Best Fender Repair Thread?

PabloCruise · 09-09-09, 01:34 PM

Can anyone point me to their favorite threads that detail the anatomy of Pig front fender repair?

I know I saw a great thread that discussed why Pig fenders rust where they do and what you can do to fix the problem before repairing the holes in the sheetmetal.

Can you all help me out as I plan on how to fix my front fenders?

PS: I am writing about my '74 Pig - driver's side is worse than passenger side.

PabloCruise · 09-09-09, 02:14 PM

PS: Can anyone tell me what color that is on my Pig?

Would a '74 have a color code on the VIN plate under the hood?

jsaltlick · 09-09-09, 02:24 PM

Yeah, I couldn't find the color code on mine anywhere either. I'd be interested in the repair thread too.

PabloCruise · 09-09-09, 02:55 PM

Basic Search for Fender in the title pulls this:

IH8MUD.com - Search Results

PabloCruise · 09-09-09, 05:25 PM

SO far I think k9crazy has the best pics, but they do not detail the inner channel at the bottom of the fender:

http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj55-iron-pi...king-fj55.html

romegadave · 09-09-09, 06:42 PM

Pablo,

I wonder if the Gumby's 1973 FJ55 Buildup thread would be of use to you?? Sorry I have to learn how to link one of these days-Dave

eventhough · 09-09-09, 06:52 PM

Fenders are pretty easy to fix. Ehsan and Rare Spares out of Australia make patches. I've heard that both fit well and I think both include the bottom curve.

I didn't need the bottom curve b/c of my sliders so I just used 16 ga sheet. I think k9 and I did the same thing on hers. Mine cam out nicely and I didn't even use any bondo.

For the sliders you most often need to cut out what is there and weld in replacements. IPOR makes nice, stock looking, replacements and also nice sliders that you weld in in place of the rusted out ones.

Check out page 9 of my build thread for how I fixed my fenders.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj55-iron-pi...n-beast-9.html

PabloCruise · 09-10-09, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PabloCruise

Basic Search for Fender in the title pulls this:

IH8MUD.com - Search Results

Oops! For some reason my link is dead now.

IH8MUD.com - Search Results

PabloCruise · 09-10-09, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eventhough

Fenders are pretty easy to fix. Ehsan and Rare Spares out of Australia make patches. I've heard that both fit well and I think both include the bottom curve.

I didn't need the bottom curve b/c of my sliders so I just used 16 ga sheet. I think k9 and I did the same thing on hers. Mine cam out nicely and I didn't even use any bondo.

For the sliders you most often need to cut out what is there and weld in replacements. IPOR makes nice, stock looking, replacements and also nice sliders that you weld in in place of the rusted out ones.

Check out page 9 of my build thread for how I fixed my fenders.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj55-iron-pi...n-beast-9.html

Thanks for pointing me towards your repairs...

Do you mind if I shamelessly link to your repair pics?

From: IH8MUD.com - View Single Post - The Resurection of 'The Beast'

PabloCruise · 09-10-09, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eventhough

Fenders are pretty easy to fix. Ehsan and Rare Spares out of Australia make patches. I've heard that both fit well and I think both include the bottom curve.

I didn't need the bottom curve b/c of my sliders so I just used 16 ga sheet. I think k9 and I did the same thing on hers. Mine cam out nicely and I didn't even use any bondo.

For the sliders you most often need to cut out what is there and weld in replacements. IPOR makes nice, stock looking, replacements and also nice sliders that you weld in in place of the rusted out ones.

Check out page 9 of my build thread for how I fixed my fenders.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj55-iron-pi...n-beast-9.html

So a follow on to your post - I agree that it does look relatively easy to repair.

What I want to tap into from the Collective Pig Conscious Mind (CPCM?) is the WHY, or what causes the rust problem at the bottoms?

Is there anything I can incorporate in my repairs that will remove rust concerns for the future? Granted, CO is fairly dry state, but I want to pass this Pig on to my boy someday...

PabloCruise · 09-10-09, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by romegadave

Pablo,

I wonder if the Gumby's 1973 FJ55 Buildup thread would be of use to you?? Sorry I have to learn how to link one of these days-Dave

Jackpot!

Thanks for the pointer to Gumby's work.

From here: http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj55-iron-pi...ml#post1734545

Post #22

Post #26 describes some of the causes of the rot:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gumby

#1 before blasting on the rs fender
#2 before blasting on the inside
#3 inside of the repair on the ls fender. I'm going to do something different with the brace where it comes down on the curve. The stock way leaves a pocket for gunk to fill up and rot out the fender. I think I may just double up the curve and leave the end of the channel open for drainage.

PabloCruise · 09-10-09, 09:32 AM

New question: Where or what does the top of this inner channel connect to?

eventhough · 09-10-09, 09:32 AM

Mud gets trapped between the fender sheet metal (outer) and metal support rib (inner) creating rust. Some of my pics I think in my thread show all the dirt falling out.

And link away!

This really was an easy repair and I'm a

mechanic. If you need the curve buy the replacements from Ehsan or Rare Spares. Trace the replacement on the fender, cut the rust out, then weld the replacement in and I don't think you even have to worry about the inner support b/c the replacements are thick enough.

PabloCruise · 09-10-09, 09:36 AM

Thanks!

Is there a feed at the top of the channel that puts mud and water in there?

I think TrollHole has some fender anatomy pics as well?

Lil'John · 09-10-09, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PabloCruise

PS: Can anyone tell me what color that is on my Pig?

Would a '74 have a color code on the VIN plate under the hood?

That appears to be nebula like mine.

Trollhole · 09-10-09, 10:13 AM

This is the sheetmetal Rare Spares carries.

Honestly I went through this all a while back but it's been a while since I messed with it. I ended up geting a set of mint fenders and not having to do the patches. I do know someone who has a set of NOS fenders. Maybe I can convince him to post some pictures of how they looked from the factory. If not I can snap a few pics of mine.

eventhough · 09-10-09, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollhole

I ended up geting a set of mint fenders and not having to do the patches.

Yes you did!

PabloCruise · 09-10-09, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollhole

This is the sheetmetal Rare Spares carries.

Honestly I went through this all a while back but it's been a while since I messed with it. I ended up geting a set of mint fenders and not having to do the patches. I do know someone who has a set of NOS fenders. Maybe I can convince him to post some pictures of how they looked from the factory. If not I can snap a few pics of mine.

Thanks Marshall!

Is your Pig Rustic Green?

Trollhole · 09-10-09, 11:25 AM

yes
..

eventhough · 09-10-09, 11:47 AM

Its too bad the Rare Spares rear quarter patches don't include the rear bend...

PabloCruise · 09-10-09, 12:16 PM

How much were the Rare Spares fender patches? They had to ship from NZ, no?

Trollhole · 09-10-09, 06:14 PM

About 45 each. Shipping for all 4 was around 80 I think.

https://rsp-secure.com/rarespares/de...el=LANDCRUISER

nuclearlemon · 09-10-09, 06:57 PM

for color, nebula, direct from my 74 toyota dealer manual.

for repair panels, a junk pig with decent rear quarters. the bent section where the white meets the lower colored area almost matches that angle. i've got a test piece done, just got to get it welded on.