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You realize this is the non turbo model that makes 65hp?
I just bought a turboed 3.3 from the same company. The turbo model on makes 85hp and 215ft/lbs stock.
Just a heads up
Oh, and if there ever was a doubt.. I found where he got that engine from in the first place (and he's a COMPLETE idiot for buying and selling the same items on eBay with the same username..):
eBay
I had spotted these on FleaBay back when they were selling them, and then had to remove them from consideration after a talk with CrewCab59, since the non-turbo is not actually able to be fully converted to turbo spec due to the lack of piston cooler jets. Believe me, I wish they'd have worked, because the place they came from is practically in my back yard here in Knoxville and would be perfect for what I'm getting ready to do to a 4Runner.
Attached is the pic of the data plate. And it's as we suspected. When he initially put his ad up here, he was using the pictures from the person that he bought it off of! Bad boy..
Overall timeline:
He purchased it on FleaBay Sep-09-09 12:55
Posted "For Sale" here 09-13-2009, 12:32 PM
Craigslist Ad shows up dated 2009-09-13, 12:33PM EDT
Posted "No Longer For Sale" here at 09-14-2009, 09:15 AM
Listed on Ebay for sale Sep 17, 2009, 07:54:28 AM PDT
Auction ended on Ebay Sep 21, 2009, 11:51:14 PDT w/o sale, but did get offers
Craigslist Ad still live as of now, uses pictures from the initial seller's eBay listing..
Item still shows on list of things "For Sale" over at Listmoto.com.
Just thought I'd put the "talking points" in an easy to access format in case someone wanted to send a little reply to Mr. Armstrong.
We just banned this guy from 4BTswaps.com for the same reason. Something stinks here. Here is the progression my moderators out together...
StrongCo it's that we caught you lying a few times that was the icing on the cake. You said "never mind, I decided to keep it" then listed it on Ebay and Craigslist almost immediately after, basically indicated "well, my deal was uncovered here, let me try somewhere else." It's that you came up with these completely arbitrary HP numbers when you are basically slapping one turbo off one engine on a non turbo engine (which I've done before myself - I know it works) to create the numbers, and there is no way to know what the HP numbers will be. And finally are the piston cooler jets mandatory? Probably not, but you can't get too much power beyond a little more than maybe 130, 150 hp out of it without them otherwise you risk damage to the engine. And that it took three evolutions of the turbo (first it was a HX35, HX30, and now a 25) to get it right in your ad. As the HX35 is the completely wrong turbo for the app (way too big, would produce maybe 8 lbs of boost) but you were still advertising it as the best thing since sliced bread, then started changing the listing of what the turbo is several times as it evolved closer to the correct turbo, that showed that you were being deceptive.
Basically it seemed like you were trolling for a sucker, someone uneducated, and someone to just trust you when you weren't even 100% aware of the specifics yourself. I even fell for it in the beginning and sent the engine listing to someone I trust as a retrofit into their Ford Ranger. Yes, it makes me look like a jackass too. That, and that you basically seemed to be using our site for commerce only without actually adding anything. Which you can probably tell from our rules (30 days, 10 posts before you can sell something) rubs us and pretty much any community the wrong way.
And secondly, as it appears to be the 'business' you are in in (all be it not in any sort of large volume way) both this site as well as ours asks that people doing commerce for income (aka businesses, small and large) pay a fee to do it. It's only $100 in our case and we noticed it and you eons ago but let it slide so we could let you test the waters and see if our community would make sense and/or be a fit for you. Just like they are doing here.
Seriously good luck to you. No harm intended but you have to be much sharper to sell these products and expect much more from your customers as they are intelligent and deserve it. I don't doubt that it is a good deal -- as it is. But the misleading sales and tactics burned your bridges.
And finally, this is no witch hunt. This site is my home and I have been here a long long time - years longer than 4BTswaps.com has even existed. It is a much smaller world than you think, so one more thing to keep in mind.
The price you were asking is not at issue. I say all the market will bear +10% is fine, if you can get it! In fact, even knowing exactly what it is you have for sale, I'd still call it a fair deal.
And that you might have decided to not sell isn't the problem, either. Your prerogative.
....... ensued.
Again - I am new to the Forum and quite frankly new to Toyota's so never joined ih8mud years ago...
Glad you can count my posts... but not sure I see the point unless I was violating some rules about number of posts which I do not think I was (open to being corrected though)?
AGAIN NONE OF ANYONES BUSINESS HOW< WHEN > WHY I SELL THINGS>>>>
Regarding, Pig's in Pokes, cats in bags, Marsellus Wallace or any other fictional characters again - not sure I am seeing any connection...
I am not a business
So your claim(s) is I was deceptively selling quality fairly priced parts... make sense to me.