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05-30-09, 11:33 PM
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Offering my time to sas an fjc for a boston local.
This is horrible. I was hoping to search and find a bunch of solid axle fj cruisers. But instead I find everybody waiting for allpro to make a kit.
I have a bunch of projects going on right now but I would consider putting a solid axle under an FJ cruiser for someone local to me at cost. Not that I think itd be a problem but I think the only requisite would have to be itd be someone that likes to wheel there rig.
To be honest I haven't even looked at it, and im sure it'll take a little bit to get the atrac to work on a solid axle, but im sure its doable.
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And a whole lot of dents contributed by new england's natural flora and fauna (mostly responsible is one species of flora... pine) (and the elusive new england delivery truck)
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05-31-09, 10:44 AM
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If I were to put a solid axle in I would make sure it had a locker and wouldn't care if A-Trac worked or not.
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05-31-09, 11:27 AM
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Im sure the neat thing to do would be to rig up both a-trac and a locking device so you could choose.
You guys know better than I do about the a-trac system and im not even sure if one can be modified to work on a live axle. Theoretically it shouldn't be hard, but again i don't know.
when all pro does a sas they tear out everything and toss in 15k worth of dana parts, I think a simple sas with toyota parts could be done for under 5k possibly even in the 2 to 3 k window.
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88 PU long bed, pro comp 35s
All Pro rear suspension
Custom SAS
Toyota e-locker(R),aussie(F)
4/88's
And a whole lot of dents contributed by new england's natural flora and fauna (mostly responsible is one species of flora... pine) (and the elusive new england delivery truck)
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05-31-09, 10:51 PM
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Install lockers front and rear and forget about the electronics. The FJC use unit bearings for the wheel bearings and they have the speed sensor rings built into them. Not to mention that the ECU is calibrated for a smaller tire then you will ultimately run on the SAS'ed rig and will not react in a similar manner as when the FJC was stock. Post pics of the build if you find someone will to let you hack up their FJC.
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06-09-09, 04:30 PM
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Hey N8. I'm a guy looking for someone to SAS a FJ Cruiser from CT. I am definitely looking for a reasonable cost project. What do you have in mind for a front axle? Are you talking keeping the OEM rear in and just re-gearing it and maybe putting some better parts(chromoly axles, etc. in it)? I run the FJNortheasters and go by Slither in the FJ Cruiser forums. I think I've got a good platform to start with just interested to see what you have in mind.
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06-10-09, 01:11 AM
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pm sent =D
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88 PU long bed, pro comp 35s
All Pro rear suspension
Custom SAS
Toyota e-locker(R),aussie(F)
4/88's
And a whole lot of dents contributed by new england's natural flora and fauna (mostly responsible is one species of flora... pine) (and the elusive new england delivery truck)
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06-10-09, 05:48 PM
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I await the results with baited breath... Lots or pics and a good write up would be appreciated by many, for generations, I am sure.
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06-10-09, 05:58 PM
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Using a Toyota axle will result in about 10"-12" too narrow track width up front (andthe differential on the wrong side) - you could use a Diamond axle (Toyota internal parts) but you'd eat up that 3K fantasy budget on that alone. You can always do it cheap, but on a 30K vehicle wouldnt you rather do it right?
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06-16-09, 09:45 AM
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any updates?
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06-16-09, 10:09 AM
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We have built a couple so far on an as needed basis, so I'm sure we could do another if requested. Actual production kits will be several months off. The built to order kits are taking about a week for the links & brackets, and 2-3 weeks for the RockJock axle, or 5-6 weeks for a hybrid axle.
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06-16-09, 07:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockrawler
Using a Toyota axle will result in about 10"-12" too narrow track width up front (andthe differential on the wrong side) - you could use a Diamond axle (Toyota internal parts) but you'd eat up that 3K fantasy budget on that alone. You can always do it cheap, but on a 30K vehicle wouldnt you rather do it right?
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I'm right there with you Terry. I was interested in what he was thinking. Definitely not up for the leaf spring set up. I was thinking Currie Rock Jock but then it's on with the $$$$. It's not something that can be cheap. I guess reasonable and well done is what I'm looking for. Too bad you guys are on the Left Coast. I'd probably be trying to get a mortgage lined up for the FJ!
Last edited by Slither; 06-17-09 at 04:55 PM.
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06-17-09, 02:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slither
Too bad you guys are on the Left Coast. I'd probably be trying to get mortgage lined up for the FJ!
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Thats what Dustpark did!
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06-17-09, 03:52 PM
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bla
The idea is to do a solid axle swap thats affordable, and to document it so that everybody else and their granny can sas their fj cruiser. so the idea would be to use an fj 80 axle and modify it similar to what my buddy josh did for this s 10 to get the differential on the correct side: Dr. Custom Werx - 4X4 & Offroad Fabrication
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88 PU long bed, pro comp 35s
All Pro rear suspension
Custom SAS
Toyota e-locker(R),aussie(F)
4/88's
And a whole lot of dents contributed by new england's natural flora and fauna (mostly responsible is one species of flora... pine) (and the elusive new england delivery truck)
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06-17-09, 04:02 PM
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06-17-09, 04:34 PM
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Sure looks like a Demello bumper!
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06-17-09, 04:43 PM
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oops perhaps it was this bumper I saw him makin:
Dr. Custom Werx - 4X4 & Offroad Fabrication
nevermind totally unrelated.
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88 PU long bed, pro comp 35s
All Pro rear suspension
Custom SAS
Toyota e-locker(R),aussie(F)
4/88's
And a whole lot of dents contributed by new england's natural flora and fauna (mostly responsible is one species of flora... pine) (and the elusive new england delivery truck)
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06-20-09, 11:27 AM
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how much does a SAS run on the FJ?
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08-16-09, 07:25 PM
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Just out of curiousity did anyone ever manage to find out how toyota shoved the 80 series axel and transfercase under their retro tacoma?
I only ask b/c I have a 80 sitting in my drive collecting dust. It only has 75k on it but I would give it up if there was a way to adapt the drive line to the FJ.
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08-17-09, 08:22 AM
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Just throwing a solid axle under the front of the FJ and expecting it all to just work fine and all for $3-5K is simply unrealistic. Depending on the state where you live, inspection of your vehicle is a HUGE consideration. Here in NC any code being thrown by the ECU will fail you on the inspection. With that in mind, all sensors on the front axle MUST be maintained and fully operational.
Past that just throwing on a 3 link without proper research into the geometry is a waste of time and money. In almost all cases people that own the FJ also use it as a daily driver, not just a trail rig. This thing needs to be safe at highway speeds as well as capable on the trail. So far a handfull of FJs have been SASed and done in an environment where proffesional shops that have years of experience with designing and building this type of suspension have done it. I am quite sure they have been through several arangements before finding the setup that works well on the FJ both on the trail and the highway.
Most folks with some fabrication skills can throw together a set of sliders. Designing and building a complete front suspension system including the correct geometry for the links as well as steering and all the electronics involved is another story.
IMHO building a SASed FJ is a prime example of YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR! Fabricate at your own risk.
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08-20-09, 07:34 PM
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This guys gotta be blowing da smoke up the booty
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