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Old 04-02-08, 08:30 AM   #31
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looking good. hope you make it in time for moab. if so, it should be a banner pig year.


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Old 04-02-08, 09:13 AM   #32
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Awesome Ben. Wish I was going to Moab


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Old 04-02-08, 12:44 PM   #33
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Its Getting there, we busted some stuff out this weekend, and as long as it keeps going good, everything will be done!

Engine is still at the machine shop with less than a month to go


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Looks good. I have one question though, are you going to brace the frame mount for the track bar to the other frame rail? It looks like a long lever to twist the frame.


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Old 04-02-08, 01:59 PM   #35
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We already looked into that, the track bar mounts to the outside/bottom of the frame and right on the other side of the frame is a cross member that runs to the other frame rail.. i think it will be fine!


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Old 04-03-08, 06:38 AM   #36
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she was was my first car. now she is finally coming back to life.
I like the idea of 55 build a lot! I want to do one with a 3.4L and FJ80 axles, but. . . .

That rear suspension will not hold

The roll center is wayyyy to low with the panhard bar mount low on the axle like that and will body roll from hell espically with the springs inboarded too, the one link brackets on the axle will get ripped off or twisted and the frame mount on the one link will NOT hold.


U-bolts dont get in the way that much and they will add a lot more "clamping" strength to the axle mounts and take some stress of the welds on the spring perch. Its quality fab work, but that one link will put a hell of a lot of stress on those mounts.

What tubing is that on the top mount 1 1/2? 1 3/4 x .120? Its not THAT hard to bend when you talk about suspension componets

What size heim is that? Is it a good one or a McMaster Carr special? Sooooooo much stress on that point

Broken link suspension SUCKS DONKEY BALLS Its sucks for you and all of your buddies. Its a good idea but WHERES THE BEEF



On the other hand, at least you wont be bending expensive ass coilovers or airshocks when it breaks

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Nice Build!

Nice rig! I really like that rear bumper design.Looks great.





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Old 04-03-08, 02:45 PM   #38
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I like the idea of 55 build a lot! I want to do one with a 3.4L and FJ80 axles, but. . . .

That rear suspension will not hold

Dam Office Chair Fabricators

Thanks for the Comments, I agree with you on a couple of things,

One being the tubing at the one link Cross member mount, We are going to add some gusseting!

The other is the axle tube mount on the one link.. Ive seen these break there on leaf springs that used Plates and bolts vs. U-bolts. we will add some material there i think

That one link is the Largest joint i have ever seen, i think it is a 1 1/4" or so, Regardless its Beefy Stuff!

The other aspects of the suspension should be fine, Personally im not a fan or one links and Radius Arms, but its Ben's Rig, and he will build it however he wants! his plan is to prove me wrong in moab

Ben has ben Building Rock Buggies for his full time job for the past few years, they build Rovers with the same Radius Arm and Suspension setups that ben is using.. They are Simple designs, that have Proven very effective, and even Got them 12th at king of the hammers, and i believe 3rd place in the First XRRA Event this season. All with a V6 engine.

and what fun is it if everyone builds their rig the same exact way..



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I just got so sick of dislocated suspension on my POS AND on nice rigs

Youve got to watch out for a-holes like me and do some preventive mantenance like "heres the upper link mount, yes it will get more gusseting"

Is this his truck? Its the only Rover I know of in KOH. He gets street cred' for driving it
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heim joint failure .. ?


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Old 04-04-08, 02:57 PM   #41
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No, its not the yellow one, (they build that one too), but its the Red one "Rock Ware".. i cant seem to find any photos of it

The RockWare Rig is not "his rig", Ben just works for them, and helps as a chase/Pit Crew at races, he has build most every piece of the pig over the past couple of months on weekends on a Limited Budget. Ben has Built, and Races a Truck in the Colorado Hill Climb association, so although he is young he has alot of experience building and driving..

Yes, Linked Suspensions Suck when the break! we saw a retired comp buggy Break Everything on hes rear axle just like the photo above (3-link, upper link mount broke) on the Exit on the Patriot Trail, It took a lot or ratchet straps and thinking to get him off the trail. the next rig was a Yota on 37's and leaf springs, and he walked right up the same line, did not slip a tire!! This is one of the Reasons i have Kept Leafs on My Rig

and remember the is a Friendly Gesture..

BTW i am sitting in an office chair while i Spew my Web wheeler opinion all over the place


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Old 04-07-08, 03:02 PM   #42
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Cage is almost done. Motor is back from the machine shop, Justin Assembled it and we Dropped the driveline back in it, Made some motor mounts, and did some Extra Plating to some of the areas that may have been week..

the front suspension needs lower shock tabs, and a Panhard Bar to be complete, then the majority of the Fab work is done, and we can focus on getting all the wires and bolts back in the right place.

no time for photos,

Oh, and i got some Time on Rusty Mustard, cage is almost done.


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and did some Extra Plating to some of the areas that may have been week..

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I would plate the areas that are WEAK too

I passed up on a 55 in GA on ebay this week When does that stimulus package check come in
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heim joint failure .. ?
Joint, link, mount, jam nut??? I dunno But it motovates me to stay leaf-strong
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I really like that rear bumper design.
Too bad they didn't build a couple, I know at least one local that would have bought one.

Looking good Ben!


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We could always make some more of those bumpers!

Most of the Fab work is done, Drive line is out for final assembly. Its late im going to bed


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looking great x4 on the rear bumper design; any interest in fabbing more?

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We could always make some more of those bumpers!
Yes, you could and people would buy them. So give a price and availability date Trevor.


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you like da juice?

i will definately make some more rear bumpers if ya'll who are interested start sending me some money! cause i am poor as hell!
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Surprise, surprise but who isn't. Post some details like prices.


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we will get some pricing together after moab!

the pig is coming together! Front Bumper is done, and She is Ready to fire up and do some testing!!


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Old 04-23-08, 12:55 PM   #52
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is piggie gonna make moab?

we really need a pigtastic cm08.


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soo close I can taste it.

we got the engine fired up and broke in. and finished up the front armor.
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