2UZ Swap onto HZJ-80

Tapage · 01-17-08, 04:20 PM

I have a buddy here that it's the most hard core wheeler that I ever meet .. right now he's wheel pretty hard he's HZJ-80 with 39.5" Iroks, 5.29" on axles, lockers etc ..

It's the white one ..

He want a 2UZ inside .. something injected, or could be a LS1 .. ?

I thought we need to keep ( for axles reliability ) under 450 HP and torque .. the idea it's in first place keep it as Toyota as posible ( the reason for the 2UZ engine ) means if we take the V8 2UZ engine route, gonna need a stand alone harnes to run the less sensors as posible ..

If we take the LS1 route, one adapter to the H150 tranny and same way run less sensors as posible ..

Coments are very apreciated ..

brayn · 01-18-08, 01:36 PM

I would recomend a 1uz.It is a more popular engine(here),and a lot lighter as well!

tntoyota · 01-18-08, 02:21 PM

2jz is DEstroked 1fz...?

http://forum.ih8mud.com/hardcore-cor...aspirated.html

ats4x4dotcom · 01-18-08, 04:28 PM

under 450 hp will certainly help, turbo of a 1fz-fe might be easiest, and cheapest, especially of after 95 engine used.

400hp from this easily.

otherwise I would go the gen engine, more hp more reliably than the toyota v8.

Tapage · 01-18-08, 05:58 PM

V8 it's the way .. so all are agre to run a chevy engine, but need to be injected .. don't wanna spend time dealing with carbs ..

recomendations ?

sixty · 01-18-08, 06:39 PM

450hp is alot of power for any naturally aspirated EFI engine. If he has the cash, a Ramjet 350 would probably be his best bet & probably the easiest to install. If thats a little too much $$ he could get a chevy 6.0 LS1 & be into for probably $2500, for around 300hp. LT1's are decent but the 6.0 is a better choice in my opinion.

MutleyFJ62 · 01-20-08, 12:27 AM

Keep the blood line pure, a toyota in a toyota, a much nicer engine then an LS1, certainly overhead cams etc and the toyota build quality would be more then enough to sway me towards the 2UZ conversion.

Dusty · 01-20-08, 12:36 AM

many here would give their left nut for that diesel motor considered for swapage. How much extra power can be modded out of the diesel?

Radd Cruisers · 01-20-08, 01:29 PM

pre cupped engine, not safe to go over board.

He were to drop in a 1hd-ft and could prolly safely pull almost 260Hp and over 500 foot pounds of torque.

That being said and me being a hudge diesel fan, nothing beats the sound a V8 with HP, power to weight is pretty darn impressive. Especially for slinging mud.

Waggoner5 · 01-20-08, 01:33 PM

2UZ. The wiring harness can be made fairly easily. It is not a big problem to integrate that harness into the 80 series harness. The are no more sensors on the 2UZ than on an LS1. The adapters may be a different story. You could use the whole drivetrain out of a newer Cruiser but then you would have an auto. That would be my route, but some still like the manual shift. I have seen both and I like the all Toyota idea best.

Tapage · 01-21-08, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixty

450hp is alot of power for any naturally aspirated EFI engine. If he has the cash, a Ramjet 350 would probably be his best bet & probably the easiest to install. If thats a little too much $$ he could get a chevy 6.0 LS1 & be into for probably $2500, for around 300hp. LT1's are decent but the 6.0 is a better choice in my opinion.

Sixty ... In your opinion which could be the best engine to adapt to a Toy drive train like that ( we are talking ) with 5K ..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radd Cruisers

pre cupped engine, not safe to go over board.

In a IDI engine you need to take more care on the precups .. I thought with the right turbo and water/intercooler we can reach the 200 HP line .. but it's hard and expensive .. looks crazy but much more simple doing a V8 conversion to get as stock more HP than you can get with a turboed and higly modified 1HZ ..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusty

many here would give their left nut for that diesel motor considered for swapage. How much extra power can be modded out of the diesel?

It depends on diesel and how much reliability, long lastin engine you expect .. coz centanly with more boots on the engine more wear ..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waggoner5

You could use the whole drivetrain out of a newer Cruiser but then you would have an auto. That would be my route, but some still like the manual shift. I have seen both and I like the all Toyota idea best.

In OZ the 105 series come with the 2UZ engine and manual trannys H151 ..

PKP80 · 01-26-08, 05:23 AM

I couldn't find that kind of jungle mudd down here in So Cal if I wanted to. nice rigs and my vote is for the 2UZ

Tapage · 01-26-08, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PKP80

I couldn't find that kind of jungle mudd down here in So Cal if I wanted to. nice rigs and my vote is for the 2UZ

Little update for this thread .. I already buy the engine, from a 2003 Toyota Tundra and go with cams, heads, rods and few more thing to get it up to 250 rwhp . !

It will take time to be done .. I hope some pics of the engine and the upgrade process

PKP80 · 01-26-08, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tapage

Little update for this thread .. I already buy the engine, from a 2003 Toyota Tundra and go with cams, heads, rods and few more thing to get it up to 250 rwhp . !

It will take time to be done .. I hope some pics of the engine and the upgrade process

Look forward to it. I'm a fan of non US builds.

Tapage · 01-31-08, 02:02 PM

Little update ..

Get the engine ..

from a tundra with 50k miles ..

Complete with MAF ( not showed in the pic ) alternator, AC compresor and harness ..

Now go to the new heads valvles and other stuff process ..

chibo · 02-04-08, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tntoyota

2jz is DEstroked 1fz...?

http://forum.ih8mud.com/hardcore-cor...aspirated.html

No it's not, and the stroker 2JZs do not use the 1FZ crank. The FZ crank is 800mm long and weighs in at a nice 81.5lb. As far as I know the actual block of the 2JZ falls an inch or two shorter than the length of the FZ crank.
It does share a fair amount in design with the 1JZ and 2JZ, of course.

Toy Teacher · 02-04-08, 05:58 PM

I have been "Slowly" working on my 1962 FJ40 engine swap using a
1UZ or 2UZ....presently I have a 1UZ Toyota marine engine just setting in it doing measurements and was going to use a manual belhousing to use a Toyota manual trans but I have changed my mind...

I picked up a complete 4.7 drivetrain with harness and ECM that I'm
going to use instead.. There are a couple of places that make manual belhousings for the Toyota V8's..
www.dellowauto.com.au
www.rodshop.com.au

Tapage · 02-06-08, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Teacher

There are a couple of places that make manual belhousings for the Toyota V8's..
www.dellowauto.com.au
www.rodshop.com.au

great info dude .. thanks for share !

Tapage · 10-29-08, 08:39 PM

this it's a slow built .. so be patiend with the upgrades ..

Today I got the gas pedal, with the under dash harness, starter cilinder and key, along with the ECU meanwhile here is some new stuff .. 2UZ mathed to H150 tranny .. HF1A t-case ..

almost in ..

Z()LTAN · 11-01-08, 05:59 PM

uuber power!

i dont know much about these engines...

what are they and how do they perform?

Rix86 · 11-03-08, 07:56 PM

DOHC 32 valve v8, 4.7 liters.
245 HP
340 ft/lbs
varies a little with year and ecu/original model
later VVT engines were 282 hp and a little more torque I think.

Dusty · 11-04-08, 04:11 PM

I thought it was 305 ft/lb torque

Tapage · 11-06-08, 05:29 PM

This engine have a little head and valvles job done .. ported and polished too .. so we spect little more powa

I will report back with updates ..

lloyd_lluvbullet · 11-21-08, 09:16 PM

hey Tapage,

which bellhousing should i use to match a H151F to my 1UZ-FE powered HZJ79 series Land cruiser pick-up? since your installing a 2UZ-FE into that 80 with a manual transmission...then you could probably tell me what i need similarly on a 1UZ.

Thanks for any help advise.

Tapage · 11-23-08, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lloyd_lluvbullet

hey Tapage,

which bellhousing should i use to match a H151F to my 1UZ-FE powered HZJ79 series Land cruiser pick-up? since your installing a 2UZ-FE into that 80 with a manual transmission...then you could probably tell me what i need similarly on a 1UZ.

Thanks for any help advise.

we are using the H150 bellhousing with an adapter flange .. but there is a factory Toyota bellhousing that it's used in australia in the 100 series and 105 series that come factory with the 2UZ engine and manual tranny ..

Thought this tranny maybe it's the R151 or H151 .. not sure.

Actually I foud 2 parts in the EPC for the VX GCC LHD 2UZFE EFI MTM 5F LUB

31111‑60310 UZJ100..5F housing clutch

31011‑60010 UZJ100..5F HOUSING SUB-ASSY, CLUTCH, FRONT

Those are for the H151

lloyd_lluvbullet · 11-23-08, 04:40 AM

uh...thought so..you mean there's a 2UZ-FE bellhousing mated to a H151F on a UZJ105 particularly in australia and possibly the middle eastern markets. I also heard that the flywheel and clutch lining are those of the 1HD-T & 1HD-FT-H151F combo.

i'll be checking on the bellhousing and related parts before i go purchase a H151F.

thanks so much Tapage.

01-18-08, 01:36 PM	#2
brayn IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: S26 34.763 E18 08.057 Posts: 79	I would recomend a 1uz.It is a more popular engine(here),and a lot lighter as well! __________________ Member of http://www.landcruiserclub.co.za

01-18-08, 04:28 PM	#4
ats4x4dotcom what the hell happened? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Drysdale Vic Aus Posts: 900	under 450 hp will certainly help, turbo of a 1fz-fe might be easiest, and cheapest, especially of after 95 engine used. 400hp from this easily. otherwise I would go the gen engine, more hp more reliably than the toyota v8. __________________ Darren McRae 95 80 series 1FZ-FE with bits to come http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/207630-project-rooby-80-all-rounder-build.html

01-20-08, 12:27 AM	#7
MutleyFJ62 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Gold Coast, QLD, Australia Posts: 178	Keep the blood line pure, a toyota in a toyota, a much nicer engine then an LS1, certainly overhead cams etc and the toyota build quality would be more then enough to sway me towards the 2UZ conversion. __________________ Now an employee of your friendly TJM accessory shop www.tjm.com.au

01-20-08, 12:36 AM	#8
Dusty IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,577	many here would give their left nut for that diesel motor considered for swapage. How much extra power can be modded out of the diesel? __________________ 97lx450 4" slee/j's, sliders, bumpers, 3" exhaust, custom turbo, HG pm/Valve job/seals, sweet custom skid plate, Sleeoffroad parts, Buys oe parts from Cruiser Dan used to have 37" swampers.. 1 tons and 42's pending..... Budget Blown my build http://forum.ih8mud.com/hardcore-cor...j80-build.html 98 100 series. rear locker. 2008 6.7L dodge 2500 quad cab

01-20-08, 01:29 PM	#9
Radd Cruisers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada Posts: 3,831	pre cupped engine, not safe to go over board. He were to drop in a 1hd-ft and could prolly safely pull almost 260Hp and over 500 foot pounds of torque. That being said and me being a hudge diesel fan, nothing beats the sound a V8 with HP, power to weight is pretty darn impressive. Especially for slinging mud. __________________ Come and visit us in Duncan, BC www.raddcruisers.ca --> 60 Series Cable Lockers available - 4.11s or 3.70s - handles and cables included --> 12HT & H55F combos available - complete & running --> in stock and ready to go.

01-18-08, 02:21 PM	#3
tntoyota Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nashville TN...But I miss Richlands NC Posts: 1,195	2jz is DEstroked 1fz...? http://forum.ih8mud.com/hardcore-cor...aspirated.html

01-18-08, 06:39 PM	#6
sixty IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Back in Vegas Posts: 590	450hp is alot of power for any naturally aspirated EFI engine. If he has the cash, a Ramjet 350 would probably be his best bet & probably the easiest to install. If thats a little too much $$ he could get a chevy 6.0 LS1 & be into for probably $2500, for around 300hp. LT1's are decent but the 6.0 is a better choice in my opinion.

01-20-08, 01:33 PM	#10
Waggoner5 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,294	2UZ. The wiring harness can be made fairly easily. It is not a big problem to integrate that harness into the 80 series harness. The are no more sensors on the 2UZ than on an LS1. The adapters may be a different story. You could use the whole drivetrain out of a newer Cruiser but then you would have an auto. That would be my route, but some still like the manual shift. I have seen both and I like the all Toyota idea best. __________________ Gary Waggoner Golden, Co 1989 FJ62 SOA, 502 Mercruiser, ARBs Sold 1987 HJ61 SOA, Cable Locks, 39k miles Sold 1983 FJ40 sitting broke since 89 1965 FZJ45 Pickup on Slee 80 chassis 2003 Tacoma, ARB, OME, SC, TRD Sold 2007 100 series, ARB, OME, TLCA 10689 LSLC 2000 Rising Sun 2007 www.powerplayracing.net

01-26-08, 05:23 AM	#12
PKP80 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA TLCA# 14900 Posts: 1,777	I couldn't find that kind of jungle mudd down here in So Cal if I wanted to. nice rigs and my vote is for the 2UZ __________________ Sam Shaya 96' FZJ80 convertable 4x4 Labs Rear end, Bengels Offroad front bumper, roll cage, etc. other goodies, but you get the idea. Call Sign KI6KNB "Team Pull-OUT" Phi Kappa Psi

02-04-08, 05:58 PM	#17
Toy Teacher IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Blue Ash Ohio Posts: 103	I have been "Slowly" working on my 1962 FJ40 engine swap using a 1UZ or 2UZ....presently I have a 1UZ Toyota marine engine just setting in it doing measurements and was going to use a manual belhousing to use a Toyota manual trans but I have changed my mind... I picked up a complete 4.7 drivetrain with harness and ECM that I'm going to use instead.. There are a couple of places that make manual belhousings for the Toyota V8's.. www.dellowauto.com.au www.rodshop.com.au Attached Images

11-01-08, 05:59 PM	#20
Z()LTAN IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 250	uuber power! i dont know much about these engines... what are they and how do they perform? __________________ Lock, Stomp and Steer, No Fear

11-03-08, 07:56 PM	#21
Rix86 Incredibly random Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tacoma Posts: 142 Blog Entries: 1	DOHC 32 valve v8, 4.7 liters. 245 HP 340 ft/lbs varies a little with year and ecu/original model later VVT engines were 282 hp and a little more torque I think. __________________

11-04-08, 04:11 PM	#22
Dusty IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,577	I thought it was 305 ft/lb torque __________________ 97lx450 4" slee/j's, sliders, bumpers, 3" exhaust, custom turbo, HG pm/Valve job/seals, sweet custom skid plate, Sleeoffroad parts, Buys oe parts from Cruiser Dan used to have 37" swampers.. 1 tons and 42's pending..... Budget Blown my build http://forum.ih8mud.com/hardcore-cor...j80-build.html 98 100 series. rear locker. 2008 6.7L dodge 2500 quad cab

11-21-08, 09:16 PM	#24
lloyd_lluvbullet IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Borneo TLCA# 8998 Posts: 80	hey Tapage, which bellhousing should i use to match a H151F to my 1UZ-FE powered HZJ79 series Land cruiser pick-up? since your installing a 2UZ-FE into that 80 with a manual transmission...then you could probably tell me what i need similarly on a 1UZ. Thanks for any help advise.

11-23-08, 04:40 AM	#26
lloyd_lluvbullet IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Borneo TLCA# 8998 Posts: 80	uh...thought so..you mean there's a 2UZ-FE bellhousing mated to a H151F on a UZJ105 particularly in australia and possibly the middle eastern markets. I also heard that the flywheel and clutch lining are those of the 1HD-T & 1HD-FT-H151F combo. i'll be checking on the bellhousing and related parts before i go purchase a H151F. thanks so much Tapage.