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07-18-06, 02:45 PM
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Guppie's FJ55 Build Thread
Ok, so decided to start a thread on my new build. I have been into landcruisers for awhile and own a 73 fj40 which has been worked on since I was 17 and bought it (now 33). I have learned alot building it and hope to use some of this knowledge on this new project.
I have always admired the "Pigs", so I decided to find one and build it up. I was fortunate enough to find a very clean 1970 FJ55 out of Arizona. It was a guys project that he had basically taken apart, bought a bunch of parts for (several years worth) and then decided not to build it up. The deal worked out well as it included all the original weatherstripping (oem) and a boatload of other parts, original and aftermarket. So far, I have very little into the project, so this is a good start.
THE PLANS: I plan to keep it toyota. Not a complete specific restoration yet a rebuild with all new parts and some modern upgrades, but fairly close to stock. It will have a 2F stock drivetrain, 2.5 inch ironman lift (already have), stock diffs, PS (minitruck), all terrain bfg tires, Front axle disc (minitruck), Rear chevy discs, original interior with herculined floor (maybe?), bench seats redone to factory specs, what else?, probably forgot something.....
THE USAGE: This is basically a toy and will not be an offroad vehicle. It is not a daily driver and I already have a DD and an FJ40 wheeler. Some minor offroading in the desert with the family (middle willows/anza borrego is my favorite) but beyond that 95% street and to the beach, store, desert, julian trips, etc.
I plan to take my time on this one as there really is no rush. In the past it seems I have always had a reason to RUSH. NOT HERE! For once, I want to enjoy the "journey". That means taking one chunk at a time and walking away for awhile when I need to. I plan to try to do everything in house in my 2 car garage. The only thing that is up in the air now is whether i will do the paint and body work myself. I am leaning towards "yes" as I think it would be a good skill to have for future builds and I would really like to make this a full time hobby restoring vehicles. Plus, in the long run the skill should save me a buttload of $$. I also don't need perfect paint as the truck will be used and not just sit in a garage.
So that's about it for now, I will update this post every so often. If you have any questions, ask away. I know most of the talk here is for the FJ40's but I think we need a little more "pork" in this forum, plus it's the "other white meat".
Here's a pic of what I started with, basically a shell and a pile of parts. The dash area was a pain to take apart and the body bolts and steering linkage was even more fun. 100+ heat in the garage and I am sitting there with a torch and a BFH and some PBblaster, lots of fun!
Noah
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07-18-06, 02:53 PM
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some more pics, after the teardown and the marking of the spots on the body (green paint) that need some work. I went over the whole body last weekend and was happy to find that on ly a few areas had bad rust, the rest of the upper areas of the body are nice and already have had a bunch of body work done. Some bondo, but not bad, not thick, just to smooth out some dents and the metal is good underneath. It seems that the previous owner sent the body out to be worked on before it came to me.
Noah
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07-18-06, 02:56 PM
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Some final pics of where I am at now. I am going to purchase a pressure washer this week and clean it up before having some friends (hopefully) help pull the cab this Sunday.....
Noah
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07-18-06, 02:57 PM
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some pics of the "shop", that's it.........
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07-18-06, 03:12 PM
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Good to see another project being started. Keep the pics coming, but you already know that.
I agree with the taking of your time for this, kinda wished i had slowed down a bit on mine. But it was a good time, for the most part, just not the sanding.
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07-18-06, 05:15 PM
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Alright!!!! Can't wait to watch your FJ55 build.
OINK,
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07-24-06, 11:09 PM
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This is one great project...
I like that you are keeping it "all toyota"
and building it a piece at a time in your driveway....
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07-25-06, 09:13 AM
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I'll be watching this threading wishing I had the room (and the Pig) to do a similar build up.
I have to agree I love the keeping it all Toyota. That's what makes a Pig a Pig.
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07-25-06, 01:59 PM
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Thanks Guys! Yeah, I am excited about it. I have to do it on a budget, yeah right,  but it should be fun. I actually feel like a king having a garage and tools. The FJ40 got rebuilt on a slab of concrete, outside, in my apartment parking space. Nothin like a notice from the city that they are gonna tow your junk to get you motivated. Think outside at 3am with floodlights every night working on the cruiser, that sucked, but I was happy with the way it came out. Much nicer to have a garage to do this one though. Not much progress lately, I am a wimp, but it is just too damn hot, and like I said I want to enjoy this build, that means no working on it in a garage that is *110 plus. Anyhow, will post up when I tear into it some more, will probably be another month. Next step will be to power wash it and remove the body from the frame, then frame cleanup and mount rebuilt axles and new suspension kit.
Some pics below of the FJ40 rebuild on theat forementioned slab of concrete, my neighbors loved me!  screw em.
** PS - for those guys interested in possible metaltech FJ55 rollbar kits see my post in the 55 restoration section! I plan to post it up later today.
Noah
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07-30-06, 08:14 PM
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made a little progress / not much
thankfully I was able to get some friends over today to help pull the body off of the project and onto some stands. Powerwashed everything, including the frame. Next step will be to clean up the frame, paint, redo axles and hang the axles and new supsension. To my surprise, everything fit nicely in the garage with plenty of room to maneuver.
Noah
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07-30-06, 08:16 PM
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a few more pics........
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09-01-06, 09:51 PM
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Great Project, congrats.
I plan to do a pig also but I am worried about availability of parts specially body parts, I see your is very clean, but do you thing there will be body parts around if needed?
Also why is this called a pig?
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09-01-06, 10:09 PM
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Great Project, congrats.
I plan to do a pig also but I am worried about availability of parts specially body parts, I see your is very clean, but do you thing there will be body parts around if needed?
Also why is this called a pig?
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the lights look like a piggy
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09-01-06, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Panama-fj40
Great Project, congrats.
I plan to do a pig also but I am worried about availability of parts specially body parts, I see your is very clean, but do you thing there will be body parts around if needed?
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Thanks for the post, they are called pigs from what i know because they are heavy and ugly, I think they are awesome looking though. Yes, parts are hard to find, especially body panels. They are around though. Got the frame all cleaned up and will be painting it this weekend. Will post up some pics soon.
Noah
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09-01-06, 11:36 PM
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All Toyota huh?
Rear chevy discs
C'mon purist, don't ruin the all "Toyota" theme! Good job finding a rust free PIG from AZ. So, your front fenders, rear qtrs. & rockers should be free of rust....
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09-02-06, 08:51 AM
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Thanks for the post, they are called pigs from what i know because they are heavy and ugly, I think they are awesome looking though. Noah
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not to hijack, but to provide some context to this wonderful build:
Why "Iron Pig"?
"Picture a long, wide mud pit... you know what I'm talking about. The kind of pit filled with stinky, black, chunky mud the consistency of a thick stew... the smell of rotting vegetation is in the air, horseflies and dragonflies buzz overhead, and an old swaybacked cow chews its cud contentedly at the edge of the water, swinging its tail slowly as the morning dew dissipates and the sun dries a thin layer of the mud, deceiving you, beckoning...
"In the middle of this long, wide mud pit, wallowing contentedly, is a rare beast. Its weight draws it deeper into the mud, but somehow it is still moving, slowly, ever so slowly... its form hints at its strength, yet it moves with a certain grace that seems impossible for its bulk... nothing about this beast is delicate, and yet it possesses a strange beauty, a sense of timeless appeal.... you feel slightly repulsed, yet strangely attracted... you can sense its feral nature, its danger, but you can tell that this beast is somehow noble, a true master of its environment...
"Is it a wild boar, or a Cape buffalo? Perhaps a scarred old African bull elephant?...
No, the noble beast that has captivated your attention and perhaps your heart is a Toyota Land Cruiser FJ55, and now you know why those who of us in the know, those of an enlightened nature, those of us who believe call it an "Iron Pig". It is a sign of respect, of admiration, a fitting tribute...
By Henry Cubillan
Sweet build of another Iron Pig!
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09-02-06, 09:01 AM
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Build is lookin real good
How ya gonna paint the frame??
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09-02-06, 10:43 AM
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Umm can we add this quote to the FAQ for future reference?
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not to hijack, but to provide some context to this wonderful build:
Why "Iron Pig"?
"Picture a long, wide mud pit... you know what I'm talking about. The kind of pit filled with stinky, black, chunky mud the consistency of a thick stew... the smell of rotting vegetation is in the air, horseflies and dragonflies buzz overhead, and an old swaybacked cow chews its cud contentedly at the edge of the water, swinging its tail slowly as the morning dew dissipates and the sun dries a thin layer of the mud, deceiving you, beckoning...
"In the middle of this long, wide mud pit, wallowing contentedly, is a rare beast. Its weight draws it deeper into the mud, but somehow it is still moving, slowly, ever so slowly... its form hints at its strength, yet it moves with a certain grace that seems impossible for its bulk... nothing about this beast is delicate, and yet it possesses a strange beauty, a sense of timeless appeal.... you feel slightly repulsed, yet strangely attracted... you can sense its feral nature, its danger, but you can tell that this beast is somehow noble, a true master of its environment...
"Is it a wild boar, or a Cape buffalo? Perhaps a scarred old African bull elephant?...
No, the noble beast that has captivated your attention and perhaps your heart is a Toyota Land Cruiser FJ55, and now you know why those who of us in the know, those of an enlightened nature, those of us who believe call it an "Iron Pig". It is a sign of respect, of admiration, a fitting tribute...
By Henry Cubillan
Sweet build of another Iron Pig!
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09-02-06, 10:54 AM
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painting the frame today, got to get the F out there in the garage! Using zerorust paint. finished stripping the frame yesterday, wet sand, tsp, prep step, in that order, came out fairly clean. Was going to shoot it with the new gun I got from harbor freight but think I will just use a paintbrush. Project is going slow, but oh well, gonna take my time like I said. Will update soon once I have a painted frame and rolling chasis. thanks for the comments.
and that pig explanation is just awesome.
Noah
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09-02-06, 11:06 AM
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Always a soft spot for a FJ55, you never see those rigs up here....
That is one clean ass starting point, nice body.
Do you think that was the original colour??
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Some final pics of where I am at now. I am going to purchase a pressure washer this week and clean it up before having some friends (hopefully) help pull the cab this Sunday.....
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09-02-06, 11:17 AM
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thanks! not sure of the original color, I am torn between doing the freeborn red / white or smurf blue / white. I am leaning towards smurf blue just cuz it is so retro of a color. The body isn't as clean as it looks but yes for a pig it is very clean. The guy before me took it mostly all apart and had the body sent out for bodywork, so much of it is already done. Some of the original stickers were on many of the interior parts and most of it came apart easily with little or no corrosion on the bolts. There are some areas or rust where I will need to do some bodywork and metal replacement and this will take time as I am just learning in this area (body work) but have decided to tackle it myself. Hopefully the outcome will be a good one, I think it will if I take the time to learn and do it right.
Noah
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09-05-06, 10:58 PM
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An Update
Well, here's an update. Got the frame scrubed down, sanded and zerorusted, came out great, very happy with it. I wish though now I had just somehow sent the frame out to be sandblasted, many hours of wire wheeling,  . Before painting I welded up some bad areas on the frame and cut out a bunch of crap from the PO where they tried to make a towing hitch. Also, 2 of the rivets had been cut down on one side so I decided to lay a weld down to reinforce where the rivet attaches. Slowly moving along, I think I will get more excited once I have the rebuilt axles with discs on the clean frame. Here is some pics, my next post I have a bunch of questions on the rear axle and conversion, so if anyone can help please do. I will ask them here first and if I don't find the answers I will probably start an individual post. Thanks! Noah
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more pics
a few more.......
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09-05-06, 11:26 PM
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Questions! Need Help
So I will post up some pics and try to be as clear as mud with my questions,
REAR DISC CONVERSION
I am going with the usual GM rear disc setup and think I have all the facts after doing some searching but a few q's come to mind:
?? - I am going with an H55 tranny / TC combo in the FJ55 because of the 5 speed. Does the TC on this combo have the same rear emergency brake as the fj40? I believe I read that it does not and uses the common linkage to the caliper for an emergency brake. When going with GM rear discs I could not find a solution to implement an e brake?
I have heard others mention a "line lock". I believe I understand what a line lock is that it basically uses the standard braking system to lock the brakes on, correct? where does one get one of these and are they all electric or are there hydraulic ones as well? Are they safe to use as an ebrake? I think I would feel better using a hydraulic one rather than an electric one, just seems more reliable to me.
I also saw that JTO or another supplier ? has rear calipers with the e brake mechanism on them BUT they are very expensive and I just don't have the budget now, so I am looking for a solution that is reasonably priced. I saw a post that POSER put rear calipers with the ebrake mechanism on but could not figure out the linkage to get it to work right?
What are my options and what do you reccomend for a solution?
?? - Am wondering if anyone sells just the milled rotors for the GM rear disc conversion? I already have the brackets from the previous owner and could get them milled at a machine shop but for a few extra $ I would not mind just ordering a set that are pre-milled.
REAR AXLE QUESTIONS
?? - I have inspected the differential and attached a pic of my pinion gear where you can see if you look closely the chip in one of the gears? Is this a fatal problem or can I just run this as is? If it is not a big deal I will just run it but wanted to get some opinions as to issues I may run into because of this small chip in the gear tooth. The rest of the gears look fine. I have attached a pic of the splines on the axles as well as the ring gear, what does everyone think of the shape of these? What should you look for when inspecting gears on a rear differential?
?? - I also inspected the pinion bearing and don't see anything obvious. I have no idea how long it has been in the diff as I bought the project as is. Is it reccomended that I replace this and the rear pinion seal or should I leave it alone? The rear pinion was not leaking at all from what I could tell. I suppose if I have to replace the pinion gear this is a mute question. Any opinions appreciated?
?? - When I pulled the rear axles and c clips the spider gears fell out, 4 of them. I see how they fit back in but was wondering if there is any specific way that they need to be placed back in? or can you just place them back in as best as possible and align them with the axles when you slip them in?
?? - What is the best way to install new rear axle bearings? I was thinking of freezing them and then installing them in the rear axle to help them shrink a bit. I have a seal/bearing driver kit. If I do put them in the freezer should they be packed with grease before hand? this way they can go in right away while still cool. I am sure my wife won't mind some axle grease on the frozen lunch meat,
Sorry for the long post, any help is appreciated!!
Noah
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09-05-06, 11:30 PM
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question pics
some more question pics.....
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09-06-06, 10:57 AM
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bump, can anyone help with the questions?? guess I will have to start a seperate post.....
Noah
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Noah,
Cool post and always cool to see a 55 gettin done!!!
As for the H55f you can find the ebrake set up ....can't remember where I saw it last but try the 60 section...I had the tranny in my 60 for a while and really liked it..then went 350 power and auto...
As for disk brakes it really is not a big deal to rig the ebrake cable...again look at the 60 series section lost of great info there..in fact there is an ongoing thread about that very question right now.
Now for my question where did you get the saw horses that your body is sittin on?? I am going to be doing a 60 body swap this winter an dthey look lik ethey work well..
Thanks Tim
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Thanks Tim! The saw horses I got at Home Depot, $20 a pop, they are beefy BUT I will need to lower them a bit and reinforce them with some 2x4 wood beams from end to end because they rock a bit side to side, one I reinforce though it should be a nice platform to work on. I just didn't want to worry about the body falling when I am inside the truck moving around. They are rated at 2k pounds per pair.
Noah
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not an expert but:
aren't the DB e-brake only on Monte Carlo or el dorado DB's? I found this
The rear bearings I replaced have reset easily with a socket and light mallet...
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I wouldn't put that 3rd in a trail truck much less something nice. Your better off finding one out of the front axle on another cruiser. (they are less used) Can be had for under 200. Might be worth going to a fine spline pinion.
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