285/70/17 with no lift... WARNING --- LOTS of Pics!!

FusionCruiser · 04-22-06, 09:14 PM

Here's the latest on my FJC with the 33" Goodyear Wrangler MTRs and no lift kit...

So far, no rubbing even at full lock going up and down a curb.

For those interested, here are a few pics that may help if you are thinking of similar tires...

I know it's a lot of pics but I wanted hundreds before I got my FJ so I thought some others might be intested in the oversized tires / no lift combo.

Thanks,
Shawn

uzj100 · 04-22-06, 09:20 PM

Looks awesome.

uzj100

FusionCruiser · 04-22-06, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by uzj100

Looks awesome.

uzj100

Thanks, I'm diggin' it so far!

EAST TX FJ · 04-22-06, 09:54 PM

still no rubbing? im so glad to know this. i was goin to buy the lift first and then get tires but now ill get tires first and maybe not even get a lift!

EAST TX FJ · 04-22-06, 09:56 PM

oh and how are those tires for noise at hiway speed?

FusionCruiser · 04-22-06, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EAST TX FJ

oh and how are those tires for noise at hiway speed?

My opinion: Quiet.

I am comparing them to the tires I had on my Land Rover and these are definately quieter. To tell you the truth I haven't noticed them at all. The wonderful note from the exhaust is enough to drown out anything that might be coming from the tires.

Would I do it again? 100% Yes!!

Any negatives so far? None.

EAST TX FJ · 04-22-06, 10:09 PM

trd catback?

Corey · 04-22-06, 10:35 PM

How much will 1" throw off the speedo?

I was going to go with Wild Country TXRs from Les Schwab in the stock size when my FJ gets here in June, but may go for the 285s now.

Been running TXRs now since '98, and only on my 2nd set.
This set I bought around 2000 or 2001, and they still look new tread wise.
They wear forever.

The tires look great on your rig!

logic2 · 04-22-06, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Corey

How much will 1" throw off the speedo?

I was going to go with Wild Country TXRs from Les Schwab in the stock size when my FJ gets here in June, but may go for the 285s now.

Been running TXRs now since '98, and only on my 2nd set.
This set I bought around 2000 or 2001, and they still look new tread wise.
They wear forever.

The tires look great on your rig!

I have 285x70x17's on my FJC (3" OME lift) and my Garmin GPS shows the speedo to be off by about 1.5 to 2 MPH at 80.
Acceptable to me...

BigBlue · 04-22-06, 11:46 PM

Looks great! I can't wait......

k_os · 04-23-06, 01:26 AM

I'd so the same if I didn't do a 30 mile comute mon-fri

Nautidog · 04-23-06, 01:07 PM

Very nice! I like the BFG's myself. I've had to may problems with Goodyear but they look great (better that the BFG's)! My problems were with trailer tires (another story).

FusionCruiser · 04-23-06, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EAST TX FJ

trd catback?

Nope... Stock rumble

Tim Scully · 04-23-06, 07:34 PM

Good to know the 33s fit without rubbing. I have had several people ask me how big you could go. Have you maxed it out on the trail to see if it rubbed offroad. I know you had some muddy undercarriage but didn't know if you were flexing alot where you were???

FusionCruiser · 04-23-06, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Scully

Good to know the 33s fit without rubbing. I have had several people ask me how big you could go. Have you maxed it out on the trail to see if it rubbed offroad. I know you had some muddy undercarriage but didn't know if you were flexing alot where you were???

I definately have more flexing to test but I was originally told that they would rub just by turning the wheels. Then they said it was turning the wheels [to lock] and going up a curb that would make them rub horribly. I have tested both of those so far and no problem. I am actively searching for a part of the trails that I can show / test some flex better but so far nothing great to show you.

I'll update with more compression when I get some shots.

Thanks,
Shawn

Dirk Diggler · 04-23-06, 10:59 PM

Is that The Red River in the background?

FusionCruiser · 04-24-06, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler

Is that The Red River in the background?

Yup. It's at the St. Norbert floodgates.

Cuerno Largo · 04-24-06, 07:23 AM

Cool Pics. Thanks for the input on the tires.

I won't be afraid to get the tires before the lift now.

GojuFJ · 04-24-06, 03:37 PM

I too added these tires over the weekend and have experienced no rubbing at full lock. Haven't had the chance to test off-road for rubbing under compression. And man do they make it look good. I had it at a Cal 4 Wheel meeting this weekend and it was a definite attention getter amongst the off-roading crowd.

FusionCruiser · 04-24-06, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GojuFJ

I too added these tires over the weekend and have experienced no rubbing at full lock.

Cajun Transplant · 04-24-06, 11:12 PM

So with a more aggressive tire tread like that, do you sacrifice a lot of on road performance? I understand they won't grip like a Z-rated performance tire, but I also don't think any of us drive our FJ like a Porche 911 either. I just wanna make sure I won't be putting my life ,or more importantly my 22 month old daughter's life, in jeopardy by going to a tire designed more for offroad use on a daily driven car. Thanks!!!

FusionCruiser · 04-24-06, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajun Transplant

So with a more aggressive tire tread like that, do you sacrifice a lot of on road performance? I understand they won't grip like a Z-rated performance tire, but I also don't think any of us drive our FJ like a Porche 911 either. I just wanna make sure I won't be putting my life ,or more importantly my 22 month old daughter's life, in jeopardy by going to a tire designed more for offroad use on a daily driven car. Thanks!!!

I have 6 kids that I try to keep safe as much as possible and I have zero issues so far that make me question the on road habits. Granted I have only driven them on dry roads, wet roads and muddy trails but everything is flawless so far. I wouldn't hesitate to make the same decision again.

Beowulf · 04-25-06, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajun Transplant

So with a more aggressive tire tread like that, do you sacrifice a lot of on road performance?

Mike,
As with most things vehicle related, tyre selection is a compromise. There are tyres for high speed, drag racing, ice/snow, all-terrain, mud, crawler, etc. When selecting a tyre you need to evaluate all the choices and pick what's right for you. In general, an A/T type is a better compromise between the typical choices for your FJ Cruiser.

I run M/Ts on the 80 because off-road performance is more important to me at this stage of the truck's life. I run A/Ts on the Tacoma because it spends most of the time on pavement.

The Toyota Trail teams are running BFG A/T ko tyres which is an optional tyre/wheel combination.

-B-

FusionCruiser · 04-25-06, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Mike,
..... evaluate all the choices and pick what's right for you. In general, an A/T type is a better compromise between the typical choices for your FJ Cruiser.

Not trying to start anything, just curious... What in Mike's post gave you enough information to state that an A/T is a better compromise for him? I think I must have missed something.

I have tried to keep my 2 cents about BFG A/T's to myself because I know that a lot of ppl on this board seem to like them but for my combination of DD / 4x4 usage I would never go with them again. Actually, having now tried these tires, I wouldn't go back to A/T's of any make (I had Pirelli Scorpions as well in the past). My experience with the BFG's wasn't good once I left the road and the on-road performance didn't make up for that short coming in my mind.

Let me temper my comment a bit... The trails etc that I go on are almost always muddy. This is where the A/T's had big problems cleaning themselves fast enough to be useful.

Either way, as long as they get you where you want to go [safely], that's all that matters.

Shawn

spike6901 · 04-25-06, 10:16 AM

The GY MTR is sort of in between a very aggressive mud tire and an all terrian tire. GY's all terrain is a joke but the MTR's are excellent off road tires that act pretty darn good on the pavement. BFG All terrains are about as good as street tires once the going gets muddy but pretty darn good for most of everything else and they will last twice as long as the MTR's. The "KO's" are a long shot better with overall grip than the previous model. Personally, for the FJC, I think that the MTR is the perfect choice as long as your wife dosen't beat you for the added tire noise.

MissFJ · 04-25-06, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey

I was going to go with Wild Country TXRs from Les Schwab in the stock size when my FJ gets here in June, but may go for the 285s now.

Been running TXRs now since '98, and only on my 2nd set.
This set I bought around 2000 or 2001, and they still look new tread wise.
They wear forever.

The tires look great on your rig!

Glad you had better luck with the Wild Country's then I did! Mine did not fair so well in the mud and snow. I took proper care of them, it felt like I was driving on 4 lumpy basketballs after awhile. Switched to GY MTR's and they've treated me well for years. Great off and on road. I also kinda like the noise

FusionCruiser · 04-25-06, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MissFJ

... I also kinda like the noise

FusionCruiser · 04-28-06, 12:14 AM

Update:

Did some light wheeling at lunch to see what I could do to flex the suspension a bit to check for rubbing....

No rubbing for my setup.

Shawn

04-22-06, 09:14 PM	#1
FusionCruiser IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba TLCA# 16070 Posts: 143	285/70/17 with no lift... WARNING --- LOTS of Pics!! Here's the latest on my FJC with the 33" Goodyear Wrangler MTRs and no lift kit... So far, no rubbing even at full lock going up and down a curb. For those interested, here are a few pics that may help if you are thinking of similar tires... I know it's a lot of pics but I wanted hundreds before I got my FJ so I thought some others might be intested in the oversized tires / no lift combo. Thanks, Shawn __________________ -'07 SunFusion FJ Cruiser C Pak -33" GY MTRs -Regrets... None!

04-22-06, 09:20 PM	#2
uzj100 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,045	Looks awesome. uzj100 __________________ 00 - UZJ100 - D Light Mod, 2 FRB's, Husky Liners, BFG AT KO - 285/75 R 16 03 - UZJ120L http://insea.tv/Home/Home.html

04-22-06, 09:54 PM	#4
EAST TX FJ IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Longview, Tx Posts: 46	still no rubbing? im so glad to know this. i was goin to buy the lift first and then get tires but now ill get tires first and maybe not even get a lift! __________________ 2007 Voodoo Blue FJ Cruiser Flat black stock 17's, 285/70/17 Goodyear Wrangler Mtr's, All-Pro lift Plans- All-Pro front bumper, rock sliders

04-22-06, 09:56 PM	#5
EAST TX FJ IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Longview, Tx Posts: 46	oh and how are those tires for noise at hiway speed? __________________ 2007 Voodoo Blue FJ Cruiser Flat black stock 17's, 285/70/17 Goodyear Wrangler Mtr's, All-Pro lift Plans- All-Pro front bumper, rock sliders

04-22-06, 10:09 PM	#7
EAST TX FJ IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Longview, Tx Posts: 46	trd catback? __________________ 2007 Voodoo Blue FJ Cruiser Flat black stock 17's, 285/70/17 Goodyear Wrangler Mtr's, All-Pro lift Plans- All-Pro front bumper, rock sliders

04-22-06, 10:35 PM	#8
Corey IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Auburn, WA. Posts: 657	How much will 1" throw off the speedo? I was going to go with Wild Country TXRs from Les Schwab in the stock size when my FJ gets here in June, but may go for the 285s now. Been running TXRs now since '98, and only on my 2nd set. This set I bought around 2000 or 2001, and they still look new tread wise. They wear forever. The tires look great on your rig! __________________ Corey '07 FJ Cruiser, '91 4Runner is gone ARB bumper, Warn XD9000, OME lift, custom rack goodies, so much more, see my website My Forum - My Website - My Rigs Build-up - Roof Top Tent - Video Of My Penthouse

04-22-06, 11:46 PM	#10
BigBlue IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 50	Looks great! I can't wait......

04-23-06, 01:26 AM	#11
k_os IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 390	I'd so the same if I didn't do a 30 mile comute mon-fri

04-23-06, 01:07 PM	#12
Nautidog IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South MS Posts: 11	Very nice! I like the BFG's myself. I've had to may problems with Goodyear but they look great (better that the BFG's)! My problems were with trailer tires (another story). __________________ LX 450; BFG's FJ Cruiser; REVO's, ARB Bumper, PIAA Lights, Donahoe Suspension, TC UCA's, Bandi Mount, CB

04-23-06, 07:34 PM	#14
Tim Scully IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sacto... Ca. Posts: 60	Good to know the 33s fit without rubbing. I have had several people ask me how big you could go. Have you maxed it out on the trail to see if it rubbed offroad. I know you had some muddy undercarriage but didn't know if you were flexing alot where you were???

04-23-06, 10:59 PM	#16
Dirk Diggler IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 172	Is that The Red River in the background? __________________ Pat Omaha, NE '07 FJ Black Cherry MT6. '95 FZJ80, factory lockers, OME 851/860, 305's, & some stuff from Slee '04 UZJ100, stock TLCA # 14703

04-24-06, 07:23 AM	#18
Cuerno Largo IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Republic of Texas TLCA# 16073 Posts: 452	Cool Pics. Thanks for the input on the tires. I won't be afraid to get the tires before the lift now. __________________ '75 FJ-40-In pieces on my garage floor. -Buildup thread here '07 Titanium FJC- wife's ride My statement to my wife: "All of the accumulated crap in my shop will be really useful if I find a use for it." "You may all go to Hell and I will go to Texas"- Davy Crockett

04-24-06, 03:37 PM	#19
GojuFJ IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5	I too added these tires over the weekend and have experienced no rubbing at full lock. Haven't had the chance to test off-road for rubbing under compression. And man do they make it look good. I had it at a Cal 4 Wheel meeting this weekend and it was a definite attention getter amongst the off-roading crowd.

04-24-06, 11:12 PM	#21
Cajun Transplant IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Baton Rouge, LA TLCA# 17036 Posts: 192	So with a more aggressive tire tread like that, do you sacrifice a lot of on road performance? I understand they won't grip like a Z-rated performance tire, but I also don't think any of us drive our FJ like a Porche 911 either. I just wanna make sure I won't be putting my life ,or more importantly my 22 month old daughter's life, in jeopardy by going to a tire designed more for offroad use on a daily driven car. Thanks!!! __________________ _____________________ '07 Sun Fusion FJ Cruiser Mods: 265/70R17 MT Baja MTZ's, ATRAC hack Baton Rouge, LA

04-25-06, 10:16 AM	#25
spike6901 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 91	The GY MTR is sort of in between a very aggressive mud tire and an all terrian tire. GY's all terrain is a joke but the MTR's are excellent off road tires that act pretty darn good on the pavement. BFG All terrains are about as good as street tires once the going gets muddy but pretty darn good for most of everything else and they will last twice as long as the MTR's. The "KO's" are a long shot better with overall grip than the previous model. Personally, for the FJC, I think that the MTR is the perfect choice as long as your wife dosen't beat you for the added tire noise. __________________ Looser W/O a Cruiser

04-28-06, 12:14 AM	#28
FusionCruiser IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba TLCA# 16070 Posts: 143	Update: Did some light wheeling at lunch to see what I could do to flex the suspension a bit to check for rubbing.... No rubbing for my setup. Shawn __________________ -'07 SunFusion FJ Cruiser C Pak -33" GY MTRs -Regrets... None!