[My wife said no FJ!]

You planning to paint the frame at all?

[destin]

Originally Posted by Living in the Past

If you can hold the master cylinders in place by attaching them to something in about the same location you should be okay. There is clip that holds the master cylinders together. Just pulling the rod out wouldn't let it come apart.

very cool

Thanks!

[destin]

Originally Posted by My wife said no FJ!

You planning to paint the frame at all?

I will probably clean up the frame a bit when the tub is off.
Not a lot of rust on the frame

Probably degrease, rust neutralize and paint the bits that need it.
Then maybe spray that light grease stuff I have been reading about on it.

No real need to blast and repaint the frame, it looks great

[destin]

have the electrical harness out

Thanks for the tips on getting it out!

( trying the embed image instead of flickr, but posting to my flickr account as well )

[destin]

more photos

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more stuff

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few more

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correct heater?

Would I paint it the same color as the body?

[destin]

more photos

[pardion]

Sorry Destin, that heater is too new for your cruiser, that heater requires duct work to the firewall, a hole in the firewall, and a blower motor on the engine side of the firewall. I have only seen the aftermarket square box heaters on early FJ40's. John Pardi

[destin]

Ah bummer :(

Ah well the search is on

[destin]

pulled the tank out today during my lunch break

[destin]

A few more shots

[destin]

a few shots of the moose dog who is mad I am spending to much time on the 40

[wesintl]

Originally Posted by destin

Ah bummer :(

Ah well the search is on

for what? Stock was no heater. IMHO you could clean that one up and either put it in the middle and move the fuse block or put it on the passenger side. even though originally that style had a fresh air vent you could use it as is. None of the dealer installed heaters had fresh air either.

[Living in the Past]

Originally Posted by wesintl

even though originally that style had a fresh air vent you could use it as is. None of the dealer installed heaters had fresh air either.

But the aftermarket heaters had a built in blower. The factory heaters had the blower on the otherside of the firewall with a duct to connect the two. Unless you want to cut up the firewall you need to go aftermarket or find the early Nippon Denso.

[wesintl]

ah.. right.. I knew i was forgetting something

[destin]

someone PM'd me with a correct heater...
I will hit them up tomorrow

If I cannot find one it will be alright anyway.
I will be driving it mostly in the summer anyway

[wesintl]

no defrost tho... I bet you could use that in the rainy nw...

[destin]

Originally Posted by wesintl

no defrost tho... I bet you could use that in the rainy nw...

good point

I have defrost vents!
But no heater :(

hehe

[Living in the Past]

Originally Posted by destin

I have defrost vents!
But no heater

This is another reason I think Toyota had some aftermarket heater kit available for the early FJ40s. Remember in the late fifties early sixties Toyota use the Land Cruiser to get a foot hold in the American Market. Sales were measured in hundreds not hundreds of thousands like today. I think Toyota saw a real need to have a heater available in the North American market and made it happen with a aftermarket kit. Somewhere during 1962 Toyota started installing defrost vents but the heater wasn't a factory option until the 1965 model. These defrost vents seem to be something that was quickly installed into the 40s to meet a demand. They weren't really thought out that well. Can't fold the windshield down without removing them.

I would really hope maybe we can get Shane to reproduce the Johnston label for this heater. I know I have at least three maybe four.

[destin]

Originally Posted by Living in the Past

This is another reason I think Toyota had some aftermarket heater kit available for the early FJ40s. Remember in the late fifties early sixties Toyota use the Land Cruiser to get a foot hold in the American Market. Sales were measured in hundreds not hundreds of thousands like today. I think Toyota saw a real need to have a heater available in the North American market and made it happen with a aftermarket kit. Somewhere during 1962 Toyota started installing defrost vents but the heater wasn't a factory option until the 1965 model. These defrost vents seem to be something that was quickly installed into the 40s to meet a demand. They weren't really thought out that well. Can't fold the windshield down without removing them.

I would really hope maybe we can get Shane to reproduce the Johnston label for this heater. I know I have at least three maybe four.

So true, the defrost vents are a complete afterthought hehe.
After i removed them what you told me when i first started posting on mud became more apparent

No way to drop the windscreen without removing those vents.

As an aside...
I have seen quite a few people doing restores on older 40's leaving the windscreen attached to the tub for media blasting primer and paint...
This kinda makes sense as i think the body was originally dipped in paint with the windscreen attached?

The bolts on the inside are basically solid paint at least

Any thoughts guys?

[My wife said no FJ!]

Here are some of Living In The Past's heaters.

One is from a 62 soft top tub. The other is from a 65 45LPB. Both are from the mid CA area. The third is a Denso heater that was in one of his FJ25s. Don't know the story on it. Not sure where it was installed. Attached Images

[destin]

Originally Posted by My wife said no FJ!

Here are some of Living In The Past's heaters.

One is from a 62 soft top tub. The other is from a 65 45LPB. Both are from the mid CA area. The third is a Denso heater that was in one of his FJ25s. Don't know the story on it. Not sure where it was installed. Attached Images

wow very cool!

[destin]

brought the gas tank to the shop to get it cleaned and sealed.

Now i jsut need to remove the pedals and steering wheel and tail gate

[destin]

Is it bad to leave the windscreen on the tub when they spray the tub?

I have seen a few cats do it ( this photos is from a resto thread in the 45 sections , this is not my fj40 )

[3jvj]

Beautiful work. Super jealous. It will be years until I get to where you're at.

[Cruiser_Nerd]

Originally Posted by destin

Is it bad to leave the windscreen on the tub when they spray the tub?

I think so. There are way too many different surface angles and the interior of the frame to do it on the body. That said, whoever sprays it may want it on so that the finish blends between the body / hinges / frame. That means you'll have to completely cut in and spray the intricate parts of the frame, and mating surface on the tub, mount the frame and then overcoat it when mounted. A detail oriented bodyman already knows that though.

[destin]

Originally Posted by 3jvj

Beautiful work. Super jealous. It will be years until I get to where you're at.

That last photo is not my rig, that was jsut to illustrate the painting with the windscreen on the tub

I almost have the tub ready to remove however

Thanks

[destin]

Originally Posted by Cruiser_Nerd

I think so. There are way too many different surface angles and the interior of the frame to do it on the body. That said, whoever sprays it may want it on so that the finish blends between the body / hinges / frame. That means you'll have to completely cut in and spray the intricate parts of the frame, and mating surface on the tub, mount the frame and then overcoat it when mounted. A detail oriented bodyman already knows that though.

So you think i should remove the windscreen from the tub yeah?
Or leave it together and spray it as one?
Sorry the word "frame" is throwing me off

Just to be clear the tub is coming off the frame/chassis completely when it goes to the painters