Hydro Assist

HANCOCK · 10-03-07, 05:09 PM

Anyone with hydro assist set up on there truck or ideas on a good set please post info and pic's if you can on the setup. Please so i can see what setup would best suit my MWB FJ73 with a soa and high steer arms.
Dose and body this setup on the road as a daily driver?
If so how dose it handle?
Its it worth it?

Any advise welcome

Thanks

Mace · 10-03-07, 05:20 PM

Ton of info out there.

Do a search on Hydroassist.

Setup is whatever you want to make. No such thing as "best"
DD is fine depending on how big a ram you go with
Handles better than stock commonly.
VERY much worth it.

bustanutley · 10-03-07, 07:27 PM

Lots of options, I run a TJ box that I ported, and a box out of an AMC eagle. I bought the ram, hoses, tabs and fittings from PSC. I run a 1.75" ram. Works very well, it is a little slow but a higher volume pump would remedy that. It is one of the best upgrades around for a rock crawler, eliminates possiblity of bump steer, all that said I wish I would have just done full hydro but that is a different can of worms.

Here is the best pic I can find of my setup at the moment.

HANCOCK · 10-03-07, 11:53 PM

Do you drive it on the road ?
How dose it go on the road?
Is it safe on the road?

boots4 · 10-04-07, 07:51 AM

Yes it's safe on the road. You can see in bustanutley's pic that the hydraulic ram is attached to the tie rod. None of the original steering components are removed. You just add the ram to the system to "assist" your steering. There are several people on here that you'll find through searching that have and really like this set-up.

woody · 10-04-07, 08:05 AM

I've got assist on my 40-series, it's zero change from stock steering as far as highway/street use, and VERY nice when you are offroad.

do it, one of the better mods I've made to my rig....

bustanutley · 10-04-07, 08:18 AM

It drives better on the road with because the ram acts as a steering damper, a very effective damper

woody · 10-04-07, 08:22 AM

good point....my never balanced 37" Pitbulls don't have ANY wobble issues on the road...

lowtideride · 10-04-07, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woody

good point....my never balanced 37" Pitbulls don't have ANY wobble issues on the road...

Are you ever gonna get done with design phase 1?

huh?

well are ya?

camcruiser13 · 10-04-07, 11:23 AM

yes ram is soo worth it, just finished mine about 2 months ago, should have done it a long time ago

search for my write up thread as well

camcruiser13 · 10-04-07, 11:24 AM

or click here
http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...ght=ram+assist

Tapage · 10-04-07, 03:23 PM

Maybe with a 1.5" ram you could get faster steering with the factory Toyota PS pump ..

brokenparts · 10-04-07, 03:40 PM

yep, I run 1.5 ram, fj60 box, and saginaw (chevy) power steering pump with the restrictor drilled. Its one of the best upgrades I've made. I drive with my beadlocks and bias ply swampers to and from the trails and have no problems what-so-ever. Its a great upgrade and can be done on the cheap too!

Adding a tranny cooler is a good idea too.

bustanutley · 10-04-07, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tapage

Maybe with a 1.5" ram you could get faster steering with the factory Toyota PS pump ..

you couldn’t pay me to touch a Toyota pump on hydro assist setup…

camcruiser13 · 10-04-07, 09:01 PM

why not go gm pump a dime a dozen

x2 on the tranny cooler

projektdotnet · 10-05-07, 09:37 AM

get the GM pump. I used the Toy pump in my 40, we'll say it's out of a boneyard of sorts, and it leaks like a civ but the person didn't charge me for the pump when I got it, since they said it would leak. Also it is not as powerful now that it has started leaking. Gonna need to swap to a GM pump and get my box tapped I think.

Edit: I do NOT run hydro assist in my rig...yet.

lowtideride · 10-05-07, 09:42 AM

I run Hydro on my DD. Like it better that way.

camcruiser13 · 10-05-07, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projektdotnet

get the GM pump. I used the Toy pump in my 40, we'll say it's out of a boneyard of sorts, and it leaks like a civ but the person didn't charge me for the pump when I got it, since they said it would leak. Also it is not as powerful now that it has started leaking. Gonna need to swap to a GM pump and get my box tapped I think.

Edit: I do NOT run hydro assist in my rig...yet.

loser

brokenparts · 10-05-07, 11:36 AM

if you fast foward to about 3:20ish in this vid you can see where I am at a dead stop. With no ram assist there would have been no way to turn at a stop with those tires at 6psi and locked in the front. Being able to turn like that with ram assist is worth its weight in gold. The first time I tried that little section it resulted in a leaky pump...

Vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etfPjvQfaRk

HZJ60 Guy · 10-05-07, 05:57 PM

Here you can see my set up on my 60. The thing is the steering seems to be a little sluggish at low (rpm) speeds.... Do you think that my pump is not up to the task?

Thanks.

Tom

Mace · 10-05-07, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HZJ60 Guy

Do you think that my pump is not up to the task?

Thanks.

Tom

With a 1.5" ram, yes..

A better pump will work wonders..

camcruiser13 · 10-06-07, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brokenparts

if you fast foward to about 3:20ish in this vid you can see where I am at a dead stop. With no ram assist there would have been no way to turn at a stop with those tires at 6psi and locked in the front. Being able to turn like that with ram assist is worth its weight in gold. The first time I tried that little section it resulted in a leaky pump...

Vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etfPjvQfaRk

you using the pump i sent you? you send it to redneck?

HZJ60 Guy · 10-06-07, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mace

With a 1.5" ram, yes..

A better pump will work wonders..

Mace, any suggestions on a pump?

Mace · 10-06-07, 05:23 PM

Call station at PSCmotorsports.

freds40 · 10-06-07, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mace

Call station at PSCmotorsports.

Station is POS

Mace · 10-06-07, 06:10 PM

my bad.. POS/PSC

You are correct tho..

10-03-07, 05:09 PM	#1
HANCOCK IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4	Hydro Assist Anyone with hydro assist set up on there truck or ideas on a good set please post info and pic's if you can on the setup. Please so i can see what setup would best suit my MWB FJ73 with a soa and high steer arms. Dose and body this setup on the road as a daily driver? If so how dose it handle? Its it worth it? Any advise welcome Thanks

10-03-07, 05:20 PM	#2
Mace what he said Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 10,873	Ton of info out there. Do a search on Hydroassist. Setup is whatever you want to make. No such thing as "best" DD is fine depending on how big a ram you go with Handles better than stock commonly. VERY much worth it. __________________ I am kinda gay....... My Myspace http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=75712409 "Mary Poppins: In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun and - SNAP - the job's a game."

10-03-07, 07:27 PM	#3
bustanutley IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: CrAwLoRaDo Posts: 1,525	Lots of options, I run a TJ box that I ported, and a box out of an AMC eagle. I bought the ram, hoses, tabs and fittings from PSC. I run a 1.75" ram. Works very well, it is a little slow but a higher volume pump would remedy that. It is one of the best upgrades around for a rock crawler, eliminates possiblity of bump steer, all that said I wish I would have just done full hydro but that is a different can of worms. Here is the best pic I can find of my setup at the moment. __________________ FJ-40 on FO-DEEs just a lil guy HOMEGROWN

10-04-07, 07:51 AM	#5
boots4 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Portland OR Posts: 610	Yes it's safe on the road. You can see in bustanutley's pic that the hydraulic ram is attached to the tie rod. None of the original steering components are removed. You just add the ram to the system to "assist" your steering. There are several people on here that you'll find through searching that have and really like this set-up. __________________ 85 FJ60, testing, Cummins 4BTA, manual 4L80E, 203 to splitcase doubler, SOA, 38s, some other stuff. build-up: Family Haulin' FJ60

10-04-07, 08:05 AM	#6
woody Admin Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Appleton, WI TLCA# 1548 Posts: 9,456 Blog Entries: 1	I've got assist on my 40-series, it's zero change from stock steering as far as highway/street use, and VERY nice when you are offroad. do it, one of the better mods I've made to my rig.... __________________ Brian Swearingen

10-03-07, 11:53 PM	#4
HANCOCK IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4	Do you drive it on the road ? How dose it go on the road? Is it safe on the road?

10-04-07, 08:18 AM	#7
bustanutley IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: CrAwLoRaDo Posts: 1,525	It drives better on the road with because the ram acts as a steering damper, a very effective damper __________________ FJ-40 on FO-DEEs just a lil guy HOMEGROWN

10-04-07, 08:22 AM	#8
woody Admin Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Appleton, WI TLCA# 1548 Posts: 9,456 Blog Entries: 1	good point....my never balanced 37" Pitbulls don't have ANY wobble issues on the road... __________________ Brian Swearingen

10-04-07, 11:23 AM	#10
camcruiser13 Me and my Big Wheel Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: in the garage after dark in UT Posts: 5,042	yes ram is soo worth it, just finished mine about 2 months ago, should have done it a long time ago search for my write up thread as well __________________ cc ------------- 76' fj40 camcrusier13 build threads the following are links, just click, go on try it Traction Bar Sliders Ram Assist Bumper Poison Spider Style Shackle Reversal Half Doors if your doing it im sure ive done it, need help just ask.......

10-04-07, 11:24 AM	#11
camcruiser13 Me and my Big Wheel Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: in the garage after dark in UT Posts: 5,042	or click here http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...ght=ram+assist __________________ cc ------------- 76' fj40 camcrusier13 build threads the following are links, just click, go on try it Traction Bar Sliders Ram Assist Bumper Poison Spider Style Shackle Reversal Half Doors if your doing it im sure ive done it, need help just ask.......

10-04-07, 03:40 PM	#13
brokenparts IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hillsboro, OR TLCA# 16127 Posts: 2,235	yep, I run 1.5 ram, fj60 box, and saginaw (chevy) power steering pump with the restrictor drilled. Its one of the best upgrades I've made. I drive with my beadlocks and bias ply swampers to and from the trails and have no problems what-so-ever. Its a great upgrade and can be done on the cheap too! Adding a tranny cooler is a good idea too. __________________ "Just bump it" I am offended by reality all the time. http://www.cascadecruisers.com/ http://www.myspace.com/zachsu ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/198064-rotw-brokenparts-fj-60-a.html

10-04-07, 09:01 PM	#15
camcruiser13 Me and my Big Wheel Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: in the garage after dark in UT Posts: 5,042	why not go gm pump a dime a dozen x2 on the tranny cooler __________________ cc ------------- 76' fj40 camcrusier13 build threads the following are links, just click, go on try it Traction Bar Sliders Ram Assist Bumper Poison Spider Style Shackle Reversal Half Doors if your doing it im sure ive done it, need help just ask.......

10-05-07, 09:37 AM	#16
projektdotnet iCruz Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,780	get the GM pump. I used the Toy pump in my 40, we'll say it's out of a boneyard of sorts, and it leaks like a civ but the person didn't charge me for the pump when I got it, since they said it would leak. Also it is not as powerful now that it has started leaking. Gonna need to swap to a GM pump and get my box tapped I think. Edit: I do NOT run hydro assist in my rig...yet. __________________ "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin

10-05-07, 09:42 AM	#17
lowtideride Ride On... Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Florida TLCA# 14891 Posts: 7,057	I run Hydro on my DD. Like it better that way. __________________ www.NFCruiserheads.org FJ45 Crawler and a 1983 Hilux... has had no peers for 50 years...

10-05-07, 11:36 AM	#19
brokenparts IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hillsboro, OR TLCA# 16127 Posts: 2,235	if you fast foward to about 3:20ish in this vid you can see where I am at a dead stop. With no ram assist there would have been no way to turn at a stop with those tires at 6psi and locked in the front. Being able to turn like that with ram assist is worth its weight in gold. The first time I tried that little section it resulted in a leaky pump... Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etfPjvQfaRk __________________ "Just bump it" I am offended by reality all the time. http://www.cascadecruisers.com/ http://www.myspace.com/zachsu ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/198064-rotw-brokenparts-fj-60-a.html

10-05-07, 05:57 PM	#20
HZJ60 Guy Tank Buster Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Seattle area TLCA# 13102 Posts: 2,252	Here you can see my set up on my 60. The thing is the steering seems to be a little sluggish at low (rpm) speeds.... Do you think that my pump is not up to the task? Thanks. Tom Attached Images __________________ 2001 VW TDI Bora 1987 Toyota HZTJ-60 I'm a democrat member of the House of Representatives, and I've got what it takes to take what you've got!

10-06-07, 05:23 PM	#24
Mace what he said Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 10,873	Call station at PSCmotorsports. __________________ I am kinda gay....... My Myspace http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=75712409 "Mary Poppins: In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun and - SNAP - the job's a game."

10-06-07, 06:10 PM	#26
Mace what he said Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 10,873	my bad.. POS/PSC You are correct tho.. __________________ I am kinda gay....... My Myspace http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=75712409 "Mary Poppins: In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun and - SNAP - the job's a game."