[Lil'John]

For those that have had their headliner in and out, how much does the stock headliner hang down from the roof?

Or better known as how much room is available under the headliner?

Just wondering if there is any chance of squeezing a cage under a headliner.

[hicruise55]

Cool idea! If you used a small OD tubing you might be able to fit a halo with some crossbars, but it will be just that... how would you tie it into the frame/solid flooring? To answer the question I would have to look for sure? I wouldn't think you would be able to fit more than 1" OD? It would still be better than stock though!?

When I finally do mine it will be an external halo with bars that come down to the lower windshield area and in the back to the rear bumper/quarterpanel protection, then some mounts on the gutters. I slide my roofline on the trees a lot up here

[Lil'John]

The idea would be to have the legs of the cage come out through the headliner... have the upholstery shop do some sort of "fancy" snap/hole setup where the legs go through.

But my curiosity is how much room is there really.

My problem is that I'm real close to scraping the headliner now when I'm in my seat. So I can't loose too much room up above without chancing head injury.

Ideally, I'd love to fit some 1.5" DOM tubing up there.

Just mulling ideas over right now.

[LC_Hamma]

There are about 6 small rods that tighten the headliner that go crossways & connect right where my cage sits. I don't think you can fit some 1.5" tube w/o doing some type of custom liner. I think mine's about as tight to the body as you can get it. I had to design my cage thinking about getting full welds around all the tubes.

[Lil'John]

Don at FCFab has a VERY slick method for getting cages beyond a tight fit

He basically cuts tube sized holes in the floor. He then "drops" the cage through the floor so he can fully weld the cage up. He then jacks the cage up, cuts the tube, and then welds the cage feet plates in.

VERY bad description I know... but the point is he can get the cage within 1/2" to 1/4" of the roof

As I said, I don't know what type of clearance I have above the headliner. So right now, I'm just trying to see what I can do.

[LC_Hamma]

Yeah, that's a good I started my cage by building outriggers off the frame & holesaw thru the floor. I didn't use plates but fully welded to the outriggers. I only had difficulty welding near the windshield, but I beefed that area so no worries there. I think the only way you're going to make it work is if you applied your liner directly to the roof somehow.

[Lil'John]

Okay... I did the hi-tech measurement of headliner gap: aka push a 16 gauge nail through the liner until I hit metal

I measured out about 1" in the middle

Guess I need to check my head clearance again.