Finally I began my coil spring conversion!! - Page 3

Tapage · 02-02-07, 10:10 AM

My rear track bar I use .75" ( 3/4 ) heim .. but it's only a track bar .. so I recognice no problem yet at all with this setup ..

Just IMOP in your setup gonna do more effort .. so I thought in 1"

Francesco_from_Italy · 03-07-07, 08:02 AM

I'm doing it very slowly but I'm still working on my project!

Here some pics of the last news: I built up the support for upper link, tomorrow I will sauld it to the axle.

So, what do you think about it???

Francesco

Francesco_from_Italy · 03-08-07, 10:23 AM

Today The pieces has been saulded to the axle; tomorrow we'll began to built the lower bars' links.

Pics:

Francesco

brayn · 03-12-07, 01:09 AM

Keep going!I also plan on doing this!

Francesco_from_Italy · 03-12-07, 11:05 AM

The work's going on!

Today I brought the axle back to my garage and I put it under the car; tomorrow I'm going to take the measurements to put it in the right position.

Here some pics:

Francesco

Francesco_from_Italy · 03-13-07, 05:17 AM

Good morning everybody!

I've got an important question: I found out these coilovers (http://www.milneroffroad.com/FOXPRICE2.HTM) by FOX and I wanted to know from you something about them: are they a good product?
I saw that the have a lo0t of versions, wich is the best, considering also the price? Is there much difference between the ones with remote reservoir and the ones without it?

Thanx for your help!!

Francesco

Francesco_from_Italy · 03-13-07, 05:29 AM

One more thing: what do you thing about the Air Shock? It works without the coil becouse it has an air spring, adjustable from 75 to 400 psi; It has a little bit less travel (4" less then the coilovers) but seems to be a good choice. Adding to that, the price is very low.

Is this preferable to the coilover or I should forget it...?

Francesco

P.S. talking about the coilovers, seems that the coil spring is NOT included, isn't it?

Please, forgive me for all these questions!!

Francesco_from_Italy · 04-20-07, 11:52 AM

I've got some beig news about the job.

I went on with the works on the rear axle: I made the attachemnts for the upper bars, here there are a couple of pics, wht do you think about them?

Further (most of all!) I finally received the air shocks by Radflo:

Now I'm beginning to think about possible solutions for the shocks' link; here it is a veeeery simple drawing of one possibility:

Francesco

Mace · 04-20-07, 01:01 PM

In the front you realyl want to support the frame side shock mounts to each other. Makes for a much stronger setup..

Francesco_from_Italy · 04-21-07, 06:55 AM

Didn't understand what you said, sorry...

Francesco

Mace · 04-21-07, 09:24 AM

build a bridge between the shock mounts over the motor..

Tapage · 04-21-07, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francesco_from_Italy

Didn't understand what you said, sorry...

Francesco

Like a strut in a race car ..

Francesco_from_Italy · 04-23-07, 02:43 AM

Ok, that's what I tought, we call it "dome bar".
In effect I've had this idea also before, but I was not so sure about it; if you say that it hasn't any consequence for the rest of car I will built it.

Talking to the friend who's helping me with the solderings, he suggestd me to make something like that:

The drawing referes to the driver's side, where I have the driving shaft exactly where I should put the shock's support (on the passenger's side there is nothing so I don't have any space problem).

Do you think it would be fine?

Francesco

Francesco_from_Italy · 04-23-07, 07:27 AM

This would be the alternative:

Francesco

awp_cruiser · 04-23-07, 11:47 AM

Another alternative is to look for a different power steering box. You might have better luck with FJ60 box. Or Hilux / minitruck. I think both of those are face of frame mounted and the stem is locaded behind the shock tower above the frame.

2 steps forward and one back, but I think you will like the end result better.

Good luck.

Andy

Francesco_from_Italy · 04-23-07, 12:45 PM

Thanks Awp, but I troubled enought with power steering! This Blazer's steering works fine, I think I'll keep it.

Francesco

scott67fj40 · 04-23-07, 04:12 PM

I am doing the same thing to my 40 with 80 axles. I am running a wishbone 4 link in the rear and a 3 link with a hardpan bar in the front. I just got the links all tacked in and waiting on my coilovers. I am trying to get a couple of pics on here but i cant get them to upload.

scott67fj40 · 04-23-07, 04:22 PM

lets see if this works

scott67fj40 · 04-23-07, 04:23 PM

I still have some bracing and a lot of welding to do

Mr. Notorious · 04-23-07, 09:10 PM

Pretty cool mounts for your rear uppers at the frame. Allows you to play with your anti-squat. Good idea...

The front definatly looks tricky with the steering shaft in the way. I must agree with the others, it may save time to relocate it now instead of building around it. By the time you build around it you may find it still interferes...

scott67fj40 · 04-23-07, 09:27 PM

his rear upper mounts do look good at the frame, I think I might have to change mine to do the same. I did raise the links off of my pumpkin quite a bit higher though to try and get a little down slope towards the front with the rear uppers for better road use.

scott67fj40 · 04-23-07, 09:28 PM

I will try and get more pics up tomorrow

Francesco_from_Italy · 04-24-07, 04:54 AM

Any wuggestion about the shock's links?

Francesco

scott67fj40 · 04-24-07, 06:24 AM

The front pinion angle on the 80 axles is 10 degrees right?

Francesco_from_Italy · 05-02-07, 07:28 AM

After some days of rest I'm going on with my work.

You must help me to take a decision about the way to build the links for the
front axle's shoks.

These are the two options:

The first one seems to be stronger, but is certanly much more heavy and needs more iron and more weldings.
The second one should be better, but I would avoid the bridge between the two shoks if it's possible and I don't know if it will be strong enought (remember that I don't have any spring but air shocks, so these pieces will hold the all car).

So, I've still got a doubt (as usual...)!

Suggestions...????

Francesco

Francesco_from_Italy · 05-03-07, 11:30 AM

Just a few pics of the work of the day: the rear axle is finally complete!

Francesco

Francesco_from_Italy · 07-28-07, 10:26 AM

Here I am again; in these days I studied a front shocks' link consitsing in a bent "U" iron bar:

Obviously the weldings are just temporary, they will be much stronger and well done.

This is the link put on the car: seems that everything stays on its place.

What do you thing about this solution? Considering that I'll put several renforcements to the structure, do you think it will be strong enought?

Francesco

scottryana · 07-28-07, 01:39 PM

If you are unable to tie the 2 shock mounts together with a "dome bar" I would suggest running the mount down the side and top of the frame, spreading the load over a larger area.

Ryan.

Francesco_from_Italy · 07-30-07, 04:27 AM

That's what I hope to do; the problem is that on the driver's side the room is not much but I would attack the link to the upper and the lateral surface of the frame as you suggest.
In a few days I will prepare a better version of the link and I'll study the definitive attachments and I'll show it you..

Francesco

03-07-07, 08:02 AM	#62
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	I'm doing it very slowly but I'm still working on my project! Here some pics of the last news: I built up the support for upper link, tomorrow I will sauld it to the axle. So, what do you think about it??? Francesco __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

03-08-07, 10:23 AM	#63
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	Today The pieces has been saulded to the axle; tomorrow we'll began to built the lower bars' links. Pics: Francesco __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

03-12-07, 01:09 AM	#64
brayn IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: S26 34.763 E18 08.057 Posts: 79	Keep going!I also plan on doing this! __________________ Member of http://www.landcruiserclub.co.za

03-12-07, 11:05 AM	#65
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	The work's going on! Today I brought the axle back to my garage and I put it under the car; tomorrow I'm going to take the measurements to put it in the right position. Here some pics: Francesco __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

03-13-07, 05:17 AM	#66
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	Good morning everybody! I've got an important question: I found out these coilovers (http://www.milneroffroad.com/FOXPRICE2.HTM) by FOX and I wanted to know from you something about them: are they a good product? I saw that the have a lo0t of versions, wich is the best, considering also the price? Is there much difference between the ones with remote reservoir and the ones without it? Thanx for your help!! Francesco __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

03-13-07, 05:29 AM	#67
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	One more thing: what do you thing about the Air Shock? It works without the coil becouse it has an air spring, adjustable from 75 to 400 psi; It has a little bit less travel (4" less then the coilovers) but seems to be a good choice. Adding to that, the price is very low. Is this preferable to the coilover or I should forget it...? Francesco P.S. talking about the coilovers, seems that the coil spring is NOT included, isn't it? Please, forgive me for all these questions!! __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

04-20-07, 11:52 AM	#68
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	I've got some beig news about the job. I went on with the works on the rear axle: I made the attachemnts for the upper bars, here there are a couple of pics, wht do you think about them? Further (most of all!) I finally received the air shocks by Radflo: Now I'm beginning to think about possible solutions for the shocks' link; here it is a veeeery simple drawing of one possibility: Francesco __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

04-20-07, 01:01 PM	#69
Mace what he said Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 10,966	In the front you realyl want to support the frame side shock mounts to each other. Makes for a much stronger setup.. __________________ I am kinda gay....... My Myspace http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=75712409 "Mary Poppins: In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun and - SNAP - the job's a game."

04-21-07, 06:55 AM	#70
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	Didn't understand what you said, sorry... Francesco __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

04-21-07, 09:24 AM	#71
Mace what he said Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 10,966	build a bridge between the shock mounts over the motor.. __________________ I am kinda gay....... My Myspace http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=75712409 "Mary Poppins: In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun and - SNAP - the job's a game."

04-23-07, 02:43 AM	#73
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	Ok, that's what I tought, we call it "dome bar". In effect I've had this idea also before, but I was not so sure about it; if you say that it hasn't any consequence for the rest of car I will built it. Talking to the friend who's helping me with the solderings, he suggestd me to make something like that: The drawing referes to the driver's side, where I have the driving shaft exactly where I should put the shock's support (on the passenger's side there is nothing so I don't have any space problem). Do you think it would be fine? Francesco __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

04-23-07, 07:27 AM	#74
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	This would be the alternative: Francesco __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

04-23-07, 11:47 AM	#75
awp_cruiser Rookie with a torch. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 275	Another alternative is to look for a different power steering box. You might have better luck with FJ60 box. Or Hilux / minitruck. I think both of those are face of frame mounted and the stem is locaded behind the shock tower above the frame. 2 steps forward and one back, but I think you will like the end result better. Good luck. Andy __________________ 1973 FJ40 - So far: V8, SM465, Scout PS, SR, SOA, 55 springs, 4WDB, Painless, Revolvers, 37's, Still to come: Cage, ARBs, Orion

04-23-07, 12:45 PM	#76
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	Thanks Awp, but I troubled enought with power steering! This Blazer's steering works fine, I think I'll keep it. Francesco __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

04-23-07, 04:12 PM	#77
scott67fj40 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spring Tx Posts: 267	I am doing the same thing to my 40 with 80 axles. I am running a wishbone 4 link in the rear and a 3 link with a hardpan bar in the front. I just got the links all tacked in and waiting on my coilovers. I am trying to get a couple of pics on here but i cant get them to upload.

04-23-07, 04:22 PM	#78
scott67fj40 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spring Tx Posts: 267	lets see if this works Attached Images

04-23-07, 04:23 PM	#79
scott67fj40 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spring Tx Posts: 267	I still have some bracing and a lot of welding to do

04-23-07, 09:10 PM	#80
Mr. Notorious IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 95	Pretty cool mounts for your rear uppers at the frame. Allows you to play with your anti-squat. Good idea... The front definatly looks tricky with the steering shaft in the way. I must agree with the others, it may save time to relocate it now instead of building around it. By the time you build around it you may find it still interferes... __________________ '67 FJ40 w/ 35's , ARB's, and chevy350 '02 TJ on 31" MT/R's - DD '93 Yamaha FZR600 - another toy

04-23-07, 09:27 PM	#81
scott67fj40 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spring Tx Posts: 267	his rear upper mounts do look good at the frame, I think I might have to change mine to do the same. I did raise the links off of my pumpkin quite a bit higher though to try and get a little down slope towards the front with the rear uppers for better road use.

04-23-07, 09:28 PM	#82
scott67fj40 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spring Tx Posts: 267	I will try and get more pics up tomorrow

04-24-07, 04:54 AM	#83
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	Any wuggestion about the shock's links? Francesco __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

04-24-07, 06:24 AM	#84
scott67fj40 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spring Tx Posts: 267	The front pinion angle on the 80 axles is 10 degrees right? __________________ 67 fj40, Chevy 350 SM420 Trans Saginaw PS S-A-W Racerunner coilovers 3 linked front 4 linked rear Currie Antirock FJ80 axles longfields ARB lockers front and rear Warn 9000 37x13.50 Xterrains and so on and so on..............

05-02-07, 07:28 AM	#85
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	After some days of rest I'm going on with my work. You must help me to take a decision about the way to build the links for the front axle's shoks. These are the two options: The first one seems to be stronger, but is certanly much more heavy and needs more iron and more weldings. The second one should be better, but I would avoid the bridge between the two shoks if it's possible and I don't know if it will be strong enought (remember that I don't have any spring but air shocks, so these pieces will hold the all car). So, I've still got a doubt (as usual...)! Suggestions...???? Francesco __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

05-03-07, 11:30 AM	#86
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	Just a few pics of the work of the day: the rear axle is finally complete! Francesco __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

07-28-07, 10:26 AM	#87
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	Here I am again; in these days I studied a front shocks' link consitsing in a bent "U" iron bar: Obviously the weldings are just temporary, they will be much stronger and well done. This is the link put on the car: seems that everything stays on its place. What do you thing about this solution? Considering that I'll put several renforcements to the structure, do you think it will be strong enought? Francesco __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

07-28-07, 01:39 PM	#88
scottryana IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 603	If you are unable to tie the 2 shock mounts together with a "dome bar" I would suggest running the mount down the side and top of the frame, spreading the load over a larger area. Ryan. __________________ The Neverending FJ55 Project http://homepage.mac.com/ryanandjessaka/PhotoAlbum1.html Stock 1971 FJ55

07-30-07, 04:27 AM	#89
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203	That's what I hope to do; the problem is that on the driver's side the room is not much but I would attack the link to the upper and the lateral surface of the frame as you suggest. In a few days I will prepare a better version of the link and I'll study the definitive attachments and I'll show it you.. Francesco __________________ 1972 Fj 40 - 1992 Hzj 73

08-11-07, 03:53 AM	#90
Francesco_from_Italy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bologna, Italy Posts: 203