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Old 07-01-08, 02:08 PM   #1
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How do you guys carry fuel?

Question #1 - What kind of 2.5-5 gallon cans are the BEST? Wedco?

Question # 2 - What is a decent way to secure them on/in a stock 80? I've always been leery of carrying jerry cans inside the passenger compartment of a vehicle, but around here I'd even be leery of storing them on a roof rack on a 100+ degree day with the sun shining directly on them.

Any ideas?... (besides adding a subtank - I'm too cheap for that, and rarely need more than 5-10 gallons of extra fuel.)


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Old 07-01-08, 07:17 PM   #2
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septer fuel cans.. the military type available at slee. there are a few places that make holders for these that can be mounted on the roof or a bumper.


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Hi All:

The "Jerry" can, aka NATO fuel can. WEDCO sells a nice version of this unit.

Carry a couple in a basket attached to a swing-away spare tire carrier.

I use a pair of 1969 made ex-British Army "Jerry cans." I bunjee-cord 'em down horizontally in my FJ40 to the rear portion of the roll cage - they stay in place and no leaks.

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So I guess the bottom line is that there really isn't a GOOD way to carry extra fuel without coughing up big bucks for a custom rear bumper or subtank... I wish Hanna would hurry up and come out with these PaintLabs/FirstToy racks:



Still not perfect, but pretty cool for a lot of things besides fuel.


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I guess this is the "other" option. In addition to this, I'll be carrying two wedco water cans inside the 60. I'll post the set-up once it's completed.

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Most of the time I carry it in my factory sub tank but when I need more than that, like crossing the Simpson Desert, I use plastic jerry cans in my ARB rear bar.



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Old 07-03-08, 01:27 PM   #7
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One opinion on what's "best" on military jerry fuel cans: Jerry Can Paper (beware that a lot of the source data is OBE).


Since my PSD has a 90 aux fuel tank, I don't normally carry jerry cans for diesel fuel, even though I have a number of surplus MFC & NATO jerry cans.

For the Toy on long day trips out in the desert, I carry one Wedco can with the Toy with a couple MFC's back in the trailer tool box.

In addition, the Toy has a Coleman's Surplus Blazer NOS 26 gallon fuel tank. Along with the OEM tank of 15-17 gallons, plus the aux tank, plus one jerry can, I'm good for +45 gallons of fuel.

For details on the aux fuel tank for the Toy, see the long range tanks thread in the Expedition forum. For the aux tank in the PSD, see the aux fuel tank thread in the Other Vehicle forum.

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If you have a good quality fuel can (Wedco, NATO, Swiss, etc) then why can't you carry them inside? If there's no vapor leak then there are no issues. If you're worried about getting into an accident, you'll have other issues to worry about at the time. A full can of fuel will not explode since there is very little vapor trapped inside.

Ideally, a $2,000 bumper for carrying fuel would be great but not practical for some!


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Most of the time I carry it in my factory sub tank but when I need more than that, like crossing the Simpson Desert, I use plastic jerry cans in my ARB rear bar.
Have you any experience with diesel/petrol fuel bladders? I was thinking you could put them into a solid ply frame and strap them down allowing other gear to be stored on top.
When your not using them ,they can be removed and folded away till the next trip
They come in sizes 50 litre + and for water etc


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Have you any experience with diesel/petrol fuel bladders? I was thinking you could put them into a solid ply frame and strap them down allowing other gear to be stored on top.
When your not using them ,they can be removed and folded away till the next trip
They come in sizes 50 litre + and for water etc


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I'd seen them before for water but didn't know they were available for fuel as well. Thanks for the link. They'd be great in the rear footwell area of the 105.


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I've found the Wedco cans with the nato style cap seal the best, by far, of any gas can I've used. I've never had a whif or hint of fuel spill or vapor and I carry these cans inside all of my vehicles.

I purchased a couple of Scepters and after one leaked like crazy, they're nothing more than garbage taking up space in my garage, now. The water can version of the Scepters work nicely though. I've heard good things about Scepters, but I also know mine isn't the only one to leak, so it's just not worth the risk to me.

I normally carry three 2.5 gallon Wedcos in various places to help spread the load out. 7 gallons is not much, but it's a decent amount for emergency gas. At least 75-110 extra miles.

I really like the 2.5 gallon cans, because the smaller size is easier to store in different places, doesn't slosh around as much and is MUCH easier to fill the tank with.

I have carried as much as four of these 2.5 gallon cans on my roof rack, but the roof rack has since gone bye-bye in an effort to improve fuel economy.

Carrying inside is never recommended, but you do what you gotta do.


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So I guess the bottom line is that there really isn't a GOOD way to carry extra fuel without coughing up big bucks for a custom rear bumper or subtank... I wish Hanna would hurry up and come out with these PaintLabs/FirstToy racks:



Still not perfect, but pretty cool for a lot of things besides fuel.
I would have issues about carrying fuel INSIDE the passenger cabin (ie - fumes).....
I have a CBI rear bumper with tire carrier, hi-lift carrier and jerry can carrier.


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I've found the Wedco cans with the nato style cap seal the best, by far, of any gas can I've used. I've never had a whif or hint of fuel spill or vapor and I carry these cans inside all of my vehicles.

I purchased a couple of Scepters and after one leaked like crazy, they're nothing more than garbage taking up space in my garage, now. The water can version of the Scepters work nicely though. I've heard good things about Scepters, but I also know mine isn't the only one to leak, so it's just not worth the risk to me.


If you consider them garbage... I will gladly take them off your hands, to add to the dozen that I used on a routine basis.


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I would have issues about carrying fuel INSIDE the passenger cabin (ie - fumes).....
This is a classic case of "get what you pay for". The higher quality Wedco, NATO, etc cans are sealed against fumes. If an older can leaks vapor then the seal should be replaced.


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I guess this is the "other" option. In addition to this, I'll be carrying two wedco water cans inside the 60. I'll post the set-up once it's completed.

good luck

hey man love your bumper. if you dont mind where did you get it from and how much . thanks
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hey man love your bumper. if you dont mind where did you get it from and how much . thanks
It came from Jim at SROR. He built the rear ladder/carrier for me. His prices are on his website. The ladder works nicely with my RR tent.

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I am partial to the Wedco cans. I think they are the best quality cans out ther, plus now they are one of the few that are CARB compliant (for us living in California). I really like their pouring spout accesory.



The Adventure Trailers fuel can holders are a handy ready made solution for carrying the cans; however, you pay for what you get. Until my welding skills are better than an 8 year old I shall spend my money on quality.



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The cheapo $15 Scepter plastic 5 gallon cans available at your local chain auto-parts stores work just fine. I carried a few on a week long trip to the southwest and had no fumes or leaks at all.


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I always carry it in my 170 litre sub tank...

Nearly 2000KM (1,200 miles) before I need fuel


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I always carry 2 5 gallon NATO gas cans on my Half ARB Roof Rack, secured with a braket I can drive at 40 to 45 miles per hour on some tight trails and no problems!






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On a recent trip to Alaska I ended up building a swing out rack and a swing down rack under my truck. It worked great, kept the COG low. My plan was to keep two Scepter fuel cans on the back and a water Scepter can inside. It didn't work out that way as my Scepter water can leaks. None of my fuel cans do. I also use a strap style oil filter wrench on them to keep them tight, and inspect and replace the seals when needed.

We ended up carrying an extra 5gallons of fuel in the truck with no issues.









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