puttin 33's on rub a bit

finkster · 04-25-06, 11:41 PM

Put on some BFG mud terrain tires that were 285 70 17 and it rubs a bit on an extreme turn on the rubber that covers the frame.

finkster · 04-25-06, 11:43 PM

with one of each tire.Attachment 69940

finkster · 04-25-06, 11:45 PM

rubbing on rubber.Attachment 69944

finkster · 04-25-06, 11:50 PM

cut that shit out!Attachment 69945

finkster · 04-25-06, 11:51 PM

all done.Attachment 69947

k_os · 04-26-06, 12:41 AM

I think it's not due to the wheel size but the bigger thread that the BFG mud has. Because Fusion Cruiser has 285s and he has about 1/2 left, I tried out yokos muds 285s and MT/Rs and they both had 1/2 of free space.

bkfj40 · 04-26-06, 08:19 AM

is this when it is stuffed, or just while it is sitting there?

bk

saskdiesel · 04-26-06, 09:51 AM

All tires vary between brands.
My 37 inch MTR's measure 36.2 inches.
My 35 inch BFG's measured 33.4 inches. And I have had 33's that measured anywhere from 31.5 to almost 33.

You need a lift to run those tires anywhere but the road.

FusionCruiser · 04-26-06, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saskdiesel

You need a lift to run those tires anywhere but the road.

Hopefully I can ask this as a general question without sounding tooo stupid....

I have been looking at my wheel wells and tires (GY MTR 285/70/17 - with no rubbing) and have a question about the lift kit comments that abound...

My clearance 'issue' is not with the top of the fender but the front to back measurement of the opening. So if I put a sexy 3" lift, I'm raising the fender but the front to back measurement is still the same. So with the front to back being my problem and with my fancy new lift won't I be in the exact same 'tight situation' when I compress the suspension on one of the front corners?

This is a question that has been bugging me since I first heard about the size limits with and without a lift on the FJC.

Hopefully someone can enlighten me.

Thanks!
Shawn

FusionCruiser · 04-26-06, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finkster

Put on some BFG mud terrain tires that were 285 70 17 and it rubs a bit on an extreme turn on the rubber that covers the frame.

Can you measure your tire from the ground to the very top to see how it compares to the GoodYear MTRs ?

I can measure mine when I get home.

Thanks,
Shawn

FJCruiserOwnersGroup · 04-26-06, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FusionCruiser

Hopefully I can ask this as a general question without sounding tooo stupid....

I have been looking at my wheel wells and tires (GY MTR 285/70/17 - with no rubbing) and have a question about the lift kit comments that abound...

My clearance 'issue' is not with the top of the fender but the front to back measurement of the opening. So if I put a sexy 3" lift, I'm raising the fender but the front to back measurement is still the same. So with the front to back being my problem and with my fancy new lift won't I be in the exact same 'tight situation' when I compress the suspension on one of the front corners?

This is a question that has been bugging me since I first heard about the size limits with and without a lift on the FJC.

Hopefully someone can enlighten me.

Thanks!
Shawn

You put on that sexy lift and your front and back measurements are now three inches higher...and, without getting into measurements of pi, a circle is the fattest across the diameter. If you're three inches above the diameter then you've got a bit more room front and back.

woody · 04-26-06, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FusionCruiser

Can you measure your tire from the ground to the very top to see how it compares to the GoodYear MTRs ?

make sure your tire presssures are exactly the same and that each vehicle is exactly loaded the same....otherwise that measurement won't mean much....

ideally, because of where the tires rub, you want a "corner to corner" measurement at the horizontal centerline (much like a car where the left rear bumper point measured to the right front bumper point is it's "worst case" length)

no surprise that two different tires measure differently, and that one may rub where another doesn't.

PKP80 · 04-26-06, 03:27 PM

Sawzall time

FusionCruiser · 04-26-06, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FJCruiserOwnersGroup

You put on that sexy lift and your front and back measurements are now three inches higher...and, without getting into measurements of pi, a circle is the fattest across the diameter.

Are you suggesting that 'post lift' I will not be able to compress the front suspension? I have to say that is not my past experience. After a good lift I could still bury my wheel in the wheelwell with ease. That means I have the diameter of the tire still trying to fit between the same area of the wheelwell that is causing the problem. Unless we aren't expecting to be able to compress the fronts that far.

I'm still confused.

saskdiesel · 04-26-06, 07:35 PM

The wheel isn't going to move a lot front to back as its coil on the back an torsion bar in front. But it will be deflecting some. But it seems like 33 inch the limit for anything stock.

If you really need big tires then start cutting.

mapleton cruiser · 04-26-06, 07:47 PM

ive got 33's and a 3' lift on my fj no rubbing no problems its great.

FusionCruiser · 04-26-06, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapleton cruiser

ive got 33's and a 3' lift on my fj no rubbing no problems its great.

I have GY MTR 33's and no lift (at this time) with no rubbing.

dmc · 04-27-06, 11:48 AM

Do what a lot of Taco guys do (and I did) take off the mudflap, pound tte pinch weld down so it doesn't stick out as far. Yes a BFH is required. Re-install mudflap. No more rubbing. Sounds much worse than it actually is.
dmc

04-25-06, 11:41 PM	#1
finkster IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: calgary alberta Posts: 16	puttin 33's on rub a bit Put on some BFG mud terrain tires that were 285 70 17 and it rubs a bit on an extreme turn on the rubber that covers the frame.

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finkster IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: calgary alberta Posts: 16	with one of each tire.Attachment 69940 Last edited by finkster; 04-25-06 at 11:50 PM.

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finkster IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: calgary alberta Posts: 16	cut that shit out!Attachment 69945 Last edited by finkster; 05-16-06 at 12:21 AM.

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finkster IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: calgary alberta Posts: 16	all done.Attachment 69947 Last edited by finkster; 05-16-06 at 12:21 AM.

04-26-06, 12:41 AM	#6
k_os IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 392	I think it's not due to the wheel size but the bigger thread that the BFG mud has. Because Fusion Cruiser has 285s and he has about 1/2 left, I tried out yokos muds 285s and MT/Rs and they both had 1/2 of free space.

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bkfj40 some 6, no 4, and more 6 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: shenandoah valley, va TLCA# 7909 Posts: 1,194	is this when it is stuffed, or just while it is sitting there? bk __________________ KJ4HFL 76fj40 * 77fj55 * 85fj60 * 00uzj100 * 90Hilux Crew Cab (ex)Diesel * 81hj47 * 07Tundra 5.7DC "I spend most of my money on beer, land cruisers, and women...the rest I just waste" - Curran

04-26-06, 09:51 AM	#8
saskdiesel IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Saskatchewan TLCA# 7430 Posts: 195	All tires vary between brands. My 37 inch MTR's measure 36.2 inches. My 35 inch BFG's measured 33.4 inches. And I have had 33's that measured anywhere from 31.5 to almost 33. You need a lift to run those tires anywhere but the road.

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04-26-06, 07:35 PM	#15
saskdiesel IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Saskatchewan TLCA# 7430 Posts: 195	The wheel isn't going to move a lot front to back as its coil on the back an torsion bar in front. But it will be deflecting some. But it seems like 33 inch the limit for anything stock. If you really need big tires then start cutting.

04-26-06, 07:47 PM	#16
mapleton cruiser IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 169	ive got 33's and a 3' lift on my fj no rubbing no problems its great. __________________ paul 07 voodoo blue fj 3" lift expedition one front bumper t-max winch synthetic line gobi roof rack and ladder ipf lights 33"hankook dynapro mtr's mapleton, utah fj rocks!

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dmc IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wandering the Western Hemisphere TLCA# 11141 Posts: 595	Do what a lot of Taco guys do (and I did) take off the mudflap, pound tte pinch weld down so it doesn't stick out as far. Yes a BFH is required. Re-install mudflap. No more rubbing. Sounds much worse than it actually is. dmc __________________ dave connors 1997 FZJ80 - Ruby Claire Ruby Claire Part 2 www.expeditionamericas.com

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