Injection or good carburator???

[Francesco_from_Italy]

By now I have some big troubles with my engine (it doesn't even start...) and this surely belongs to the carburator that is the stock one.
What do you suggest? A good carburator, that may make me gain some power and eliminate all carburation problems, or an injection system?

I found this seller: FJ40 & FJ45 Parts Landcruiser Parts
It says that the injection system is available, chip and simple to put on....WHAT DO YOU THINK???

Francesco

[Pacer]

Hi Francesco,
Is there anyone over there who you can borrow a carb from just to make sure that it is indeed the carb that is giving you problems?
Webber makes a conversion kit for the 2f, the 38/38 will improve performance slightly and the 32/36 will save a little more gas. I think you have to "desmog" your whole emissions system if you still have any. I know they are strict about that sort of thing over there Italy. EFI can be done, but it is going to take a while.

Jim C here on Mud will rebuild your fj's carb to run like new.....

[Francesco_from_Italy]

Hi Pacer; yes, of course I'll firt of all bring the car to someone to put in order the engine and the carburation.
But stock carburetor already gave me troubles in the past and I would work out this problem one time for all.

If I could gain a good result in terms of power increase and reliability just changing the carburator ok, but if the FINAL solution is to put the EFI so I'll do that (of course before I will examinate costs and times of the work).

I know that carburator change is quite simple, but I would know exactly what would mean to put an EFI (fuel pump, injcetors, electronic...would be a SO heavy work?).

Francesco

[Eskimo]

Carbs are for lawnmowers.

[Pacer]

Originally Posted by Eskimo

Carbs are for lawnmowers.

Oh yeah... Well Rockwells are for.... uh.... I got nothin

Franko, I say get the carb sorted out for this season, and go fulie over the winter!
you'll love it once it works.

[Tapage]

Dude .. if you choose the Carb way .. Holley Truck avenger it's the best option IMOP .. with proper settings I've seen some impresive things of engine that run it ..

[Francesco_from_Italy]

Seems that you are mostly for carburator...
From my engine I would like to get some more power but most of all reliability and regularity, and from that point of view I tought that an EFI would be better than a carb. Isn't it?

[Eskimo]

it is, but a q-jet is better than a truck avenger IMO.. Just from watching them on the trails..

EFI will be better than a carb when you're bouncing around or off-camber.

[Francesco_from_Italy]

Yes, also overhere I listened to good comments about carbs.
Just consider that in our trails we have a lot of mud and water and probably - in these elements - an EFI set would be more reliable than a carb (all my problems began when I crossed a big mud hole!).
Consider also that now I'm quite satisfied of my engine's power and I don't need to increase it.

So, let's talk like I choose definitly the EFI: cruiser parts would give me a new distributor and the ignictor, they say that I should just put them on and set the timing...is it really so simple??

[Tapage]

Originally Posted by Eskimo

EFI will be better than a carb when you're bouncing around or off-camber.

Sure the injection will be better in off camber and some hill climbs .. just the carbs are much more simple to work. In other way a TBI option should be also posible and a simple option ..

[TachedOutOffRoad]

Propane!!!!

Propane Conversion Kits

[Radd Cruisers]

Mark and Abel both have the booty fab injection and they work great.

[Francesco_from_Italy]

The cost of injection kit by cruiser parts is very cheap (220 $) so I think I'll buy it; then when it will be arrived I'll try to ut it on and see how it works.
One more thing: I thought that even the simplest injection system needed a control board, but from cruiser parts told me that their kit includes only coil, distributor and injector, is it possible?

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by Francesco_from_Italy

Hi Pacer; yes, of course I'll firt of all bring the car to someone to put in order the engine and the carburation.
But stock carburetor already gave me troubles in the past and I would work out this problem one time for all.

If I could gain a good result in terms of power increase and reliability just changing the carburator ok, but if the FINAL solution is to put the EFI so I'll do that (of course before I will examinate costs and times of the work).

I know that carburator change is quite simple, but I would know exactly what would mean to put an EFI (fuel pump, injcetors, electronic...would be a SO heavy work?).

Francesco

A rebuilt carb is what? Around $300 from Jim C and a couple hrs of your time? Fuel injection done right with new parts will be over $1500. Used, still well over $500 and a lot more time.

[Radd Cruisers]

If memeorey serves me, Mark and Abel only payed a couple hundred for thier set up, thinking the wiring was the most expensive part?

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by Francesco_from_Italy

The cost of injection kit by cruiser parts is very cheap (220 $) so I think I'll buy it; then when it will be arrived I'll try to ut it on and see how it works.
One more thing: I thought that even the simplest injection system needed a control board, but from cruiser parts told me that their kit includes only coil, distributor and injector, is it possible?

220?

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by Radd Cruisers

If memeorey serves me, Mark and Abel only payed a couple hundred for thier set up, thinking the wiring was the most expensive part?

Yeah I think TBI could be done on a shoe string budget. Getting all the parts at a parts yard. But figuring out the wiring would take a lot of man hrs. I'd much rather just buy a harness.

[Eskimo]

Originally Posted by Trollhole

A rebuilt carb is what? Around $300 from Jim C and a couple hrs of your time? Fuel injection done right with new parts will be over $1500. Used, still well over $500 and a lot more time.

I have $1500 in my entire 5.3 engine and fuel injection system.. It's not brand new, but 50k miles isn't exactly worn out..

[Francesco_from_Italy]

"Electronic Ignition Set, used dist. and ignitor. - any year - $220 - Distributor w/ignitor. Waterproof . Simple. "

This is the description on Cruiser Parts listing. A friend of mine told me that to him it is only a kit of waterproof parts (distributor and coil) and not really a TBI.
I sent several emails to Cruiser Parts asking questions about that "injection kit" but they never told me that this is NOT a really injection kit...meantime, the really low price makes me thing this is not a real injection kit!

Nobody knows something more about this seller and his products (especially this kit)?

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by Francesco_from_Italy

"Electronic Ignition Set, used dist. and ignitor. - any year - $220 - Distributor w/ignitor. Waterproof . Simple. "

This is the description on Cruiser Parts listing. A friend of mine told me that to him it is only a kit of waterproof parts (distributor and coil) and not really a TBI.
I sent several emails to Cruiser Parts asking questions about that "injection kit" but they never told me that this is NOT a really injection kit...meantime, the really low price makes me thing this is not a real injection kit!

Nobody knows something more about this seller and his products (especially this kit)?

That's not an injection kit just a distributor for a fuel injected motor.

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by Eskimo

I have $1500 in my entire 5.3 engine and fuel injection system.. It's not brand new, but 50k miles isn't exactly worn out..

Yes you suck.

More and more I dump money into my 2f the more and more I realize a v-8 would be so much better. But I'm trying to be brand loyal. Which is the main reason my stupid build is not in the hardcore section.

[Sputnik40]

I picked up my DUI (brand name) HEI converted for a 2F and a complete Astrovan FI, harness, computer, and a pump among lots of other little bits for $800 a few years ago. Hands down the best thing - I had a JC rebuilt carb. and had all sorts of problems for years - what he does is fantastic but never worked for my wheeling style.

I am not advocating this vender - but think that either Downey or Manafre (or both) have good websites with 2F FI conversion stuff.

There was a guy on here a while back trying to convince us megasquirt was easier - still havn't seen the proof, but will await his write up.

I too want to go v8 now - I've done a complete rebuild almost as nice as what Marshall is doing (sans the colour) and while it runs 80 on 40's on I-95, has been proven to run unside down and realistically run sideways for long periods of time - great around water, bumps, better gas mileage etc. etc.

[Francesco_from_Italy]

Man a Fre TBI kit has the amazing price of 2500 $!!! This is not for me...
Downey one seems to be some better: Downey Off-Road Fuel Injection
I just can't understand if in Poer Breather TB is all included or I have to add coil, module, plugs and all that stuff (althought it would be only a few dollars more expansive).

What do you think about that kit???

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by Francesco_from_Italy

Man a Fre TBI kit has the amazing price of 2500 $!!! This is not for me...
Downey one seems to be some better: Downey Off-Road Fuel Injection
I just can't understand if in Poer Breather TB is all included or I have to add coil, module, plugs and all that stuff (althought it would be only a few dollars more expansive).

What do you think about that kit???

Downey has a nice kit. I will say they are a really good company to deal with and always willing to help with issues. The information they have on the install is really good.

That being said there is another company who a couple of members have that have turned out to work well. I went with parts from them as well as some from Downey.

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