poring it and the underside of the tub. I'm trying to decide which route i'm going to go now, suspension lift or soa to fit 35's.
Here's a link to mine:
http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series...frame-off.html

nick

great thread!!!!!

chicago · 09-07-09, 07:55 PM

So, I did the 45 run this weekend and had a BLAST!
Got home yesterday and the wife was gonna go shopping with some friends...It dawned on me that it was 50% off at Pick n pull this weekend.!

I roll my happy ass over there, LUG my big FAT, HEAVY tool bag up to the counter and plunk that bitch into a wheel barrow. I find an 88 chevy silverado with some 63 in springs. "Sweet!" Snatch those up cuz Im hoping I can use em for the WB stretch....The look a little long. Then I find a Sag box gleaming out in the open, nice and easy for me to pull from another Chevy PU. Snag that.
VERY HAPPY about the score!
Call up RustyTLC to see what he is doing and I wander over to his place with my newly acquired possessions...He takes ONE LOOK at the box..."UMMMM, the mounting bolts are on the wrong side."
FAAAAAWWWWWWK!!!! Totally the WRONG ONE!

Then we got some prelim. measurements on the 63 springs...Not sure if those are gonna work either....Ah well.

Started as a GREAT day...Cool, sunny and hungover with a 50% off sale at Pick and pull!

chicago · 09-07-09, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 450 DUDE

Do this NOW your a crazy man for doing sheet metal in FC

Looking forward to more pics!

ken

Yeah, well....
Im a 60 series guy and dont wanna spend the coin on the gas!

Not doing TOO BAD. Its a PITA fo so. This round wasnt too bad though.

K

chicago · 09-07-09, 07:59 PM

Oh yeah...here are a few pics of how the door finished out after grinding.
Some low spots that'll need a bit of putty, but over all I was happy.

K

rusty_tlc · 09-07-09, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicago

So, I did the 45 run this weekend and had a BLAST!
Got home yesterday and the wife was gonna go shopping with some friends...It dawned on me that it was 50% off at Pick n pull this weekend.!

I roll my happy ass over there, LUG my big FAT, HEAVY tool bag up to the counter and plunk that bitch into a wheel barrow. I find an 88 chevy silverado with some 63 in springs. "Sweet!" Snatch those up cuz Im hoping I can use em for the WB stretch....The look a little long. Then I find a Sag box gleaming out in the open, nice and easy for me to pull from another Chevy PU. Snag that.
VERY HAPPY about the score!
Call up RustyTLC to see what he is doing and I wander over to his place with my newly acquired possessions...He takes ONE LOOK at the box..."UMMMM, the mounting bolts are on the wrong side."
FAAAAAWWWWWWK!!!! Totally the WRONG ONE!

Then we got some prelim. measurements on the 63 springs...Not sure if those are gonna work either....Ah well.

Started as a GREAT day...Cool, sunny and hungover with a 50% off sale at Pick and pull!

You left out the part where you pi$$ed on my party by pointing out my tweaked up wrap bar shackle.

chicago · 09-08-09, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rusty_tlc

You left out the part where you pi$$ed on my party by pointing out my tweaked up wrap bar shackle.

Didnt wanna ruin YOUR part of the story.

chicago · 09-09-09, 08:04 PM

Mace (or anyone else)
We had discussed using an IFS mini truck toy axle...
What would be a good t case to throw behind the 203 for a centered rear diff?
Just had an idea...

Okay, since Im a CHEAP ASS...anything BUT the high dollar gear boxes. That crap will come later on.

Thanks,

Keith

brokenparts · 09-09-09, 08:38 PM

14 bolt and a np 205... dont forget to twin stick it.