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Old 12-08-04, 01:41 AM   #1
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Rascal what happened to your rear axel?

Bruce,

Did not want to hijack Woodys thread. I saw Grog’s post about you needing to fix you rear axle. What happened?


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Ask Butch :laughing:

Actually, Bruce got his truck WAY STUCK and ended up having to call in reinforcements (Me and Butch)

Butch was driving and I was operating the winch.

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was the Clayton episode? That was a damage filled weekend for sure!!


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Isn't it always. BTW, I am pissed I took some advice of your Butch :(


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Mark,

We were in Clayton at the end of the best day of wheeling I have had to date. We had just finished getting through the bottom section of Blacksheep highway (Nolen can correct this if it's wrong) which was a really cool climb to a big ledge. Looking at this from the bottom - it is one of those that you say "No F'n Way..." Little did we know that, that was the easy part...

The rest of the run - about 1/8th of a mile was twisting and turning with VERY big rocks and ledges.

I had gotten to a point about mid way and lost my clutch. It was very strange because one second it was there and the next it was one. it was like the clutch pedal was pushed to the floor - but it wasn't. Butch came over to give me a hand and I ended up removing the slave cylynder (Which I had replaced earlier in the day because the old one blew). I think that the cylinder had a little ridge in it and the plunger just got stuck...

Once that was fixed - Butch was still in the drivers seat so he fired it up and went to move forward - but the rear drivers wheel was wedged pretty bad. - Next thing was BOOM.

Nolen proceeded to play tow truck and lifted the ass end out of the trail and I drove it back to the trailer.

I can't wait to run that trail again!!!

I've got all of the parts to rebuild the locker - which I buggered up in Moab. I'm going to send a pair of rear axles to Performance Cryo. And then put it all back together - hopefully until winter 05...


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Here's the old ARB case...







If you look at 9:00 on the last picture you can see wehre the case is out of round...
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Isn't it always. BTW, I am pissed I took some advice of your Butch :(
Lack of intelligence or ability on your part is not any of my fault.

BTW if you fawked up using the tape it would have really looked bad using glue......

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Lack of intelligence or ability on your part is not any of my fault.

BTW if you fawked up using the tape it would have really looked bad using glue......

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This sounds like a funny story - fess up!


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This sounds like a funny story - fess up!
No the one door I did with glue looks great.

I used 3M tape on the door weatherstrip and I put the tape on the door first and not on the seal. I was more worried about gettign a good stick to the metal.

Anyway, worked fine, you can just see white around the black wx strip. Looks like ass but it is functional.


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Nice, dam that had to have been a good ledge wedging your tire. I know people break rear axels every now and then not often. I have two sets of rears I might send down the street for Cyro myself.

New main body for the ARB? Everything else inside of it ok or did you just get a new locker?


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No the one door I did with glue looks great.

I used 3M tape on the door weatherstrip and I put the tape on the door first and not on the seal. I was more worried about gettign a good stick to the metal.

Anyway, worked fine, you can just see white around the black wx strip. Looks like ass but it is functional.

Get a new sharp Xacto knife and trim the tape away and remove it.

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Get a new sharp Xacto knife and trim the tape away and remove it.

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I did that.......thanks Dad.


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Nice, dam that had to have been a good ledge wedging your tire. I know people break rear axels every now and then not often. I have two sets of rears I might send down the street for Cyro myself.

New main body for the ARB? Everything else inside of it ok or did you just get a new locker?


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Nice, dam that had to have been a good ledge wedging your tire. I know people break rear axels every now and then not often. I have two sets of rears I might send down the street for Cyro myself.

New main body for the ARB? Everything else inside of it ok or did you just get a new locker?


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Interestingly, we broke 4 rear axles that weekend and one front/long. The front issue was kind of strange - I think it was more from some prior damage than anything at the point of breakage. I'd say that this is a pretty good testimony to the work that Bobby Long has done. also, the Pig 4340 inners complete a pretty stout font axle package!

I am replacing the diff case, the cross pin and all of the o-rings and seals. It is still much cheaper than a new locker. Tim Lund @ ARB USA really came through for me. And I am now much more knowledgeable about ARB Lockers. Between this and the field repair school that you held in South Dakota - I'm in pretty good shape!


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Interestingly, we broke 4 rear axles that weekend and one front/long. The front issue was kind of strange - I think it was more from some prior damage than anything at the point of breakage. I'd say that this is a pretty good testimony to the work that Bobby Long has done. also, the Pig 4340 inners complete a pretty stout font axle package!

I am replacing the diff case, the cross pin and all of the o-rings and seals. It is still much cheaper than a new locker. Tim Lund @ ARB USA really came through for me. And I am now much more knowledgeable about ARB Lockers. Between this and the field repair school that you held in South Dakota - I'm in pretty good shape!
YIKES! Well it does sound like a fun run, sans damage. Holy cow, must be the different terrain braking all the rear axels. I am not aware of one braking around here, most likely too wet to killing axel snapping traction. Dang ok I am on board now for Cyroing the ones I have, and putting a set in the trailer.

Cool deal on the tech support from ARB. It sure helps justify the cost of the air locker, they back you up 100% and don’t hesitate to next day air parts if needed. Yes Tim is a good guy he showed me around the ARB USA operation a few years ago. It was that visit I learned how easy it is to tare down the solenoids for service. Ok you’re my go to guy for when I blow up one of my ARBs and it needs a good rblt!


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Ask Butch :laughing:

Actually, Bruce got his truck WAY STUCK and ended up having to call in reinforcements (Me and Butch)

Butch was driving and I was operating the winch.

Damn dangerous brew.

I was standing right by the tire in question. Just as the words "boy, that looks like it is in a bind" were mentioned... Sorry about the jinx.
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