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07-09-09, 12:25 PM
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Why not a Pig??
This is just a feeler to garnish information. I currently have a 3B/H55 with A/C and PS and want to swap it into a new vehicle. There are 60s and 80s that I could do, but would love a family pig. I have been tried to be talked out of it because parts are hard(impossible to find and it would be a major undertaking.
Whatever vehicle I get I really want to do a frame up rebuild before sinking the motor. I figured I would go to this forum for the answers. I don't think mechanical parts would be as difficult because I would use everything from the BJ. Don't I basically need a rolling frame and pretty good body? Overall, how noisy are they on the road? Is this swap even possible?
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07-09-09, 12:45 PM
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they're a little more noisy than the 60 series, but if you plan on restoing, you can put in sound deadener. the worst part will be the body work. body parts either aren't available or are expensive. you pretty much have to learn to make your own panels. for uniqueness, you can't get any better. 
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07-09-09, 01:13 PM
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I kinda second Igge. Uber-cool, but such coolness comes with complications, added expense, and at some point, some unsurmountable disadvantages.
I don't think a 3B/H55F combo will hold well on an 80, that's too heavy a pig (no pun intended) to really make that combo work, it would be much more at home in a 55.
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07-09-09, 01:55 PM
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Given all the unobtainium on a pig and the associated costs, it can be VERY daunting and costly.
As an example, new rubber for the windows can cost you upwards of $2k. That is JUST the rubber  That doesn't include the rubber that holds windows in which as far as I know, there is no current source for that 
With that said, I picked a pig over an FJ80 and I am loving it. Even with all the hassles of finding parts and restoring parts.
Best bet is to try to find a pig with a solid body and as complete as possible.
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07-09-09, 02:08 PM
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I thought you could get cargo window and windshield window rubber from Slocruisers?
SLOCRUISERS : Windshield Rubber
Lee
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07-09-09, 02:43 PM
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Those are holding the windows onto the body. I mean the little rubber that holds the window in the channel As far as I know, there was only one run made for both the doors and tailgate. Haven't seen another run proposed yet.
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07-09-09, 03:11 PM
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i dont have much to add from all the above,,, its a fine project as long as you know what your getting into. a 55 can be built to equal any 80's era vehicle for noise and comfort, but its gonna take some work, time and money. if your good with that then i say go for it.
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07-09-09, 03:39 PM
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As someone who is still in the deconstruction phase of a full resto, I couldnt agree more with you RHINO,
Li'l John- I hope my rubber is still intact or I guess Im screwed. 
I think you have to be passionate about bringing the pig back to life for it to happen. 
lee
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Last edited by Lee777; 07-09-09 at 03:42 PM.
Reason: emoticons
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07-09-09, 03:59 PM
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a lot of stuff can be worked around. the pig w/s thread talks about all kinds of aftermarket w/s that can be used. there are tar tapes that will work to hold the glass in the channel if your rubber is bad. people have modded 70 series mirrors to work in place of the crackprone stockers.
you learn to be inventive with a pig.
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07-09-09, 11:06 PM
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Forum Lifer
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You mean something along the lines of my '55 http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj55-iron-pi...guatemala.html ? Granted I don't have PS or the H55 tranny but other than that it's as you describe.
Let me know if I can answer any questions.
Currently I'm working on a 3B/H41 swap into an FJ45LV c/w A/C. That is alot tougher to find parts for than an FJ55.
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07-10-09, 01:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee777
As someone who is still in the deconstruction phase of a full resto, I couldnt agree more with you RHINO,
Li'l John- I hope my rubber is still intact or I guess Im screwed.
I think you have to be passionate about bringing the pig back to life for it to happen.
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Hey Lee, hows that pig treating you?
Dan
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07-10-09, 02:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nuclearlemon
you learn to be inventive with a pig. |
haha aint it the truth....
i was gonna plug your rig cruiser guy but i figured you'd do a better job since its yours.
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07-10-09, 03:22 PM
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In my experience, it's been harder to find parts for the pigs than for the 45LV.
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07-14-09, 04:33 PM
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Yep, you need to be inventive to do a Pig, but it sure is rewarding.
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