"Ronin"--FJ45 Build By Mad4wd - Page 4

wngrog · 08-03-07, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by independent4x

so Larry, the more i look at that body mount design.......you are basically hard mounting the body to the frame

typical mounts are cushioning the body to the frame on a horizontal plane by having an isolator (rubber or ply) sandwiched beween the 2 metal surfaces....looks to me like the body will basically be riding on the 2 horizontal bolts....ie metal to metal.

can you explain that idea a little more in detail?

The red things are bushings.

Wow. Wow. Wow.

That build table is impressive!

The only way to get one of those tubs square is to build a new frame. When Todd Yonkman did his, he had so many shims in his onld frame mounts getting it close to level.

I cannot wait to see this thing in the end....Great Work!

independent4x · 08-03-07, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woody

my assumption was the red in the images are spring-eye type poly bushings....

yeah, that's pretty much what i was guessing...............just when i glanced at the rendering for some reason i didn't get that.

Mad4wd · 08-03-07, 08:16 AM

Guys
They are poly bushings, correct. We machined alluminum sleeves which will be inserted into the 2x2 and 2x3 that they give you for mounts. The sleeves will then be TIG'd to the box mounts on the cab.

This should be alot stronger than a simple single shear mount PLUS it leaves my floor clean for cage

. I will have some pics up today as they are bent up and ready to go.

I am working on the connection of the front cowl to tub. Aqualu bolts it together with 4 bolts in the floor...which i want something stronger so I am drilling, countersinking, bucking and microshaving aircraft rivets at the overlap in a nice pattern....I have an AP w/Avionics and I have a sheetmetal fetish

so...it has to be sick. I will be posting pics soon...should have mounts done today hopefully.

Thanks for the props also

Larry

FLYINGLOW · 08-03-07, 10:07 AM

I have nothing to say that hasn't been said already. Its great to see the Canadian content too! NWF and Aquilu do very nice work. Check out Todd's truck at the Aquilu web site too. It was just featured in 4WD magazine.

John Smith · 08-03-07, 10:58 AM

Thank You for taking the time to do this thread! It is great.

Medusa · 08-03-07, 12:22 PM

Can you share the durometer on the poly bushings?

Tigerstripe40 · 08-03-07, 03:27 PM

Wow, this build is awesome.

Mad4wd · 08-03-07, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa

Can you share the durometer on the poly bushings?

Medusa,
Honestly I don't know. They are spring eye bushings that were the right dimensions to fit into the existing box tube welded to the tub.

Larry

Radd Cruisers · 08-04-07, 11:05 AM

Is that fire wall standard for Aqualu?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad4wd

Marking for 'imaginary' firewall line...

Mad4wd · 08-05-07, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radd Cruisers

Is that fire wall standard for Aqualu?

Yes, that is their OEM firewall, which I will be changing in places to suit our build.

Larry

concretejungle · 08-07-07, 01:15 PM

very very very very very very very very very very very nice.

I thought Gary's (wagoneer) build was awesome, this is going to get even better!

I know it's HUGE motor, but it sure would be cool to see a duramax/allison combo in a cruiser.

Mad4wd · 08-07-07, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by concretejungle

very very very very very very very very very very very nice.

I thought Gary's (wagoneer) build was awesome, this is going to get even better!

I know it's HUGE motor, but it sure would be cool to see a duramax/allison combo in a cruiser.

Ive actually thought about that...I am waiting for Grogan to commision me to build it for him....

We dont do alot of builds normally for two reasons. One, I am out of space (waiting on a 4K addition) and Second I am way critical and slow on how I work...so its diffulcult to find people willing to pay for that level of 4wd work...but they will pay for street rod /streetcar work.

Larry

Mad4wd · 08-07-07, 08:33 PM

Ok, here are a few more pics as we start mounting the body mounts.
We Dykem's blued the centerline and clamped up the mount to help find hole centers.

Mad4wd · 08-07-07, 08:34 PM

We are using a center punch w/ a V-block to mark center. The V-block keeps the punch perpindicular to the work face ensuring a 'true' center.

Mad4wd · 08-07-07, 08:36 PM

This is a cutter made by 'Uni-bit' that bores super accurate holes. It beats the heck out of using a hole saw which skips all over the place. They are available in quite a few sizes.

Mad4wd · 08-07-07, 08:38 PM

.250" Wall tubes inserted into cab with bushings in place.

Mad4wd · 08-07-07, 08:39 PM

Outside view of what is taking place in the mounts on the cab.

Mad4wd · 08-07-07, 08:41 PM

Getting ready to tack the sides to the frame. Then we can remove the body and TIG the sleeves to the cab. We then will begin the process of skinning the mounts and TIG'ing the outside of the mounts to the rails.

wngrog · 08-07-07, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad4wd

Ive actually thought about that...I am waiting for Grogan to commision me to build it for him....

We dont do alot of builds normally for two reasons. One, I am out of space (waiting on a 4K addition) and Second I am way critical and slow on how I work...so its diffulcult to find people willing to pay for that level of 4wd work...but they will pay for street rod /streetcar work.

Larry

Funny.....

Did you see how BIG that Suburban Gorilla had to be on Extreme 4x4 to fit the Duramax in it?

No thanks, I will take this anyday.

Is this your personal rig? Damn, you are getting to spend some awesome time on it.

I am very impressed with the attention to detail.

What about getting some of the pictures of your model in this thread

Mace · 08-07-07, 09:54 PM

Gotta ask.. Why 2 bushings??

GreasedPiggy · 08-07-07, 09:54 PM

I don't think I can keep watching this thread because I'll start crying!!!

This is a seriously cool build. Awesome approach.

LT · 08-07-07, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad4wd

This is a cutter made by 'Uni-bit' that bores super accurate holes. It beats the heck out of using a hole saw which skips all over the place. They are available in quite a few sizes.

Where do you get these little gems? I hate making holes with the hole saw.

Mad4wd · 08-07-07, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LT

Where do you get these little gems? I hate making holes with the hole saw.

I buy them mailorder...they work great...not super cheap, but they last ok with a slow spped drill press or air drill.

Specs:

Carbide Hole Cutters

135 degree split point ensures a true start and eliminates bit walking. No center-punching is required, and the 3/16" pilot drill is double-ended for long life

Three-flatted shank provides a more secure chuck hold, reduces slippage

Hardened carbon steel body is turned from solid steel, not welded, for long life and durability

Designed to make holes in material less than 1/8" thick (up to 10 gauge)

Ideal for use with stainless steel, mild steel, copper, brass, aluminum, plexiglass, fiberglass, and laminates

Carbide cutting edge cuts cleanly without hogging, chattering, or vibration for true, round holes

Mad4wd · 08-07-07, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wngrog

Funny.....

Did you see how BIG that Suburban Gorilla had to be on Extreme 4x4 to fit the Duramax in it?

No thanks, I will take this anyday.

Is this your personal rig? Damn, you are getting to spend some awesome time on it.

I am very impressed with the attention to detail.

What about getting some of the pictures of your model in this thread

G,
I know how big that thing was, we built the axles for that mega beast...that project got waaayyy out of control. The engine is not that big if you take the dual turbo crap off of it. Yep, this one is mine and i try to put an hour or two everyday on it. I was waiting for someone to say something about the Mrs's...let me see what I can do for you

...thanks for the good words.

Larry

Mad4wd · 08-08-07, 09:12 AM

Grogan,
You asked for them....heres a couple...

Mad4wd · 08-08-07, 09:13 AM

again...hehehehehe

08-03-07, 08:16 AM	#93
Mad4wd IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 155	Guys They are poly bushings, correct. We machined alluminum sleeves which will be inserted into the 2x2 and 2x3 that they give you for mounts. The sleeves will then be TIG'd to the box mounts on the cab. This should be alot stronger than a simple single shear mount PLUS it leaves my floor clean for cage. I will have some pics up today as they are bent up and ready to go. I am working on the connection of the front cowl to tub. Aqualu bolts it together with 4 bolts in the floor...which i want something stronger so I am drilling, countersinking, bucking and microshaving aircraft rivets at the overlap in a nice pattern....I have an AP w/Avionics and I have a sheetmetal fetish so...it has to be sick. I will be posting pics soon...should have mounts done today hopefully. Thanks for the props also Larry __________________ TLCA #17281 FJ45 SWB Project, Aqualu, 6.0 L HO, Fab9's, In Progress 66 FJ40 Project/Parts ? 84 4-Runner, Bone Stock Texas Truck 87 4-Runner, 22RET, SAS, Etc. 05 Ram CTD, BD, ATS Trans "I could have been a chimney sweep....does anyone know where I put that matchbook cover?"

08-03-07, 10:07 AM	#94
FLYINGLOW IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ladysmith TLCA# 9203 Posts: 705	I have nothing to say that hasn't been said already. Its great to see the Canadian content too! NWF and Aquilu do very nice work. Check out Todd's truck at the Aquilu web site too. It was just featured in 4WD magazine. __________________ 77 FJ40 TBI 2F, ARB rear, rear 45 springs, 36" TSLs, Warn 8274...... Made in Japan, Built in Canada 97 4 Runner Ltd

08-03-07, 10:58 AM	#95
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08-03-07, 12:22 PM	#96
Medusa IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 361	Can you share the durometer on the poly bushings? __________________ Got Rice?

08-03-07, 03:27 PM	#97
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08-07-07, 01:15 PM	#101
concretejungle IH8MUD Tour Guide Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Cadillac TLCA# 14646 Posts: 5,980	very very very very very very very very very very very nice. I thought Gary's (wagoneer) build was awesome, this is going to get even better! I know it's HUGE motor, but it sure would be cool to see a duramax/allison combo in a cruiser. __________________ 95' FZJ80 OME med./J lift, ARB rack, ARB Bull Bar w/tmax 12,500, 315 Nitto, stainless brake lines, Center Diff Lock, Sliders, IPOR Skid, IPOR rear bumper, upgraded slee sticker, custom dents, more to come. . . Remember it's a gateway drug, so it will actually lead to "crystal meh".

08-07-07, 08:33 PM	#103
Mad4wd IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 155	Ok, here are a few more pics as we start mounting the body mounts. We Dykem's blued the centerline and clamped up the mount to help find hole centers. Attached Images __________________ TLCA #17281 FJ45 SWB Project, Aqualu, 6.0 L HO, Fab9's, In Progress 66 FJ40 Project/Parts ? 84 4-Runner, Bone Stock Texas Truck 87 4-Runner, 22RET, SAS, Etc. 05 Ram CTD, BD, ATS Trans "I could have been a chimney sweep....does anyone know where I put that matchbook cover?"

08-07-07, 08:34 PM	#104
Mad4wd IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 155	We are using a center punch w/ a V-block to mark center. The V-block keeps the punch perpindicular to the work face ensuring a 'true' center. Attached Images __________________ TLCA #17281 FJ45 SWB Project, Aqualu, 6.0 L HO, Fab9's, In Progress 66 FJ40 Project/Parts ? 84 4-Runner, Bone Stock Texas Truck 87 4-Runner, 22RET, SAS, Etc. 05 Ram CTD, BD, ATS Trans "I could have been a chimney sweep....does anyone know where I put that matchbook cover?"

08-07-07, 08:36 PM	#105
Mad4wd IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 155	This is a cutter made by 'Uni-bit' that bores super accurate holes. It beats the heck out of using a hole saw which skips all over the place. They are available in quite a few sizes. Attached Images __________________ TLCA #17281 FJ45 SWB Project, Aqualu, 6.0 L HO, Fab9's, In Progress 66 FJ40 Project/Parts ? 84 4-Runner, Bone Stock Texas Truck 87 4-Runner, 22RET, SAS, Etc. 05 Ram CTD, BD, ATS Trans "I could have been a chimney sweep....does anyone know where I put that matchbook cover?"

08-07-07, 08:38 PM	#106
Mad4wd IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 155	.250" Wall tubes inserted into cab with bushings in place. Attached Images __________________ TLCA #17281 FJ45 SWB Project, Aqualu, 6.0 L HO, Fab9's, In Progress 66 FJ40 Project/Parts ? 84 4-Runner, Bone Stock Texas Truck 87 4-Runner, 22RET, SAS, Etc. 05 Ram CTD, BD, ATS Trans "I could have been a chimney sweep....does anyone know where I put that matchbook cover?"

08-07-07, 08:39 PM	#107
Mad4wd IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 155	Outside view of what is taking place in the mounts on the cab. Attached Images __________________ TLCA #17281 FJ45 SWB Project, Aqualu, 6.0 L HO, Fab9's, In Progress 66 FJ40 Project/Parts ? 84 4-Runner, Bone Stock Texas Truck 87 4-Runner, 22RET, SAS, Etc. 05 Ram CTD, BD, ATS Trans "I could have been a chimney sweep....does anyone know where I put that matchbook cover?"

08-07-07, 08:41 PM	#108
Mad4wd IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 155	Getting ready to tack the sides to the frame. Then we can remove the body and TIG the sleeves to the cab. We then will begin the process of skinning the mounts and TIG'ing the outside of the mounts to the rails. Attached Images __________________ TLCA #17281 FJ45 SWB Project, Aqualu, 6.0 L HO, Fab9's, In Progress 66 FJ40 Project/Parts ? 84 4-Runner, Bone Stock Texas Truck 87 4-Runner, 22RET, SAS, Etc. 05 Ram CTD, BD, ATS Trans "I could have been a chimney sweep....does anyone know where I put that matchbook cover?"

08-07-07, 09:54 PM	#110
Mace what he said Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 10,966	Gotta ask.. Why 2 bushings?? __________________ I am kinda gay....... My Myspace http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=75712409 "Mary Poppins: In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun and - SNAP - the job's a game."

08-07-07, 09:54 PM	#111
GreasedPiggy IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 116	I don't think I can keep watching this thread because I'll start crying!!! This is a seriously cool build. Awesome approach. __________________ 1975 FJ 55, Cummins 4BT, 4L80E, NP208, SOA, 14 bolt rear, Dana 60 front, ARB Lockers, Scout II PS, Discs, Cross-over, TSL Q78-16 1995 T-100, 4" susp lift, 33 Goodyear MT/R, bought it new, my DD 1961 ford Falcon, 5.0L EFI, T-5, 9-inch

08-08-07, 09:12 AM	#115
Mad4wd IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 155	Grogan, You asked for them....heres a couple... Attached Images __________________ TLCA #17281 FJ45 SWB Project, Aqualu, 6.0 L HO, Fab9's, In Progress 66 FJ40 Project/Parts ? 84 4-Runner, Bone Stock Texas Truck 87 4-Runner, 22RET, SAS, Etc. 05 Ram CTD, BD, ATS Trans "I could have been a chimney sweep....does anyone know where I put that matchbook cover?"

08-08-07, 09:13 AM	#116
Mad4wd IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 155	again...hehehehehe