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You want to do what...?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
Posts: 10,189
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Interested in/ Starting out with Ham Radios...?
well, don't do what I did...
I knew very little about the Ham field. Had always been vaguely interested in the abstract and used radios when I was flying, but it's the guys here (mostly Andy's reviews of ham on the trails - thanks) who convinced me to go ahead with it for wheeling. The main reason by far I did it was for emergency commo in the boonies. What I did was a minor bit of perusal of web sites mostly about radios, and I took the exam without much reading. (Also asked a bunch of premature questions here , thanks for the info.) Fortunately, I did do a bunch of review reading (here and on various sites) before buying the equipment and I'm quite happy with the choices. Then read a couple of sites about ham etiquette, and tried on the air, but altogether I got into this without knowing very much about it (and felt uneasy about that lack of knowledge).Now, I just got the book "Ham Radio for dummies" and concluded that I went about this all wrong. I should have gotten that book or a similar one before I did anything else. A book like that covers all the generalities that you can't normally find on the web, and most importantly puts things in perspective as to what you need, what you can do, what it's for, what's the basis for lots of things etc. I'm only a couple of chapters in the book but it seems like a very good intro to the hobby and technology. Only $25 or so. Well worth it. So, IMHO, get an intro book at the first notion that this is something you may be interested in at some point in the future, and certainly long before you take the exam and buy equipment. Surely most of you were smarter than I was, but it's easy to get in a rush to take the exam and buy equipment and get going without enough background. my 2c, HTmayH somebody else... __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 Last edited by e9999; 08-22-07 at 11:43 AM. |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Central Calif.
Posts: 384
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Thanks for your input! I'm looking to get into the hobby as well.
__________________ 1987 FJ-60. Iron lift, 33x9.5 BFG AT's. 195,000 mi strong. 2000 Tacoma TRD locked/lifted & ARB'd for the High Sierras. 2001 4runner bone stock DD |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 111
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don't forget you can always make a quick trip to your local library to see if they have that book or something like it and you are not out any cash
![]() go to arrl.org and see if you have any clubs in your area, go to a meeting and chat...face to face and you might meet an elmer (someone to help & teach)... then see if you have a local ham shop so you can checkout toys in person... good thread on doing it right
__________________ Assisting the handicapped with vehicle based backcountry access.
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 386
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i'll send anybody that wants it my tech class element 2 study guide (2007-2011 version)...
... first pm gets it for the cost to ship it. edit: gone, hopefully my general class book will be available on Sept 17th.... __________________ "Mate , you must drink some serious piss to need to get to youre chilly bin that quickly." - topend yobbo Last edited by JO MAOMA; 08-24-07 at 05:19 PM. |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Hanford,Ca.
Posts: 93
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You want to do what...?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
Posts: 10,189
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well, finished reading the Dummies book.
Clarification: there is relatively little on mobile systems, a few mentions here and there but not too much technical as in what radio and antennae to use. And nothing directly pertinent to wheeling uses. But it's a good intro the the Ham hobby in general. A lot on HF of course, which is not what a beginner would normally use. As I mentioned, good reading if you are still at the "thinking whether I should do it or not" level. Gives you a good idea what it's all about. He does have a section on "best references". I'll quote a few here, HTH: portals: eham.net qrz.com qsl.net ac6v.com mobile operation: "your mobile companion" by roger burch also "the mobile DXer" by Dave Mangels also "APRS tracks etc" by Stan Horzepa oh, one last thing, an observation about "Dead Air". The other day I was scanning and thinking "man there is so little out there...". But on a whim, I picked up a dead repeater frequency and called up, and lo and behold, immediately, somebody picked it up, we chatted and I even got an invitation to joing a group of hams for lunch (200 miles away unfortunately). So it goes to show you that dead air is only dead if you don't do anything about it. I guess a bunch of serious hams out there that walk around with HTs, don't say anything but will reply if called up. So don't give up too easily! ![]() enjoy! __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 |
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We had a couple of guys in our club that are long time Hams. One of them organized a study class for us which was way cool. And we started a little "net" on Monday nights, where we sit and yak with each other, which helps you practice. So far it's vastly superior to CB, especially with connected repeaters. I communicated on 2m with one of my club members who was camping up above Central City and I was practically home, a distance of around 75 miles! You can't do that with CB. We're working on more of our club members. Eventually we'll get them all to go Ham.
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__________________ Chris Hatfield KCŘZABTLCA#2768, Ad Sales Manager, Toyota Trails/tlca.org "As long as you're skating on thin ice, you may as well dance!" '97 FZJ80, '69 FJ40 "Project Orange" Rising Sun 4 Wheel Drive Club Cruise Moab 2008 Advertise in TLCA's award winning Toyota Trails magazine. |
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"The Adventure Duo"
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Southern California
Posts: 3,310
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Yep, bought a book while i was studying the online tests and read it twice.. always worth it.
__________________ www.adventureduo.com [KI6LBB] 2004 Jeep Wrangler TJ X Edition 2003 Sportsmobile 4x4 EB50 |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Missouri and Montana, USA
Posts: 74
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Find a club!
Sure, it sounds really geeky, but there's nothing better than finding a HAM club full of old nerds. Honest. I got introduced to amateur radio through some club members who were doing FYI stuff in public schools (I was in junior high at the time). I got hooked and those guys taught me so much I couldn't handle it all. I ended up working with one later when I was dejaying at KGVW in Belgrade, MT and learned even more. The best part about it was that they loaned me radios long before I could ever buy one, let me hang out with them to learn all the ropes (something you'll never get in a book), and I got to do cool stuff like run communications for forest-fire crews
(way cool for a 15 year old kid in MT).Search the web for a club in your area. A lot have websites, like mine does. www.gallatinhamradio.com/ __________________ I come seeking knowledge. . . 1990 4Runner SR5, 3.0 V6, 5-speed manual, 31" no-names, and a lead foot KC7EUU |
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You want to do what...?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
Posts: 10,189
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found another good book, a bit older but very nicely written, great explanations of various technical stuff, including propagation, electronics, what bands to use for what and when and more, all in a very easy plain english language:
All about Ham radio by Harry Helms I'm tempted to rate it above the Dummies book __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 |
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IH8MUD Addict
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Everyone should read up on radio propagation. It is amazing how far a low power signal will actually travel.... Amazing.
JB __________________ Third generation Californian! If you don't like it here, leave. And take your fat wife and screeming kids with you. |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Victorihhhhhaaa
Posts: 207
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Hey out of curiosity, is it possible to use a Ham radio to get internet when in either the city or way out in the middle of no where?
Can Ham radios broadcast/receive on marine and airband? __________________ ___________________________________________ 83 BJ60 SOLD 89 BJ74 24V RHD |
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IH8MUD Addict
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I don't know about internet access for browsing, but I have been Playing around with WinLink & Paclink for sending and receving emails by ham radio. It's slow but seems to work.
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Western Colorado
Posts: 16
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Chris,
Just noticed your location. I am newbie to wheeling and mobile radios. Could you recommend a good Ham and CB retailer in Denver Area? Not much here in Grand Junction. Tks dave |
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IH8MUD Addict
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How did all of you hams prepare for the test? ARRL has an online course. Has anyone here taken a formal course, or did you just study a book and/or a question bank to prepare for the test?
__________________ 96 FZJ80, locked, poverty pack 97 FZJ80, 285 Revos, locked, 7-pin, CDL switch, temp gauge mod 99 4Runner |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Missouri and Montana, USA
Posts: 74
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__________________ I come seeking knowledge. . . 1990 4Runner SR5, 3.0 V6, 5-speed manual, 31" no-names, and a lead foot KC7EUU |
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www.hamtestonline.com This is excellent. I tried the ARRL book and it's dull and poorly organized. The Gordon West book teaches to the test and is acceptable, but there isn't enough background. Hamtestonline is great. I recently passed my General exam using hamtestonline after studying seriously for about 2 weeks. __________________ Andrew 1971 FJ-40 Rubicon tested, 2F powered, some mods 1976 FJ40 Rusting slowly in the back yard 1984 FJ-60 H55f, 4.11, OME, Daily Driver 1989 FJ-62 117k-son's driver for now-low and slow 1997 FZJ-80 Driveway queen |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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There's some good info in here, but a one-stop-shop thread would be a big help.
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: West Los Angeles
Posts: 635
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These tests helped me pass with a 100%. I studied Gordon's book off and on for about a month and a half, then hit these tests up one after another for about 4 hours the night before the test. With all the info fresh in your head, its much easier.
Enjoy! QRZ Ham Radio __________________ Brad 1994 FZJ-80: Fully locked ; 99k; Temp Gauge Mod; PHH'd; Fan Clutch Mod (8,000cst & 105*); FIAMM dual tone horn, 100-series brake pads, diff breather extension, Pioneer DEH-P3900MP headunit, BFG AT 285's, ome 850/863, removed running boards, and more maintenance than is healthy
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Dog is my co-pilot
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I just finished a 2 day prep course through my local C.E.R.T. program.
The class was taught by Gordo himself. I passed with 100% and every student in the class passed the test. I met a bunch of local Hams and found out who the local equipment gurus are. Plenty of offers for help once I decide to install equipment. More and more C.E.R.T. programs are getting into Ham and it is a great way to study! Check to see if your city offers anything similar. __________________ Boyd (stuck on rock) KI6RCM 1997 White FZJ 80 - "SuperMilquetoast" aka JAFW80 I'm not satisfied until you're not satisfied. |
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Guy Fawkes Lives!
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Thanks! __________________ 1996 FZJ80 (original owner) Black & Oak, 105k miles with factory F/R lockers, CDL switch, hand throttle, OME Springs & Shocks, ARB, Warn M12000, Milford Barrier, Dual Optima Blues, extended breathers, OEM dash cupholder, 285/75/16 BFG AT, Landtank seat rails, Slee AC dryer & T-case skid plates, Slee light & aux harnesses, Slee SS brake lines (frame->axle->caliper), V-1 with remote display, Icom IC-7000, Yaesu 8900R, Cobra 75wstx, Larsen NMO-2/70 & NMO-27, 100-series pads |
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Guy Fawkes Lives!
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I guess I'll call it a night and get back to work. __________________ 1996 FZJ80 (original owner) Black & Oak, 105k miles with factory F/R lockers, CDL switch, hand throttle, OME Springs & Shocks, ARB, Warn M12000, Milford Barrier, Dual Optima Blues, extended breathers, OEM dash cupholder, 285/75/16 BFG AT, Landtank seat rails, Slee AC dryer & T-case skid plates, Slee light & aux harnesses, Slee SS brake lines (frame->axle->caliper), V-1 with remote display, Icom IC-7000, Yaesu 8900R, Cobra 75wstx, Larsen NMO-2/70 & NMO-27, 100-series pads |
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V8J60 - TPI
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I am taking my Technician test on 8/10. I regularly am scoring in the 90% range on HAM TEST ONLINE. Do you guys feel the questions on the website are representative of the actual test? Should I feel confident that if I am scoring in the 90% range on the practice test that I will pass the exam?
Thanks Dynosoar Hopefully soon to be a
__________________ '82 V8J60 - TPI 350 with a Turbo 400 attached to a splitcase, Cable Locker FF rear end, 4" SUA (National Spring), Copper Metalic Has been south to Cabo San Lucas, BCS and North to Port Angels,WA. Call Sign: KI6SMP |
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Guy Fawkes Lives!
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Dynosoar: I don't know that exact site (I used the www.qrz.com practice tests b/c they are free). However, any questions should be the EXACT questions on the test b/c all the possible questions are published - there are no suprise secrets.
So all of the 35 questions you see on your Tech exam will come from the 200 possible questions that are public knowledge. Good luck! __________________ 1996 FZJ80 (original owner) Black & Oak, 105k miles with factory F/R lockers, CDL switch, hand throttle, OME Springs & Shocks, ARB, Warn M12000, Milford Barrier, Dual Optima Blues, extended breathers, OEM dash cupholder, 285/75/16 BFG AT, Landtank seat rails, Slee AC dryer & T-case skid plates, Slee light & aux harnesses, Slee SS brake lines (frame->axle->caliper), V-1 with remote display, Icom IC-7000, Yaesu 8900R, Cobra 75wstx, Larsen NMO-2/70 & NMO-27, 100-series pads |
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V8J60 - TPI
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I think the question pool is 393 questions? Ham Test online has a free component as well. I will try the test at QRZ and see how I do.
Thanks I just took two tests at qrz 1st 94% and 2nd 97% I may be ready to pass by 8/10!
__________________ '82 V8J60 - TPI 350 with a Turbo 400 attached to a splitcase, Cable Locker FF rear end, 4" SUA (National Spring), Copper Metalic Has been south to Cabo San Lucas, BCS and North to Port Angels,WA. Call Sign: KI6SMP Last edited by Dynosoar; 07-23-08 at 12:30 PM. |
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On the Golf Course!
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Dynosoar - pool is 392 and the free tests on QRZ are from the pool word for word. If you are scoring 90% plus on those, believe me you are good to go. I took the first 10 and was scoring like you are. You can miss every |