3 days and 3300 miles later

buckroseau · 08-08-06, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Matt, a few years back another land Cruiser guy had only a frame and box for a fj45,,not sure of condition but I could try to contact him. Possibly you could graft on rear section of frame. Dave in Spokane I sent you pictures about a year ago when you were looking for bezel/headlight assembly for your wagon, Just sold my FJ45 long bed to Dukes in Wyoming... Dave

PM sent

buckroseau · 08-08-06, 09:17 AM

On a side note....

Does anyone know if theres a company that makes buck rivets and a tool to install like the OEM Toyota ones in the frame?

I know they have buck rivets that you hammer in (which might have to work), but wondering if anyone has seen anything else?

Thanks, Matt

TJDIV · 08-08-06, 11:34 AM

bugger.

haven't been in the 45 forum cause you've been slacking.

looks like I'll be checking in more often.

1tontoy · 08-08-06, 12:22 PM

Heck yeah! Congrats!

I have a back half of a 45 lwb frame that is in good condition. It was modified to be a trailer. If interested, feel free to PM me. I was going to make it into a bandeirante double cab.

pjohnson · 08-08-06, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Landpimp

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I was never under the impression that the 45LPB used a streched frame, I thought they had their own unique frame. I just don't see Toyota saying........."hey,lets cut this in half and add a foot or so" but i might be wrong

When I was crawling around the underside of my newly aquired 1966 FJ45L-PB (LWB?), I noticed a large splice in the frame. Identical on both sides, located at the rear tub mount where the frame slopes upward. It was like a perfectly formed C-channel that fit perfectly. There were factory rivets in it, welds on the edges and the body mount was also riveted on. That all makes me think it was factory.

I didn't get a pic

But I will when I get a chance this weekend.

Phil

cruiser ken · 08-08-06, 02:52 PM

Pimp, I'm just going off memory of some pics that I believe Jack Rice had posted early on in his truggy build that showed a spliced frame. I tried searching POR but I don't have a star there anymore. I think at some point they quit putting the splice in and had a long frame. I don't recall a splice on my troopie.

buckroseau · 08-08-06, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 1tontoy

Heck yeah! Congrats!

I have a back half of a 45 lwb frame that is in good condition. It was modified to be a trailer. If interested, feel free to PM me. I was going to make it into a bandeirante double cab.

Very interested and PM sent, might be exactly what I am looking for?

Thanks, Matt

Rhinoliner · 08-08-06, 03:58 PM

Mine has a splice on both sides of the inner frame at about the halfway point. They both look like this:

buckroseau · 08-08-06, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhinoliner

Mine has a splice on both sides of the inner frame at about the halfway point. They both look like this:

Mine has that also on the innerside, but no splice on the outside. My lwb is a 76.....if that matters.

From what I see on SOR's site, 65 to 78 frames are the same?

Matt

pbgbottle · 08-08-06, 11:37 PM

from Minnesota to B.C holy smokes man . wish i new about those rigs i've wanted a 45 for a few years now .would of been all over that ,great find . ya us Canadians always fib about the rust . everything here has rust . .

Radd Cruisers · 08-09-06, 12:09 AM

Wow, now that is a serious road trip.

To bad its so bad on the frame, I was told a rust free frame is not far from me, however I have never gone to look at it.

There is a little island just of Vancouver island(notice I never said which one) that has a 45 in the thorn bushes, might go up this summer and pull the vin numbers and see who owns if anybody.

Good catch Mat.

Rob

tommyt · 08-09-06, 12:28 AM

Yes it's Toyota, How lucky are you.

pbgbottle · 08-09-06, 07:56 AM

I noticed . guess i'll have to get my zodiac out and hunt it down .YA right .you better go get it .will have to come over and check your shop out one day .what island ?

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Originally Posted by Radd Cruisers

Wow, now that is a serious road trip.

To bad its so bad on the frame, I was told a rust free frame is not far from me, however I have never gone to look at it.

There is a little island just of Vancouver island(notice I never said which one) that has a 45 in the thorn bushes, might go up this summer and pull the vin numbers and see who owns if anybody.

Good catch Mat.

Rob

swilson · 08-09-06, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pjohnson

When I was crawling around the underside of my newly aquired 1966 FJ45L-PB (LWB?), I noticed a large splice in the frame. Identical on both sides, located at the rear tub mount where the frame slopes upward. It was like a perfectly formed C-channel that fit perfectly. There were factory rivets in it, welds on the edges and the body mount was also riveted on. That all makes me think it was factory.

I didn't get a pic

But I will when I get a chance this weekend.

Phil

Here ya go Phil... found this photo in this thread... http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj45-owners-club/53893-nother-45-build-resto-thread-2.html

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Landpimp · 08-09-06, 07:41 PM

truely didn't mean fib/lie.......but just a different perception of what rust is then folks south of the border.........up north....... if ya cant put your fist thru the body/frame.......its rust free

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Originally Posted by pbgbottle

from Minnesota to B.C holy smokes man . wish i new about those rigs i've wanted a 45 for a few years now .would of been all over that ,great find . ya us Canadians always fib about the rust . everything here has rust . .

Radd Cruisers · 08-10-06, 12:16 AM

Not to steal the thread, but John has a point with BC cruisers and double for the ones that run up to the ski destinations, lotsa salt on those roads.

Alberta is pretty darn dry in the summer and more north they have pretty cold almost dry winters, so I have found thier cruisers to be in much better shape. Although every cruiser is different when it comes to rust.

Rob

cruiser_guy · 08-10-06, 09:03 AM

Matt, not sure if you're interested but if the troopies and the LWB pickups share the same frame I might be able to find a solid frame at the wreckers in Guatemala. There are three troopies there, none of which are restoration candidates, except maybe by you, but I think the frames are probably fine judging from the frame under my BJ60 that came from a Honduran wrecker. There are pic's of my '60 frame here http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=427623 just so you know that this Canadian HAS seen rust free frames and can tell the difference!!

Shipping can get pricey but I don't know what connections you have in that department.

I have been watching for the '45 pickup for you here in Guatemala but they are not common in the city and I have yet to see one for sale or at the wrecker (lot's of BJ40's at the wrecker as well as the three troopies, a couple of '55's and even a picked apart '75 pickup that got squashed which is why it's at the wrecker.

Do you have any left overs from the LV? I still need several parts. My updated list is here http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj45-classifieds-corner/40358-needed-67-fj45lv-wagon.html

rutbeer · 08-20-06, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by swilson

Here ya go Phil... found this photo in this thread... http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=53893&page=2

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Yup, that is exactly what my 66 looks like. That's what I was trying to post on your other thread, but it was too dark and my frame is already black.

It's clearly a factory joint, but no telling if they did away with that later on.
Will you be talking with lomousass about body parts, or fabbing all your own?

rutbeer · 08-20-06, 04:55 PM

Oh, and I know it's a long way off, but if you make a bumper for this thing like your LV, consider making two. I might be interested in one for mine.

esh · 08-21-06, 05:03 PM

If you want to talk with someone working with lpb frames and extending, seek ye Jack Rice (medusa). He is building a crew cab lwb 45 to toe his Truggy around and extending his extended frame.

http://www.cascadecruisers.com/yabbs...p?topic=1281.0

Really have enjoyed your threads, Matt.

buckroseau · 08-21-06, 08:44 PM

For fun I drove the lwb to work today

For such a hunk of shit the thing sure runs and drives amazingly well? Drives pretty much straight and true at 55 mph and the motor is quiet, runs and starts well.

The lwb is trying to take care of itself

I picked up a metal lawn mower shipping crate we had laying out back and 4 used lawn mower tires we had laying around tonight. I'm not officially starting yet, but a 4' x 4' stand to set the cab on might accidently get welded together in the next couple days??

Matt

buckroseau · 08-21-06, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by eshelbyk

If you want to talk with someone working with lpb frames and extending, seek ye Jack Rice (medusa). He is building a crew cab lwb 45 to toe his Truggy around and extending his extended frame.

http://www.cascadecruisers.com/yabbs...p?topic=1281.0

Really have enjoyed your threads, Matt.

Checked out that link, very, very nice work!! If I can't locate a frame I might be doing some stuff like that, although I would prefer to round up a nice used one. 99.9% sure the used frame is happening, just might take a few weeks.....or months.

And I'll try to keep the thread rolling along as much as the lv.......if the wife lets me

Thanks, Matt

65-fj45 · 08-21-06, 08:49 PM

let's see a pic of the rusted frame.

buckroseau · 08-21-06, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 65-fj45

let's see a pic of the rusted frame.

I'll try to get a pic tomorrow in the daylight, it would suck right now.

I will try, I have an appointment tomorrow evening at a wheel dyno business. He said about 4 hours and 3 runs on the dyno...the plan is to set up the jets and metering rods for optimum performance and mpg at 60 mph.

Matt

semlin · 08-21-06, 09:57 PM

geez, you should have left room on the trailer for the woods LV and swung by Matt.

cruiserdan · 08-21-06, 10:09 PM

Man,

That thing's a PUFF!............

At least the roof panel is not rusty...........

buckroseau · 08-22-06, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cruiserdan

Man,

That thing's a PUFF!............

At least the roof panel is not rusty...........

No......the roof panel is rusty to........

buckroseau · 08-22-06, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 65-fj45

let's see a pic of the rusted frame.

Got home from the dyno guy and it was dark. I still went out there and stuck the camera underneath the lv and snapped some shots. I had no idea what I was taking a pic of, but I got these.

I'll try to take some more in the daylight tomorrow, but this is the ball park idea. I don't think these pics really show the extent of the rust damage. I think it will really be apparent when I take it apart, sandblast it and take the frame home in a bucket

Matt

Poser · 08-22-06, 10:12 PM

There is a lot of life left in that frame Matt....

buckroseau · 08-22-06, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Poser

There is a lot of life left in that frame Matt....

Hi Steve,

mmmmmm.........sure.........if your coming up for 3 or 4 days, I bet we could do some 40 frame grafting and get it respectable again

While your at it, bring Mike up here in Oct. to...he can help

I'm pretty durable, but I think if you saw this frame in person.....even you would cringe? I know you have your Landcruiser ear to the ground....if you hear of a frame floating around, please let me know

Thanks, Matt