GM type 2 or gen 2 power steering (SBC)

bandy rooster · 02-11-08, 08:32 PM

I have a SBC and saginaw power steering, 3 bolt box

i was wondering if theres any improvements on the later style i believe there type 2 or gen 2 power steering pumps? the brackets are cheap (60 bucks) and making a remote res. could be easy.

does anybody know the output at idle, anybody run it?

the rebuilt units are around 40 and you can get high performance ones aren't that bad either....

Bret · 02-11-08, 09:29 PM

I originally went to the auto-droid store and went through all the pumps to find a gen2 that looked like it would do what I wanted, installed the pump but it whined considerably under load. Thought it might be the pump, but before I could take it back I found a used Sweet racing pump and used it instead. All the noise went away and it has worked great. I have a SBC with the short H20 punp. The PS pump is mounted to the drivers side head with a Howe remote res. I'm using a FJ60 PS box. Makes for a very clean set up IMOP. With the short H20 pump I have had good luck with the high passenger mount alternator bracket.

Be sure to factor in pulley price between buying new and used. My used was $99 including pulley and fittings.

bandy rooster · 02-12-08, 01:16 PM

can you use a gen 2 with a long water pump?

i have seen this done one of my brothers friends fj40's, he had a race pump and a remote res. it looked very cleannn...

lowtideride · 02-12-08, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandy rooster

can you use a gen 2 with a long water pump?

i have seen this done one of my brothers friends fj40's, he had a race pump and a remote res. it looked very cleannn...

Haha...I think your talking to the same guy

bandy rooster · 02-12-08, 02:33 PM

weird.. lol i had the idea that i was but the snow in the background of the avatar through me off... maybe i'm blind...

lowtideride · 02-12-08, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandy rooster

weird.. lol i had the idea that i was but the snow in the background of the avatar through me off... maybe i'm blind...

Haha, you should know by now no one is actually from Florida

Bret · 02-12-08, 05:21 PM

OK that is too funny! The avatar is from one of the runs when I was in Alaska, a much colder time, with legit things to wheel on, and places to go that wasn't tresspassin'.

I am sure you can use the PS pump with either water pump. Here is a link to a possible solution.

Power Steering

lcwizard · 02-12-08, 05:48 PM

If you want to increase flow at idle unscrew the valve the pressure hose threads into. It's about 1 1/2" long and has a plunger and spring behind it. Hold it up to the light and look down the center and you'll see a small hole. Drill that out a couple gage sizes larger. Makes a big difference at idle

Pacer · 02-13-08, 12:00 PM

And will not adversely affect anything above idle? seals hold up?

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcwizard

If you want to increase flow at idle unscrew the valve the pressure hose threads into. It's about 1 1/2" long and has a plunger and spring behind it. Hold it up to the light and look down the center and you'll see a small hole. Drill that out a couple gage sizes larger. Makes a big difference at idle

bandy rooster · 02-13-08, 01:09 PM

yeah i know how to change the sag. pump i have now.. but i'm talking about the gen 2, which i believe is two stage pump... i think its around 2.5 GPM at idle and less at a higher speed...

lcwizard · 02-13-08, 09:37 PM

I've had no problems, the system has a built in pressure relief so the pump will never produce too much pressure.This is a common modification by the 'high performance' steering builders

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacer

And will not adversely affect anything above idle? seals hold up?

02-11-08, 08:32 PM	#1
bandy rooster IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sunny South Posts: 1,882	GM type 2 or gen 2 power steering (SBC) I have a SBC and saginaw power steering, 3 bolt box i was wondering if theres any improvements on the later style i believe there type 2 or gen 2 power steering pumps? the brackets are cheap (60 bucks) and making a remote res. could be easy. does anybody know the output at idle, anybody run it? the rebuilt units are around 40 and you can get high performance ones aren't that bad either.... __________________ 71fj40-350,SM465,3SPD L/C T-Case,4 WDB's,SAGINAW Dude!, those are my work moccasins!

02-12-08, 01:16 PM	#3
bandy rooster IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sunny South Posts: 1,882	can you use a gen 2 with a long water pump? i have seen this done one of my brothers friends fj40's, he had a race pump and a remote res. it looked very cleannn... __________________ 71fj40-350,SM465,3SPD L/C T-Case,4 WDB's,SAGINAW Dude!, those are my work moccasins!

02-12-08, 02:33 PM	#5
bandy rooster IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sunny South Posts: 1,882	weird.. lol i had the idea that i was but the snow in the background of the avatar through me off... maybe i'm blind... __________________ 71fj40-350,SM465,3SPD L/C T-Case,4 WDB's,SAGINAW Dude!, those are my work moccasins!

02-13-08, 01:09 PM	#10
bandy rooster IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sunny South Posts: 1,882	yeah i know how to change the sag. pump i have now.. but i'm talking about the gen 2, which i believe is two stage pump... i think its around 2.5 GPM at idle and less at a higher speed... __________________ 71fj40-350,SM465,3SPD L/C T-Case,4 WDB's,SAGINAW Dude!, those are my work moccasins!

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02-11-08, 09:29 PM	#2
Bret IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 559	I originally went to the auto-droid store and went through all the pumps to find a gen2 that looked like it would do what I wanted, installed the pump but it whined considerably under load. Thought it might be the pump, but before I could take it back I found a used Sweet racing pump and used it instead. All the noise went away and it has worked great. I have a SBC with the short H20 punp. The PS pump is mounted to the drivers side head with a Howe remote res. I'm using a FJ60 PS box. Makes for a very clean set up IMOP. With the short H20 pump I have had good luck with the high passenger mount alternator bracket. Be sure to factor in pulley price between buying new and used. My used was $99 including pulley and fittings.

02-12-08, 05:21 PM	#7
Bret IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 559	OK that is too funny! The avatar is from one of the runs when I was in Alaska, a much colder time, with legit things to wheel on, and places to go that wasn't tresspassin'. I am sure you can use the PS pump with either water pump. Here is a link to a possible solution. Power Steering

02-12-08, 05:48 PM	#8
lcwizard IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Globe Arizona Posts: 465	If you want to increase flow at idle unscrew the valve the pressure hose threads into. It's about 1 1/2" long and has a plunger and spring behind it. Hold it up to the light and look down the center and you'll see a small hole. Drill that out a couple gage sizes larger. Makes a big difference at idle