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Old 03-23-08, 02:07 PM   #1
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wanted - pics of cage to frame tie in

Anyone have images of cage to frame connections they don't mind sharing?

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Old 03-23-08, 07:19 PM   #2
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These come with the fj60 Cage Kit..


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I have some in my ROTM
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Old 03-23-08, 08:16 PM   #4
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here are some from the metaltech site
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Old 03-23-08, 10:27 PM   #5
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isotels will eliminate some viberation. i like that


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Old 03-23-08, 10:37 PM   #6
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I used both body outriggers for the front tie ins:
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Old 03-24-08, 12:36 AM   #7
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Yea, on my 40 my Body mounts are Beat!, The just hang too low, Im going to do away with the body mount and have one new mount that ties in the body/ Cage..


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Old 03-24-08, 07:11 PM   #8
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Thanks for the posts guys.

Does anyone have experience with both the hard connection or the isolated bushing one? I am doubtful if there is really that much vibration from the cage - maybe I am wrong?! Besides, wouldn't the hard connection also serve to stiffen the frame up?

I actually got a couple of the outriggers off a wrecked frame for the back of the sliders and "b" pillar of the cage. I haven't put too much thought into this but the general idea was to use 2 outriggers on each side (with some moderate reinforcements) to tie the sliders and the cage to the frame. Then plating the bottom as a skids (or boatsides in other words) to keep the bashing to a minimum. I haven't figured out how to keep them from collecting... mud.


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That's what I've done:









Hope will help you!

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Old 03-26-08, 10:21 PM   #10
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Here's a pic of how mine are done... FC Style... (click on pic)

(this is a picture of another rig, but mine is done exactly the same...)

The flat plate on top of the slider tie-in, is the mount for my A-pillar
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Old 03-27-08, 10:34 AM   #11
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YZF,

I check in on your build over on pirate every so often. Killer fenders! FC comes up with some great stuff and really raises the bar. Thanks for reminding me of that image. I'll keep that one in the back of my head for sure!

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Right on Thanks!

Yeah FC does some Incredible work! Wish I had half that talent..

I'm in the process of painting the aprons, and skins.. Gonna look good! I'll post up in that thread once I'm done.. (probably a week or two) Too busy with wedding planning stuff right now..


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Old 03-27-08, 07:02 PM   #13
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I just got married in December. I feel your pain!

I'll keep an eye out for the painted product. Get those latches too while your at it!

If you get a chance, please post up a few pics of the top side of the connection of the tube relative to the door jamb. If you have some pics of the rear connections too that would be much appreciated.

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Is it best to put the bushing at the frame or under the floor?

Sources for the bushed sleve, bolt & tabs?

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I just got married in December. I feel your pain!

I'll keep an eye out for the painted product. Get those latches too while your at it!

If you get a chance, please post up a few pics of the top side of the connection of the tube relative to the door jamb. If you have some pics of the rear connections too that would be much appreciated.

Thanks again!

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Andy,

Do you mean pics of the "A Pillar" connection for the roll cage? The body being on the frame will be tough to get an aerial shot of the sliders...

I'll crawl under the rig and get some close up shots of the top side of the slider connections this weekend...

I don't have frame tie-ins for the B and C pillars yet.. Those are on the list of many things to do in the future...

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Old 03-28-08, 10:48 AM   #16
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Thank YZF,

Yeah, I was looking for where the A pillar plate connects to the slider bracket above and below the tub. I lapsed on my star so my box was full. Problem fixed now and should be up and running shortly! Sorry about that.

For the B and C connections I am sure FC has a killer detail cooking in his brain.


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come on guys does anyone have any good photos of frame to cage connections?


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Thanks friend but I'm not calculating anything. Im just going on the "if I can get it to fit" calculator

You don't need adaptor plates. That's what gaffer tape was invented for.
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come on guys does anyone have any good photos of frame to cage connections?
The pics shown are not good?


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Full 8 pt. cage tied into frame on my 55 - pic shows 2 tied into the front outriggers (1st & 3rd one).
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Old 04-26-08, 03:43 PM   #20
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The pics shown are not good?
thats correct. they all suck.















































Just kidding. I am a glutton for punishment.
The more pics the better as I am sure that this subject will come up again and again, and the more ideas the better. (oh and I freikin look forward to seeing what awesome ideas you yanks come up with everyday! )


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Old 05-01-08, 01:25 PM   #21
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i think the top three photos sum it up?

basic idea, and you can go beyond that but all the same in the end.


speaking of which i got to get mine on


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Is that setup going to bete same as what Isotel is using?

What dia bolts are you using?


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Old 05-05-08, 02:37 PM   #23
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pretty much yes.

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Old 05-15-08, 11:04 PM   #24
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So I am still working through the frame tie in connections.

I have one question that I hope you guys can help clear up for me -

Is it better to isolate the cage from vibrations, or stiffen the frame with welded connections?

I get a pretty good amount of twisting in the frame when it's flexed out. Generally speaking I think that is a less desireable characteristic. But I do DD it and vibrations are really wearing on the rig and me.

Thanks for the posts and pics so far!

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I Welded my Frame, Body, Cage, and Slider all Together, and there was no noticeable difference between now and before the cage w/30 year old Body mounts. If any thing it feels Better!

Frame Flex is not as bad as it was, Here are some bad photos of my frame Ties, Only the 4 around the front seats are done for now, still need to figure out the Rear ones without having my tire get up into it!
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