Help with 1 ton axle choice for fzj80 build - Page 5

Dusty · 01-20-08, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arya Ebrahimi

Why does running radius arms require that you point the pinion at the T-case?

Also, have you considered running a triangulated upper link like this /| so that you can keep your OE gas tank location and still eliminate the track bar?

I like what you're doing, although I have my doubts as to whether or not the truck will stay in the full-body configuration for long after these swaps.

I hadn't thought of that /l sort of upper. But if I do that the gas tank is still in the way so I cant run a crossmemeber to triangulate the lowers like this \/. I dont think one of these /| is tough enough to support my truck alone. What about this on bottom /\ and this \| on top.

I thought you should point the pinion with a radius cause if the pinion is level it will point down when the pumpkin is stuffed. But of course the front oe 80 series front has a radius and doesn't do that

Arya Ebrahimi · 01-21-08, 12:15 AM

Run your lowers parrallel and your upper like /| and it will be fine. It's been done many times before.

I think you need to do some more research on rear 3/4 links on Pirate and you will see the light

You might also consider swapping the orientation of the rear trackbar so that the axle end is on the passenger side like the front. I seem to recall some discussion with regards to the front and rear trackbars being positioned in the same orientation, I just can't remember if it's a good thing or a bad thing. I'm pretty sure it would be fine though, and then your panhard and upper link mount would be in the same place.

I just don't like radius arms in the rear, I've heard too many bad things about what they will do to your handleing and trail manners to even consider them. I think I would run leaf springs *gasp* before I did rear radius arms.

Dusty · 01-21-08, 09:18 AM

Please show me where this /l has been done many times before.

radius rear
front and rear radius arm ????? - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board
however I would run the radius on bothe sides with a joint at the Y on the radius link (like a tj front)

I have researched the radius arm rear thing on pirate to a great extent. Ford guys run a radius arm in the rear but few others. Not much out there. I would expect that on road manners with a rear trackbar would be better than all but the best triangulated 4link/3 links

Arya Ebrahimi · 01-21-08, 05:04 PM

I'm sorry if I sounded like I was attacking/criticizing your plans, I was just trying to provide constructive input.

I have see that \| on several trucks(commonly referred to as a Y-link), but the only truck I have been able to find a pic/thread of so far is here: Fixing my broken ass truck (Frame cutting involved) - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board

That truck was originally built by Rob Park aka "Bender" and has been put through a helluva lot. This style link seems to be more common in mini-trucks because they have similar gas tank issues and have been in the "hardcore" realm a lot longer than 80's.

I will continue looking to see what else I can come up with for you.

Ary

Arya Ebrahimi · 01-21-08, 05:17 PM

Here's another good link:

3link with stock gas tank - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board

Dusty · 01-21-08, 06:43 PM

ya think that /l upper link on benders truck would hold with 6000+ lbs of heavy assed 80 series?

Im only looking for 12-14" of beefy travel. The 42's will do the rest. radius arms run on a 40" arm should have minimum bind.? Looking more on pirate. But how about summit joints at the frame and at the Y (where upper and lower links seperate) and these

Poly Bushing with Billet Threaded Stud

or even better these
Jeep Large Super Ride Bushing Kit :: Bushings :: Suspension Joints :: Poly Performance Inc.

at the axle (upper and lower)

attached to these brackets
Flat bottom radius arm mounts

Arya Ebrahimi · 01-21-08, 10:19 PM

I think you'd be better off with the bushings at the frame end and the summit joint at the axle end. For joint selection I would just look at the myriad of "normal" wishbone links out there.

If you think about it, the joints at the frame on a wishbone don't have any "misalignment" through their travel, only rotation. The joint at the axle is where all the articulation occurs.

For your lowers, I'd run bushings at one end, flex joints at the other. There's been a variety of discussion on th matter, but I like flex joints at the frame end to keep them out of the mud/grime as much as possible.

Dusty, I will come right out and say I'm no expert. I just feel from my readings over the years that a wishbone setup will be better/have less chance of quirks than a 3-link with panhard.

You might post up your build plans on PBB and ask for input. I think that's the best way you can get the info you need.

Ary

concretejungle · 01-23-08, 06:06 PM

Dusty, i don't know if you need it or not, but i downloaded an excel spread sheet from extreme4x4 tv that is a link calculator. If you want it i can email it to you. Just PM me.

I have kept it around thinking that some day i may need it, but just haven't needed it yet.

Arya Ebrahimi · 01-23-08, 10:05 PM

Alex, it's probably the one that's all over PBB. Posted by a guy that goes by "triaged" on PBB.

locrwln1 · 01-23-08, 10:12 PM

Just something to think about as far as radius arms in the rear, Rubicon Express uses them for the JK lifts now. So maybe start looking for people or reviews of people are using the new RE lifts. The JK's have the same gas tank problem. So far everything I have seen/read has been good.

Jack

bustanutley · 01-23-08, 11:17 PM

i would not do radius arms in the rear, the only way they will work well in a climbing situation is if the frame attachment point is equal or lower than the axle tube height. I have seen one buggy that works well with radius arms all around and that is what they did. It is the rockware buggy that races in XRRA. The inherent binding eliminates the need for a sway bar which is cool.

Dusty · 01-23-08, 11:38 PM

thanks Ary

Quote:

Originally Posted by concretejungle

Dusty, i don't know if you need it or not, but i downloaded an excel spread sheet from extreme4x4 tv that is a link calculator. If you want it i can email it to you. Just PM me.

I have kept it around thinking that some day i may need it, but just haven't needed it yet.

Thanks friend but I'm not calculating anything. Im just going on the "if I can get it to fit" calculator

Quote:

Originally Posted by locrwln1

Just something to think about as far as radius arms in the rear, Rubicon Express uses them for the JK lifts now. So maybe start looking for people or reviews of people are using the new RE lifts. The JK's have the same gas tank problem. So far everything I have seen/read has been good.

Jack

I have searched the hell out of pirate and there is not much in the way of rear radius arms and certainly not rear radius arms with 2 y's (at bothe sides of the axle). That means they dont work or it hasn't been tried successfully. From what I have read the problem with unwristed radius arms is that they are too stiff. Perhaps if the axle joints are soft enough and the arms long enough the binding tendancies can be minimized. I think a foot of travel will be plenty. yesterday I baught 4 of these Jeep Large Super Ride Bushing Kit :: Bushings :: Suspension Joints :: Poly Performance Inc.

A few on pirate have spoken of their flexy nature. I also baught some 1 1/4 studs from balistic to weld to them for ease of adjustment and the potential to keep them untightened so they can twist. I will put these 4 rubber bushing things at the axle side of the radius and run the summit joint at the frame and at the base of the Y on each arm (I already baught 12 summit joints)

Part of me says run the oe suspension out back. if the radius fails I may do just that

Quote:

Originally Posted by bustanutley

i would not do radius arms in the rear, the only way they will work well in a climbing situation is if the frame attachment point is equal or lower than the axle tube height. I have seen one buggy that works well with radius arms all around and that is what they did. It is the rockware buggy that races in XRRA. The inherent binding eliminates the need for a sway bar which is cool.

I hope you are wrong

The last 2 nights I have neen tearing into the R&P and arb installs. I made a special stand. What a bitch. I'm a breath away from tossing both axles in the trailer and hauling them up to 4wheel parts to do the work for me.

alkaline747trio · 01-25-08, 07:15 AM

Why are you re-inventing the wheel anyways? What is wrong with the OE setup with custom beefier arms at the length you need them? I vote against the radius arms myself...I mean, aren't most hardcore 80 users looking to remove them from the front anyway?

Dusty · 01-25-08, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alkaline747trio

Why are you re-inventing the wheel anyways? What is wrong with the OE setup with custom beefier arms at the length you need them? I vote against the radius arms myself...I mean, aren't most hardcore 80 users looking to remove them from the front anyway?

Good point. The oe arms would work just fine. I don't like the short little upper arms although they work well. Mainly I just want to be different I guess.

locrwln1 · 01-26-08, 01:05 PM

Shhhh. Don't tell Range Rover that radius arms don't work in the rear.

I would probably try the stock setup, just beefier, first.

Jack

Dusty · 03-23-08, 12:45 AM

getting closer. axles being built by a local shop. They are also working on the truss for me.

built a 3" exhaust this past week. went over the frame intead of under. 3" fits rather easily for those considering this on their 80

Dusty · 03-23-08, 12:46 AM

Dusty · 03-23-08, 12:48 AM

mores

Dusty · 03-23-08, 12:53 AM

i didn't go over the rear crossmember like the oe does. The 3" barely fits here. instead I went just lateral to the pass side rear upper suspension arm hanger. but I wont be using it so I wraped aroung it heading back into the middle of the truck to avoid the rear shock.

I was able to stuff a piece of 26g 12"x 24" aluminum sheet abobe the 3" exhaust that goes over the frame. I bolted this in place with bolts already under the body

Dusty · 03-23-08, 12:56 AM

was a bit of work but worth it. Hopefully the turbo will give me a little more power with the bigger tube and run a little cooler. I welded the lm1 port for the wideband If I ever get around to dynoing her.

Dusty · 03-23-08, 01:02 AM

the 4340 35 spline yukon shafts got to my door the day after I placed the order. I have been waiting 2 months on superior or alloy shafts which are both still backordered at least a month. The yukons were not my first choice but randys ring and pinion sure offered a great service on this deal at a great price.

Note to all-NEVER BUY PARTS FROM 4 WHEEL PARTS. WHAT A JOKE. they sent me 3 wrong arbs. I had to finally tell them myself the correct part numbers.

Dusty · 03-23-08, 01:16 AM

I removed the steering box today and will attempt to port it myself tom. If I run into problems I will ship it to pse and have them do it

Hydraulic Assist Tech

I think I will use the 1.5x8" trailgear job as I can go to their warehouse in person to take stuff back.
Trail-Gear Inc > Ram Steering Kit

also considering this
Rock Logic 4x4 - Serving Your Real World 4x4 Needs - Rock crawling, custom fabrication, suspensions, axles, hydrolic assisst, custom roll cages and more

any other suggestions?

rondog · 03-23-08, 11:14 AM

nice work on that exhaust! I love those pre-made mandrel bends as well.Nice looking 80 too.

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Originally Posted by Dusty

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Mace · 03-23-08, 11:29 PM

Range rovers don't flex for crap unless they are heavily modded..

A true three link rear will perform much better than a Dual radius arm setup in the rear.

A. 2 Y links won't flex for crap without eating up whatever bushings you are using.

2. as the suspension lifts when climbing your AS will go to infinity.. And 2 things will most likely happe

01-21-08, 12:15 AM	#122
Arya Ebrahimi Something clever Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 2,412	Run your lowers parrallel and your upper like /\| and it will be fine. It's been done many times before. I think you need to do some more research on rear 3/4 links on Pirate and you will see the light You might also consider swapping the orientation of the rear trackbar so that the axle end is on the passenger side like the front. I seem to recall some discussion with regards to the front and rear trackbars being positioned in the same orientation, I just can't remember if it's a good thing or a bad thing. I'm pretty sure it would be fine though, and then your panhard and upper link mount would be in the same place. I just don't like radius arms in the rear, I've heard too many bad things about what they will do to your handleing and trail manners to even consider them. I think I would run leaf springs gasp before I did rear radius arms. __________________ HOKIES UNITED Arya Ebrahimi '94 FZJ80 200k miles, locked, 285 Revo's, ARB Bullbar, Hella 4000's, homemade drawers My mini-truck buildup thread...updated 9/10 Mini-truck's first trip!! With PICS! 11/10

01-21-08, 09:18 AM	#123
Dusty IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,386	Please show me where this /l has been done many times before. radius rear front and rear radius arm ????? - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board however I would run the radius on bothe sides with a joint at the Y on the radius link (like a tj front) I have researched the radius arm rear thing on pirate to a great extent. Ford guys run a radius arm in the rear but few others. Not much out there. I would expect that on road manners with a rear trackbar would be better than all but the best triangulated 4link/3 links __________________ 97lx450 4" slee/j's, sliders, bumpers, 3" exhaust, custom turbo, HG pm/Valve job/seals, sweet custom skid plate, Sleeoffroad parts, Buys oe parts from Cruiser Dan used to have 37" swampers.. 1 tons and 42's pending..... Budget Blown 98 100 series. rear locker. 2008 6.7L dodge 2500 quad cab Last edited by Dusty; 01-21-08 at 09:32 AM.

01-21-08, 05:04 PM	#124
Arya Ebrahimi Something clever Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 2,412	I'm sorry if I sounded like I was attacking/criticizing your plans, I was just trying to provide constructive input. I have see that \\| on several trucks(commonly referred to as a Y-link), but the only truck I have been able to find a pic/thread of so far is here: Fixing my broken ass truck (Frame cutting involved) - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board That truck was originally built by Rob Park aka "Bender" and has been put through a helluva lot. This style link seems to be more common in mini-trucks because they have similar gas tank issues and have been in the "hardcore" realm a lot longer than 80's. I will continue looking to see what else I can come up with for you. Ary __________________ HOKIES UNITED Arya Ebrahimi '94 FZJ80 200k miles, locked, 285 Revo's, ARB Bullbar, Hella 4000's, homemade drawers My mini-truck buildup thread...updated 9/10 Mini-truck's first trip!! With PICS! 11/10

01-21-08, 05:17 PM	#125
Arya Ebrahimi Something clever Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 2,412	Here's another good link: 3link with stock gas tank - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board __________________ HOKIES UNITED Arya Ebrahimi '94 FZJ80 200k miles, locked, 285 Revo's, ARB Bullbar, Hella 4000's, homemade drawers My mini-truck buildup thread...updated 9/10 Mini-truck's first trip!! With PICS! 11/10

01-21-08, 06:43 PM	#126
Dusty IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,386	ya think that /l upper link on benders truck would hold with 6000+ lbs of heavy assed 80 series? Im only looking for 12-14" of beefy travel. The 42's will do the rest. radius arms run on a 40" arm should have minimum bind.? Looking more on pirate. But how about summit joints at the frame and at the Y (where upper and lower links seperate) and these Poly Bushing with Billet Threaded Stud or even better these Jeep Large Super Ride Bushing Kit :: Bushings :: Suspension Joints :: Poly Performance Inc. at the axle (upper and lower) attached to these brackets Flat bottom radius arm mounts __________________ 97lx450 4" slee/j's, sliders, bumpers, 3" exhaust, custom turbo, HG pm/Valve job/seals, sweet custom skid plate, Sleeoffroad parts, Buys oe parts from Cruiser Dan used to have 37" swampers.. 1 tons and 42's pending..... Budget Blown 98 100 series. rear locker. 2008 6.7L dodge 2500 quad cab Last edited by Dusty; 01-22-08 at 12:04 PM.

01-21-08, 10:19 PM	#127
Arya Ebrahimi Something clever Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 2,412	I think you'd be better off with the bushings at the frame end and the summit joint at the axle end. For joint selection I would just look at the myriad of "normal" wishbone links out there. If you think about it, the joints at the frame on a wishbone don't have any "misalignment" through their travel, only rotation. The joint at the axle is where all the articulation occurs. For your lowers, I'd run bushings at one end, flex joints at the other. There's been a variety of discussion on th matter, but I like flex joints at the frame end to keep them out of the mud/grime as much as possible. Dusty, I will come right out and say I'm no expert. I just feel from my readings over the years that a wishbone setup will be better/have less chance of quirks than a 3-link with panhard. You might post up your build plans on PBB and ask for input. I think that's the best way you can get the info you need. Ary __________________ HOKIES UNITED Arya Ebrahimi '94 FZJ80 200k miles, locked, 285 Revo's, ARB Bullbar, Hella 4000's, homemade drawers My mini-truck buildup thread...updated 9/10 Mini-truck's first trip!! With PICS! 11/10

01-23-08, 06:06 PM	#128
concretejungle IH8MUD Tour Guide Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Cadillac TLCA# 14646 Posts: 5,742	Dusty, i don't know if you need it or not, but i downloaded an excel spread sheet from extreme4x4 tv that is a link calculator. If you want it i can email it to you. Just PM me. I have kept it around thinking that some day i may need it, but just haven't needed it yet. __________________ 95' FZJ80 OME med./J lift, ARB rack, ARB Bull Bar w/tmax 12,500, 315 Nitto, stainless brake lines, Center Diff Lock, Sliders, IPOR Skid, IPOR rear bumper, upgraded slee sticker, custom dents, more to come. . . Remember it's a gateway drug, so it will actually lead to "crystal meh".

01-23-08, 10:05 PM	#129
Arya Ebrahimi Something clever Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 2,412	Alex, it's probably the one that's all over PBB. Posted by a guy that goes by "triaged" on PBB. __________________ HOKIES UNITED Arya Ebrahimi '94 FZJ80 200k miles, locked, 285 Revo's, ARB Bullbar, Hella 4000's, homemade drawers My mini-truck buildup thread...updated 9/10 Mini-truck's first trip!! With PICS! 11/10

01-23-08, 10:12 PM	#130
locrwln1 Addicted to MUD Porn Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Reno, NV TLCA# 16879 Posts: 1,258	Just something to think about as far as radius arms in the rear, Rubicon Express uses them for the JK lifts now. So maybe start looking for people or reviews of people are using the new RE lifts. The JK's have the same gas tank problem. So far everything I have seen/read has been good. Jack __________________ KE7NCK 1996 FZJ 80 (explorer) 2002 F350, PSD, 6SPD,4X4,CC, LWB (hauler) 1995 Mazda MX-6 (speedster)

01-23-08, 11:17 PM	#131
bustanutley IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: CrAwLoRaDo Posts: 1,518	i would not do radius arms in the rear, the only way they will work well in a climbing situation is if the frame attachment point is equal or lower than the axle tube height. I have seen one buggy that works well with radius arms all around and that is what they did. It is the rockware buggy that races in XRRA. The inherent binding eliminates the need for a sway bar which is cool. __________________ FJ-40 on FO-DEEs just a lil guy HOMEGROWN

01-25-08, 07:15 AM	#133
alkaline747trio Young and Dumb apparently Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Blacksburg VA or Albemarle NC Posts: 3,704	Why are you re-inventing the wheel anyways? What is wrong with the OE setup with custom beefier arms at the length you need them? I vote against the radius arms myself...I mean, aren't most hardcore 80 users looking to remove them from the front anyway? __________________ '92 - 3FE POWER'D! -- Slee 6"/OME 863J, Pro-Comp 14" ES3000/N74L, Gen. 2 Slee Front Control Arms, T-G Sliders, Ext. Diff. Breathers, Slee SS Brake Lines, 5.29s, Aussie Locker'd rear, 35" TrXus STS Street/38.5x11 Boggers Trail, 180k. '85 Honda Accord - 55MPG!!! -- No air filter, Custom Burple (blue and purple) Paint. Upstate Cruisers

01-26-08, 01:05 PM	#135
locrwln1 Addicted to MUD Porn Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Reno, NV TLCA# 16879 Posts: 1,258	Shhhh. Don't tell Range Rover that radius arms don't work in the rear. I would probably try the stock setup, just beefier, first. Jack __________________ KE7NCK 1996 FZJ 80 (explorer) 2002 F350, PSD, 6SPD,4X4,CC, LWB (hauler) 1995 Mazda MX-6 (speedster)

03-23-08, 12:45 AM	#136
Dusty IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,386	getting closer. axles being built by a local shop. They are also working on the truss for me. built a 3" exhaust this past week. went over the frame intead of under. 3" fits rather easily for those considering this on their 80 Attached Images __________________ 97lx450 4" slee/j's, sliders, bumpers, 3" exhaust, custom turbo, HG pm/Valve job/seals, sweet custom skid plate, Sleeoffroad parts, Buys oe parts from Cruiser Dan used to have 37" swampers.. 1 tons and 42's pending..... Budget Blown 98 100 series. rear locker. 2008 6.7L dodge 2500 quad cab

03-23-08, 12:46 AM	#137
Dusty IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,386	more Attached Images __________________ 97lx450 4" slee/j's, sliders, bumpers, 3" exhaust, custom turbo, HG pm/Valve job/seals, sweet custom skid plate, Sleeoffroad parts, Buys oe parts from Cruiser Dan used to have 37" swampers.. 1 tons and 42's pending..... Budget Blown 98 100 series. rear locker. 2008 6.7L dodge 2500 quad cab

03-23-08, 12:48 AM	#138
Dusty IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,386	mores Attached Images __________________ 97lx450 4" slee/j's, sliders, bumpers, 3" exhaust, custom turbo, HG pm/Valve job/seals, sweet custom skid plate, Sleeoffroad parts, Buys oe parts from Cruiser Dan used to have 37" swampers.. 1 tons and 42's pending..... Budget Blown 98 100 series. rear locker. 2008 6.7L dodge 2500 quad cab

03-23-08, 12:53 AM	#139
Dusty IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,386	i didn't go over the rear crossmember like the oe does. The 3" barely fits here. instead I went just lateral to the pass side rear upper suspension arm hanger. but I wont be using it so I wraped aroung it heading back into the middle of the truck to avoid the rear shock. I was able to stuff a piece of 26g 12"x 24" aluminum sheet abobe the 3" exhaust that goes over the frame. I bolted this in place with bolts already under the body __________________ 97lx450 4" slee/j's, sliders, bumpers, 3" exhaust, custom turbo, HG pm/Valve job/seals, sweet custom skid plate, Sleeoffroad parts, Buys oe parts from Cruiser Dan used to have 37" swampers.. 1 tons and 42's pending..... Budget Blown 98 100 series. rear locker. 2008 6.7L dodge 2500 quad cab

03-23-08, 12:56 AM	#140
Dusty IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,386	was a bit of work but worth it. Hopefully the turbo will give me a little more power with the bigger tube and run a little cooler. I welded the lm1 port for the wideband If I ever get around to dynoing her. Attached Images __________________ 97lx450 4" slee/j's, sliders, bumpers, 3" exhaust, custom turbo, HG pm/Valve job/seals, sweet custom skid plate, Sleeoffroad parts, Buys oe parts from Cruiser Dan used to have 37" swampers.. 1 tons and 42's pending..... Budget Blown 98 100 series. rear locker. 2008 6.7L dodge 2500 quad cab

03-23-08, 01:02 AM	#141
Dusty IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,386	the 4340 35 spline yukon shafts got to my door the day after I placed the order. I have been waiting 2 months on superior or alloy shafts which are both still backordered at least a month. The yukons were not my first choice but randys ring and pinion sure offered a great service on this deal at a great price. Note to all-NEVER BUY PARTS FROM 4 WHEEL PARTS. WHAT A JOKE. they sent me 3 wrong arbs. I had to finally tell them myself the correct part numbers. Attached Images __________________ 97lx450 4" slee/j's, sliders, bumpers, 3" exhaust, custom turbo, HG pm/Valve job/seals, sweet custom skid plate, Sleeoffroad parts, Buys oe parts from Cruiser Dan used to have 37" swampers.. 1 tons and 42's pending..... Budget Blown 98 100 series. rear locker. 2008 6.7L dodge 2500 quad cab

03-23-08, 01:16 AM	#142
Dusty IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,386	I removed the steering box today and will attempt to port it myself tom. If I run into problems I will ship it to pse and have them do it Hydraulic Assist Tech I think I will use the 1.5x8" trailgear job as I can go to their warehouse in person to take stuff back. Trail-Gear Inc > Ram Steering Kit also considering this Rock Logic 4x4 - Serving Your Real World 4x4 Needs - Rock crawling, custom fabrication, suspensions, axles, hydrolic assisst, custom roll cages and more any other suggestions? Attached Images __________________ 97lx450 4" slee/j's, sliders, bumpers, 3" exhaust, custom turbo, HG pm/Valve job/seals, sweet custom skid plate, Sleeoffroad parts, Buys oe parts from Cruiser Dan used to have 37" swampers.. 1 tons and 42's pending..... Budget Blown 98 100 series. rear locker. 2008 6.7L dodge 2500 quad cab

03-23-08, 11:29 PM	#144
Mace what he said Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 10,448	Range rovers don't flex for crap unless they are heavily modded.. A true three link rear will perform much better than a Dual radius arm setup in the rear. A. 2 Y links won't flex for crap without eating up whatever bushings you are using. 2. as the suspension lifts when climbing your AS will go to infinity.. And 2 things will most likely happe