FJ60 1-ton Superduty build

[sixty]

When you get the EBL, he sends a disc with a stock bin and XDF file (set the configurable options of the bin) on it & gives you instructions on what needs to be changed first along with an xls file to calculate fueling requirements. I picked Tunerpro cause its free & is more widely used. I spent a few hours playing with the bin and it all started to make sense. There are still a few things I don't understand but it really is pretty straight forward. Hopefully I'll start getting the tune dialed in by next week. I did a couple of learns with the NB02 and its worked pretty good but will be much faster with the WB02

As far hardware, get a 454 tbi (675cfm +/-), use your stock injectors and an adapter plate to the perfomance intake.

Pull the spring out of the stock pressure regulator and use an external adjustable regulator with a vacuum port and pressure gauge. You can get these on ebay for around $40 or use the expensive Aeroquip one. I used one that bolts in place of the stock one & it is a pain to adjust & does not have a guage. Change your lines to AN-6 braided while your at it.

With fuel pressure set to 40psi this should support 400hp, or you can bump it to 50 for 450+hp.

Get the EBL and a wideband o2 sensor and you should be set. You need a min of dual 2.5" exhaust .

[brokenparts]

Originally Posted by sixty

When you get the EBL, he sends a disc with a stock bin and XDF file (set the configurable options of the bin) on it & gives you instructions on what needs to be changed first along with an xls file to calculate fueling requirements. I picked Tunerpro cause its free & is more widely used. I spent a few hours playing with the bin and it all started to make sense. There are still a few things I don't understand but it really is pretty straight forward. Hopefully I'll start getting the tune dialed in by next week. I did a couple of learns with the NB02 and its worked pretty good but will be much faster with the WB02

As far hardware, get a 454 tbi (675cfm +/-), use your stock injectors and an adapter plate to the perfomance intake.

Pull the spring out of the stock pressure regulator and use an external adjustable regulator with a vacuum port and pressure gauge. You can get these on ebay for around $40 or use the expensive Aeroquip one. I used one that bolts in place of the stock one & it is a pain to adjust & does not have a guage. Change your lines to AN-6 braided while your at it.

With fuel pressure set to 40psi this should support 400hp, or you can bump it to 50 for 450+hp.

Get the EBL and a wideband o2 sensor and you should be set. You need a min of dual 2.5" exhaust .

Man, its amazing all the info you have. I posted something in the general 4x4 section on pirate and I swear if I turn up my speakers really loud I can hear crickets in that thread. I did some ebay research today and see alot of the holley throttle bodies on there going for about $200? Looks like they flow about 670 cfm. Are they worth bidding on or are you just buying the holley name?

[sixty]

I have WAY too many hour researching this stuff If your not in the "in-crowd" in the Gen 4x4 forum, its difficult to get answers. I hate that place.

The holley TBI's are ok but stock GM is better. You can get the 50mm bored TBI form Xtremeefi on EBAY for around $200, but I like the 454 TBI better anyway. The only reason I did not do the 454 tbi is I got the bored TBI locally for next to nothing with a mountain of tbi parts, also I would have to have changed the throttle linkage (for the 700r4 TV cable) and re-wire the TPS for the 454 flat style connector (more compact since the 454's came with a thick adapter to spread bore). the 454 TBI is very solid and less prone to baseplate leaks like the bored SBC tbi's, they can also be bored out to 54mm to flow 850cfm. You should be able to find one without the large injectors for $60-100 on ebay.

[brokenparts]

ok what is the difference between tunerpro and tunerpro rt?


are you tired of all my questions yet?

[sixty]

R/t does datalogging and emulating. The same stuff that the Whatsupdisplay does with the EBL, so that is why you only need standard tunerpro with the EBL. It may have some advantages for use with the EBL but I'm not sure what they are.

[brokenparts]

Originally Posted by sixty

R/t does datalogging and emulating. The same stuff that the Whatsupdisplay does with the EBL, so that is why you only need standard tunerpro with the EBL. It may have some advantages for use with the EBL but I'm not sure what they are.

Then what good are ya then?

Serioulsly though, thanks for being a good sport and helping me get pointed in the right direction.

[brokenparts]

Here's that guy's response with that 383..

"well too tell you the truth, i bought my buddys blazer and i know he put alot of money into this motor, and he moved and i cant get ahold of him, but it was in a blazer with 49 iroks, and it could burn them out easy, he gave me all the recipts but they dont say much on parts wish just work wish, so all i know its a badass motor thats why i am letting it go so cheap is because i dont know what parts were used so my lose your gain."

[sixty]

I figured it had to be something like that. He should have no problem letting you pull the pan to see what crank and rods are installed, then pull the valve covers and see if it has rollers, see if it has aftermarket heads (should be brand and model cast somewhere in the head) for $6k it should be full roller with ported aluminum heads, billet crank and forged pistons. Also pull the intake & see if there is porting work done on the heads. This should all take less than 30min and if there are good parts it may be worth it.

[Mace]

don't pull the intake
easy to identify the intake. Easy to identify the heads..

Pull the valve cover and the pan. $12.00 worth of gaskets max.. THat will tell you everything you need to know..

[Moby]

And of course if at all possible do a leakdown test on it. It could have a nice forged crank, Oliver rods, JE pistons... and a crap hone job.

[brokenparts]

you mentioned installing a vss. Is this necessary? If it is how are u going to about it?

[sixty]

The only reason I mentioned pulling the intake, was that it could have a set of mediocre heads ported to flow like a set of high dollar heads, althoug you may be able to see some porting on the exhaust side and assume the intake side was done as well.

For a VSS I am using a rostra speed control sensor with a magnetic pickup, $23 from summit. There are a few guys successfully using them over on the Binder Bulletin forum for TBI. you can get away without one but thew system runs better with it. I installed mine the other night but haven't got it working yet.

[Rusty55]

Originally Posted by sixty

couple more pics..., the 205 going together.

I just had my FJ55 with a homemade springover lift fixed by CADfabricating.com in Boise, Idaho he specializes in high steer systems and fixed my lift and put in and F-250 power steering box in for me for $900 very good job. I'll post some pictures as soon as I get it back in a couple days.

[Kristoffer]

Originally Posted by sixty

They want close to $500 for that knuckle and it only puts the drag link above the springs.... I'm going to look into making something similar to dana 44 arms.


tclndcrz, heres a pic of it on the side of a volcano at close to 12,000':

WTF? you went to MARS?

[sixty]

Originally Posted by Kristoffer

WTF? you went to MARS?

Yeah, the media kept calling it a a mars rover and I kept correcting them saying its a mars "cruiser"!

Mauna kea has some fun wheeling

[brokenparts]

alright he dropped the price again.... not sure I can help myself now. He's also agreed to let me pull the pan/covers and take a looking lue.

383 chevy stroker motor 450 hp! new price weekend only!

are ya tired of me jacking this thread yet?

[sixty]

No worries on the thread jack. Pull the pan and you should be able to see a brand casting on the crank as well as rods. For the original build price it should have full roller rockers also. I'll PM you my contact info if you want to call me if you decide to pull the pan.

[sixty]

A few pics of the progress. The exhaust is full mandrel bends.

[sixty]

a near finalized engine compartment shot... I still need to re-mount my York, build a shroud.

[sixty]

I've been working on the tuning, but it seems like I'm always chasing something else. I went for a run this evening and after 5 minutes the laptop battery dies and wouldn't charge from the inverter. Then It sprung a big oil leak from the mechanical guage connection at the block. Then I got it on the freeway and it wouldn't get out of second gear. After checking all the linkages and scratching my head, I realized the 205 was in low. Its been so long since I've driven it I forgot what 4low felt like!

I've tuned the idle to be very steady, you have to listen real close to tell there is a cam installed. The low midrange is pretty well tuned, but I need to log some more runs with varied throttle to get the tune down better, then I need to learn all of the fine points of a tuning with TBI. So far the EBL is pretty cool and learn pretty quickly with a wideband installed.

The engine definately feels more powerful than stock, I've got my fingers crossed that I'll be satisfied with the HP. My chipped Duramax has me spoiled!

[brokenparts]

damn, the exhaust is sexy... Keep up all the good work man, my TBI motor depends on it .

[sixty]

Thanks for the comment on the exhaust. I could have gone with a stainless magnaflow y-pipe for another $30 but I wanted something a little more compact. I could have made it even tighter and should have but I didn't think there would be enough room to weld. I have about 8 hours into the system but it was totally worth it.

The best part of doing your own exhaust is that you know exactly what needs to be accessed so you can route it perfectly. This exhuast is 10x better than the one I had professionally done.

[brokenparts]

Originally Posted by sixty

Thanks for the comment on the exhaust. I could have gone with a stainless magnaflow y-pipe for another $30 but I wanted something a little more compact. I could have made it even tighter and should have but I didn't think there would be enough room to weld. I have about 8 hours into the system but it was totally worth it.

The best part of doing your own exhaust is that you know exactly what needs to be accessed so you can route it perfectly. This exhuast is 10x better than the one I had professionally done.

Yeah, I left the exhaust to my local exhaust "experts" the first time around and now my driveline and self clearanced itself into the down pipe on the exhaust. Freakin morons.

[Tapage]

Originally Posted by Rusty55

put in and F-250 power steering box in for me for $900 very good job. I'll post some pictures as soon as I get it back in a couple days.

Hi Jack ..

Dude .. can you post here or in another thread ( or send those pics to tapage at 4x4panama.com )

I wanna see this instalation .. coz I'm dealing with a ram assist or another PS box ..

[sixty]

Originally Posted by Tapage

Hi Jack ..

Dude .. can you post here or in another thread ( or send those pics to tapage at 4x4panama.com )

I wanna see this instalation .. coz I'm dealing with a ram assist or another PS box ..

I think the stock 60 box is pretty good & maybe as good as the saginaw boxes. the stock 60 pumps are total junk in my opinion. I still have the stock box but have a saginaw pump off of TBI 350. My steering is 10X better than stock. I suggest getting rid of the stock pump (if you still have it) and getting a saginaw pump. They can also be easily boosted to support hydrosteer with the 60 box if you need more assist.

[brokenparts]

my hydrosteer with the ported 60 box and the saginaw pump (drilled out restrictor) works freakin great. I have ZERO problems moving my 39.5s from lock to lock at a dead stop locked up (not that I do this as a common practice).