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Old 05-29-09, 08:56 AM   #1051 (permalink)
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Thanks! I fixed it.

This would be going so much faster if you were here.

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that'd be wabco with a "b". part of arvin meritor, who also has rockwell.

I seem to be searching for everything.


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Thanks! I fixed it.

This would be going so much faster if you were here.




I seem to be searching for everything.
i spend 3/4s of my day searching for the wrench that i just had

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i spend 3/4s of my day searching for the wrench that i just had
Behind the air compressor? Starting to be on my first to look places.




Nice fab work on the mounts, what's you thoughts on the bolt clearance..

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Work on a bunch of little detail stuff today.

Everything cleaned and painted. (I think I have cleaned and painted enough that Coolerman and Welbelk may be getting envious.)
New belt installed
Exhaust side Mounts are 100% done.
Extra sensors removed and plugs installed
Turbo installed.
Oil lines Ran for Turbo.
Air Pipe Installed
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On the Injector Pump side of the motor.

Swapped out bolts in the rear of the engine mount.
Installed oil line for the Wabco/Pump set up.
Installed oil pressure line.
Fabricated a Throttle cable bracket and connected throttle cable.
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Fought the power steering lines and decided to have new ones made.
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I could have started it last night.

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How did you connect that trottle cable to the TLC gas pedal? pics?

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blue and red? wth, were's the purple and the pink and brown? how boring

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Ford Blue for all the water/coolant lines.

Cumins Red for the "other" parts of the engine.

Ford Gray for brackets and serious components. (Easier to spot cracks)


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blue and red? wth, were's the purple and the pink and brown? how boring

Is it also all I had in my shop.


I will be posting pics in a bit.


Lets just say the hood is back on as well as the bib.

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Clutch fan, fan, radiator schroud and radiator were on all my radar today.

Here is the way I left it last night.
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First thing I did was forget about using the FJ 40 radiator and mounting system. A good nights sleep tends to allow you to see things clearly.


I used the FJ60 series setup instead. Larger radiator, larger schoud, larger fan, etc. These little Cummins run cool but as a trail rig I can see it getting warm while crawling along or waiting in trail traffic.

After a bunch of measuring, I welded the tabs in. They are way overkill but they work.
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These little rubber mounts fit great.
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The uprights are made from 1 1/2" x 4" channel.


Holes for the engine side of the radiator were drilled so the exsisting bolt holes could be used.

The top of the side on the front of the uprights were notched to fit around the unique shapes of the radiator in that area.


I'm not done with the front, I have to come up with a better way to support the front of the radiator.

Tabs with bolts will be used.
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Bottom support bolted to the uprights shown here.

I angled the bottom of the uprights so the radiator will pivot out, like the bib is suppose to. It will make changing a water pump way easier. The angle is dialed in that the radiator cannot be damaged by my bib mount when tipped out.
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Clearances are good so I installed the FJ 60 Fan Clutch assy.


I used the neighbors mill and lathe to machine a hub to make it all work but it bolted right on when I was done.
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For the Top of the radiator support, I used the FJ 40 radiator stabilizing arms.


You can also see that I knotched the uprights so I could get to my headlight connectors.
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If I had the correct radiator hoses and power steering lines, I would taken it for a quick spin.
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Nice!!!

You know, with Hydro assist, you may wantt o think about making your PS pump one of the remote res styles.

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Nice!!!

You know, with Hydro assist, you may wantt o think about making your PS pump one of the remote res styles.

Great idea.

I'm plumbing the power steering through the tranmission cooler in the radiator in preperation for the Hydro assist. I'm thinking with the added volume and the cooling, it might do OK.

If not, a remote res will be added.

What do you think?

I have never had a hydro system that worked the way I thought it should.

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I picked up some radiator hoses last night on my way home from work. I could not believe I actually found radiator hoses that would go on. They are not exact fits so a little modification will have to be done.

I need to move fan closer to the radiator for the hoses to work.

Time for a machine shop to make me a new clutch fan adapter hub that is 1 1/4" thicker.

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Curious how you're going to do the lower hose. I had to make an adapter to get from the massive cummins port to the 60s radiator port.

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Curious how you're going to do the lower hose. I had to make an adapter to get from the massive cummins port to the 60s radiator port.
The bends are perfect the housing side is perfect. The radiator side is a bit on the big side. Since I just had the radiator rebuild and recored, I'm going to take it back and heave them install a bigger neck to it matches the hose.

I want common parts on this rig so any autoparts store can hook me up. I'm not a fan of the multiple reducers that I have seen on some of the other websites. IMHO a radiator hose should be a maximum of three pieces not including the clamps. Idealy one piece but many came from the factory with a metal pipe in between the oulet side of the radiator and the inlet side of the engine, ie. most all FJ's, late 60's and early 70 GM products, etc.


In the bottom picture I'm actually holding the hose out of the way to show the inlet nipple.
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The top radiator hose, I used the GATES Part # 21729.


I will be installing a metal pipe in the center so I can shorten the hose. The bends and sizes are perfect.
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I have some clearance issue that I do not like.

I like the way the hose lays since it allows easy access to the secondary oil fill tube. I have the #1 valve cover for oil fill as a primary.

It is too close to the fan. I will be having fan clutch spacer made to set the fan 30mm further into the housing. This will give me the clearance for the hose and should make the fan work more effectively and protect it from water crossing, etc.
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The top radiator hose, I used the GATES Part # 21729.


I will be installing a metal pipe in the center so I can shorten the hose. The bends and sizes are perfect.
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I have some clearance issue that I do not like.

I like the way the hose lays since it allows easy access to the secondary oil fill tube. I have the #1 valve cover for oil fill as a primary.

It is too close to the fan. I will be having fan clutch spacer made to set the fan 30mm further into the housing. This will give me the clearance for the hose and should make the fan work more effectively and protect it from water crossing, etc.
What if you used a bent rather than straight piece of pipe and arched the rad hose upward and set it back a bit? Would you have enough clearance under it to get at the oil filler? My understanding is that half the depth of the fan should be exposed behind the shroud, as it throws air out radially as much as it pulls it back axially.

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I have really enjoyed following this build thread.

Great work. great ideas and creative use of parts and pieces.

I love the 4BT !!!!!!!! Don't care what color it is, as long as it runs !!!!!!

With the red and blue, you are almost patriotic........just paint some parts white !!!!!!

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