h1 back spacing

brokenparts · 01-31-08, 10:56 PM

I found a deal on some recentered h1 rims. They have been back spaced by copperhead fab 3.75. I'm planning on running my d60 and 14 bolt at full width. Good idea or ?

LC_Hamma · 01-31-08, 11:11 PM

Since you're runnin 16.5's, caliper clearance won't be a problem, even w/ disk on the rear.... Run IT

brokenparts · 01-31-08, 11:16 PM

that's the info i was looking for... Thanks. Any idea of what approx width I'd be at running 14" wide tires ( iroks).

Mace · 01-31-08, 11:35 PM

~ 86" wide...

Or so..

Make the trailer fenders drive over

My H1 rims are about 5.5" BS...

brokenparts · 01-31-08, 11:37 PM

damn that's wide

Mace · 01-31-08, 11:44 PM

my 40 is 82"

I really like the width..

brokenparts · 01-31-08, 11:52 PM

should be liveable... I suppose if its too wide I could do some narrowing.

brokenparts · 02-01-08, 12:01 AM

picking these up...

LC_Hamma · 02-01-08, 08:49 AM

You know that sh!ts heavy right? 3/8" plate centers + 1/4" plate rock ring? I bet your at 60 lbs. a wheel right now. You gonna add a chamfer to those lug holes ain't ya?

Mace · 02-01-08, 10:14 AM

they are HEAVY..

15" steel rims with 39.5" Iroks = 80 ish lbs each
Recentered hummer rims with 39.5" Iroks = 135 lbs each...

Then fill the fronts with water... 330 lbs each

brokenparts · 02-01-08, 10:26 AM

well, I'm gettin a good deal on them and I'm trying my best to collect buggy parts on a budget so I'm less likely to say screw it and start cutting on the 60... at least the weight will be on the bottom side right?

42s are the plan.

brokenparts · 02-01-08, 10:33 AM

not to hi-jack my own thread but speaking of water in the tires....

Do you think there is any advantage of putting water in my front tires at Moab... I bought one of those snazzy water fill tire thing-a-bobs but have been reluctant to fill them for the trails around here but since I'm trailering my 60 to Moab I thought it might be worth it? Or am I asking too much of my 30 splines with 39.5s?

Mace · 02-01-08, 11:17 AM

no reason with stock cruiser knuckles...

Moab has excellent traction anyway..

brokenparts · 02-01-08, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mace

no reason with stock cruiser knuckles...

Moab has excellent traction anyway..

Kinda what I figured... Man I cant wait to utilize my 1 ton stuff.

lowtideride · 02-01-08, 11:47 AM

So is the one ton stuff going under your 60 or is this stuff for the buggy. Either way its cool

LC_Hamma · 02-01-08, 11:51 AM

Then fill the fronts with water... 330 lbs each

Dam, I wouldn't try that unless equipped w/ Bobby's 60 birfs & treated R & P. Carrier side gears would be next to :nuke:

Broken - you runnin stock Spicer 30 spline outers or cromo stuff?

brokenparts · 02-01-08, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowtideride

So is the one ton stuff going under your 60 or is this stuff for the buggy. Either way its cool

We'll see after Cruise Moab.... I plan on wheelin the 60 as is for the event. If the 30spline longs and everything else seem to hold up then I will probably leave it alone. If I get into alot of body damage and/or start breaking drivetrain stuff... my 60 might turn truggy.

I'm really really really tryin to keepin my 60 as it sits now and just collecting buggy parts over the next year for a true hardcore wheeler. I'm soooo tempted to just throw the 1ton stuff under there, sell the old stuff(axles, toybox, etc) and order up an atlas, and get to cuttin but I'd really hate to do that to her right now....

brokenparts · 02-01-08, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LC_Hamma

Then fill the fronts with water... 330 lbs each

Dam, I wouldn't try that unless equipped w/ Bobby's 60 birfs & treated R & P. Carrier side gears would be next to :nuke:

Broken - you runnin stock Spicer 30 spline outers or cromo stuff?

Right now I'm running the stock LC axles with Bobby long 30 spline with the 39.5s. I've been out quite a bit since I went to the 39.5s and so far so good. Moab should be a good test for the LC junk.

I really really think I am pushing my luck running a tbi 350, th350, 4 to 1 toybox to split case, and 39.5s with a mild to heavy foot (not to mention my 60 weighs 5400lbs.) but so far I've had good luck.

Tapage · 02-01-08, 05:54 PM

Go 1ton stuff under your 60 series ..

Mace · 02-01-08, 07:54 PM

Buggy...

Buggy all the way..

brokenparts · 02-02-08, 12:06 AM

geez, you guys are a lot of help.

boots4 · 02-04-08, 09:20 AM

Build a buggy and keep your 60 for wet days and snow runs. Then you can tow your buggy with your 60 and be set for either environment.

01-31-08, 10:56 PM	#1
brokenparts IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hillsboro, OR TLCA# 16127 Posts: 2,467	h1 back spacing I found a deal on some recentered h1 rims. They have been back spaced by copperhead fab 3.75. I'm planning on running my d60 and 14 bolt at full width. Good idea or ?

01-31-08, 11:11 PM	#2
LC_Hamma The Anti-Leafer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dallas, Georgia TLCA# 3343 Posts: 1,781	Since you're runnin 16.5's, caliper clearance won't be a problem, even w/ disk on the rear.... Run IT __________________ '72 FJ55 http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj55-iron-pig-preservation-society/76835-pig-chebby-avalanche-trim-%3D.html '73 FJ40 http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q...&addtype=local '78 FJ40 - future crawler in pieces '93 Ram W350 5 spd. SRW CTD '99 Ram 3500 4X4 5 spd. DRW CTD '74 BMW 3.0CS future project

01-31-08, 11:35 PM	#4
Mace what he said Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 11,207	~ 86" wide... Or so.. Make the trailer fenders drive over My H1 rims are about 5.5" BS... __________________ I am kinda gay....... My Myspace http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=75712409 "Mary Poppins: In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun and - SNAP - the job's a game."

01-31-08, 11:44 PM	#6
Mace what he said Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 11,207	my 40 is 82" I really like the width.. __________________ I am kinda gay....... My Myspace http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=75712409 "Mary Poppins: In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun and - SNAP - the job's a game."

02-01-08, 12:01 AM	#8
brokenparts IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hillsboro, OR TLCA# 16127 Posts: 2,467	picking these up... __________________ "Just bump it" I am offended by reality all the time. http://www.cascadecruisers.com/ http://www.myspace.com/zachsu ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/198064-rotw-brokenparts-fj-60-a.html

01-31-08, 11:16 PM	#3
brokenparts IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hillsboro, OR TLCA# 16127 Posts: 2,467	that's the info i was looking for... Thanks. Any idea of what approx width I'd be at running 14" wide tires ( iroks).

01-31-08, 11:37 PM	#5
brokenparts IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hillsboro, OR TLCA# 16127 Posts: 2,467	damn that's wide

01-31-08, 11:52 PM	#7
brokenparts IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hillsboro, OR TLCA# 16127 Posts: 2,467	should be liveable... I suppose if its too wide I could do some narrowing.

02-01-08, 08:49 AM	#9
LC_Hamma The Anti-Leafer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dallas, Georgia TLCA# 3343 Posts: 1,781	You know that sh!ts heavy right? 3/8" plate centers + 1/4" plate rock ring? I bet your at 60 lbs. a wheel right now. You gonna add a chamfer to those lug holes ain't ya? __________________ '72 FJ55 http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=76835 '73 FJ40 http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q...&addtype=local '78 FJ40 - future crawler in pieces '93 Ram W350 5 spd. SRW CTD '99 Ram 3500 4X4 5 spd. DRW CTD '74 BMW 3.0CS future project

02-01-08, 10:14 AM	#10
Mace what he said Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 11,207	they are HEAVY.. 15" steel rims with 39.5" Iroks = 80 ish lbs each Recentered hummer rims with 39.5" Iroks = 135 lbs each... Then fill the fronts with water... 330 lbs each __________________ I am kinda gay....... My Myspace http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=75712409 "Mary Poppins: In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun and - SNAP - the job's a game."

02-01-08, 10:26 AM	#11
brokenparts IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hillsboro, OR TLCA# 16127 Posts: 2,467	well, I'm gettin a good deal on them and I'm trying my best to collect buggy parts on a budget so I'm less likely to say screw it and start cutting on the 60... at least the weight will be on the bottom side right? 42s are the plan. __________________ "Just bump it" I am offended by reality all the time. http://www.cascadecruisers.com/ http://www.myspace.com/zachsu ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/198064-rotw-brokenparts-fj-60-a.html

02-01-08, 10:33 AM	#12
brokenparts IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hillsboro, OR TLCA# 16127 Posts: 2,467	not to hi-jack my own thread but speaking of water in the tires.... Do you think there is any advantage of putting water in my front tires at Moab... I bought one of those snazzy water fill tire thing-a-bobs but have been reluctant to fill them for the trails around here but since I'm trailering my 60 to Moab I thought it might be worth it? Or am I asking too much of my 30 splines with 39.5s? __________________ "Just bump it" I am offended by reality all the time. http://www.cascadecruisers.com/ http://www.myspace.com/zachsu ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/198064-rotw-brokenparts-fj-60-a.html

02-01-08, 11:17 AM	#13
Mace what he said Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 11,207	no reason with stock cruiser knuckles... Moab has excellent traction anyway.. __________________ I am kinda gay....... My Myspace http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=75712409 "Mary Poppins: In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun and - SNAP - the job's a game."

02-01-08, 11:47 AM	#15
lowtideride Ride On... Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Florida TLCA# 14891 Posts: 7,022	So is the one ton stuff going under your 60 or is this stuff for the buggy. Either way its cool __________________ www.NFCruiserheads.org 1983 SR5 Hilux... has had no peers for 50 years...

02-01-08, 11:51 AM	#16
LC_Hamma The Anti-Leafer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dallas, Georgia TLCA# 3343 Posts: 1,781	Then fill the fronts with water... 330 lbs each Dam, I wouldn't try that unless equipped w/ Bobby's 60 birfs & treated R & P. Carrier side gears would be next to :nuke: Broken - you runnin stock Spicer 30 spline outers or cromo stuff? __________________ '72 FJ55 http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=76835 '73 FJ40 http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q...&addtype=local '78 FJ40 - future crawler in pieces '93 Ram W350 5 spd. SRW CTD '99 Ram 3500 4X4 5 spd. DRW CTD '74 BMW 3.0CS future project

02-01-08, 07:54 PM	#20
Mace what he said Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 11,207	Buggy... Buggy all the way.. __________________ I am kinda gay....... My Myspace http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=75712409 "Mary Poppins: In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun and - SNAP - the job's a game."

02-02-08, 12:06 AM	#21
brokenparts IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hillsboro, OR TLCA# 16127 Posts: 2,467	geez, you guys are a lot of help. __________________ "Just bump it" I am offended by reality all the time. http://www.cascadecruisers.com/ http://www.myspace.com/zachsu ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/198064-rotw-brokenparts-fj-60-a.html

02-04-08, 09:20 AM	#22
boots4 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Portland OR Posts: 722	Build a buggy and keep your 60 for wet days and snow runs. Then you can tow your buggy with your 60 and be set for either environment. __________________ 85 FJ60, testing, Cummins 4BTA, manual 4L80E, 203 to splitcase doubler, SOA, 38s, some other stuff. build-up: Family Haulin' FJ60

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