Another "What's the best GPS?" Thread...

cbmontgo · 03-05-07, 04:28 PM

I am going on a wheelin' and camping trip to Big Bend this spring and am considering getting a GPS. I have an old (circa 1996), outdated Lowrance that needs to be replaced. I couldn't find my way out of a paper sack with this thing.

I want one that has the following capabilities: Topo maps, windshield or dash-mountable, nice-sized screen and readout, compact, and relatively inexpensive.

I love the look of the Garmin Streetpilot 660/nuvi (my brother has one that he uses for highway travel), and wish that there was something like that for off-road use.

I probably won't use this thing too often, so even an older (read: cheaper) model might suffice. Any thoughts?

D'Animal · 03-05-07, 04:30 PM

I use a Garmin 3Plus and then went to a 5 series. I can get the topo for it so I'm sure you can get a topo for the street pilot.

Jomama · 03-05-07, 04:46 PM

I was just doing some research for a friend...

Neither the Streetpilot or Nuvi models allow you to upload ANY map software... All you can do is upload waypoints...

At least that is what I gather from the Garmin site. That would be dealbreaker for me. The pre-programed streetmaps would not cut it for me.

The Nuvi is dubbed a "travelers orginizer" and appears to be a kind of PDA for a tourist IMO.. Currency conversion, language translator, all types of tourist info...

The Streetpilots seem designed for a communter.

The Quest and Quest2 are the only models listed under the "Automotive" section that allow you to upload map software.
It appears to me to be a hybrid between a Auto based Nav system and a recreational handheld.. and has the features associated with both..

GulfShoresFJ60 · 03-05-07, 06:21 PM

I've got a Garmin 60CSx. I've used it in the truck for auto routing and it works well so far. It has an audible beep for the turns and nice zoom-in feature at the turns. I didn't buy the topo so no comment on that part. It is very handhold-able (if that's a word) and you can get a 12v plug for in the vehicle. I also got the RAM mount to mount it to the windshield. After my research this seems like a very good mix between a hiking hanheld GPS and an auto-routing vehicle GPS.

eleblanc · 03-05-07, 06:46 PM

I love my garmin etrex legend Cx. I had a Etrex Legend C, lost it and bought the Cx with 1 gig of memory sd card. Since i mainly use it for my ATV, being small is a plus. I can grab it and put it in my pocket. I also use it in my LC. The ram mount i use is RAP-F-166-GA16U like this one http://www.gpscity.ca/item-ram-mount...amb166ga16.htm except with a flexible wire instead of the knuckle has show.

And i have both topo and metro guide on the gps. IMHO topo is not worth it. When its time for navigation on roads topo do wierd things, metro guide is much better and will navigate even on almost unpractible roads. I has once using metro guide throught gravel roads and it made me go throught such a rough trail i had to turn around.....that was on my ATV. the trail had just been drain by water tho.

cbmontgo · 03-05-07, 07:04 PM

Thanks, guys. Are there any that have street/city names when driving on the interstate and topo software for driving off road? Maybe this is a reach...

spressomon · 03-05-07, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cbmontgo

Thanks, guys. Are there any that have street/city names when driving on the interstate and topo software for driving off road? Maybe this is a reach...

The Garmin Zumo series offers what you want and also the Lowrance Baja; Lowrance 350C, 500C, 600C. FYI: It is rumored new models from Garmin, Lowrance, et al will be introduced within the next 4-6 weeks...if you can trust the rumor mill

. It is rumored there will be a 'landscape' format version of the Zumo 550 ala Nuvi 660 size screen coming out...but again it's a rumor.

The Nuvi will actually run the Garmin Mapsource Topo's per Garmin tech except I beleive you lose the contour lines and of course have no ability to drop in routes, tracks, backtrack...and you'll figure out if you don't already know it is very difficult to find an automobile GPS that is fully topo compliant...and handhelds, that have can run the topo maps have smaller screens.

FYI: Costco online has the Garmin 2730 on sale for $499 right now (if they have any left)...you can download their topo maps but it will not display contour lines either.

Also a good site for info: www.gpspassion.com

cbmontgo · 03-05-07, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by spressomon

The Garmin Zumo series offers what you want and also the Lowrance Baja; Lowrance 350C, 500C, 600C. FYI: It is rumored new models from Garmin, Lowrance, et al will be introduced within the next 4-6 weeks...if you can trust the rumor mill

. It is rumored there will be a 'landscape' format version of the Zumo 550 ala Nuvi 660 size screen coming out...but again it's a rumor.

The Nuvi will actually run the Garmin Mapsource Topo's per Garmin tech except I beleive you lose the contour lines and of course have no ability to drop in routes, tracks, backtrack...and you'll figure out if you don't already know it is very difficult to find an automobile GPS that is fully topo compliant...and handhelds, that have can run the topo maps have smaller screens.

FYI: Costco online has the Garmin 2730 on sale for $499 right now (if they have any left)...you can download their topo maps but it will not display contour lines either.

Also a good site for info: www.gpspassion.com

Thanks! I'll look into those...

slider35 · 03-13-07, 08:23 PM

Garmin GPSMAP 76csx. Hands down the best all-around gps unit. Screen is large enough to see driving down the road. It fits in your pocket. It is waterproof. It floats.

Just get a screen protector for it. I forget the name of the company that makes a good one, but it's the same polymer they put on the leading edge of helicoptor rotor blades.

GulfShoresFJ60 · 03-13-07, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by slider35

Garmin GPSMAP 76csx. Hands down the best all-around gps unit. Screen is large enough to see driving down the road. It fits in your pocket. It is waterproof. It floats.

Just get a screen protector for it. I forget the name of the company that makes a good one, but it's the same polymer they put on the leading edge of helicoptor rotor blades.

I didn't like the position of the buttons on the 76 series. Especially when driving I don't block the screen while pressing buttons to change between screens.

78-FJ40 · 03-13-07, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cbmontgo

Thanks, guys. Are there any that have street/city names when driving on the interstate and topo software for driving off road? Maybe this is a reach...

The Garmin 60CSx, which I have, does all that. I use it off road with the Topo map and on road with the City Navigator maps. Works great.

cbmontgo · 03-14-07, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 78-FJ40

The Garmin 60CSx, which I have, does all that. I use it off road with the Topo map and on road with the City Navigator maps. Works great.

Thanks. I am going to look into this...

dmede808 · 03-14-07, 02:25 PM

I just found some info on a new Delorme GPS the other day, the Earthmate.

Never used one, but what I'm intrigued about is that it can upload actual Satalite & air photo images as well as scanned USGS topos. No other handheld unit lets you do that, that I am aware of (talking about scanned raster images not vector topo info). It also gives you real time tide info for your locations. Again most units only give you sun & moon tables but no tide info.

http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELi...minisite=10020

And the unti is pretty cheap considering the data that comes with it. You could pay around $300-$500 for a decent Garmin or Magellan unit and still have to fork out another $150 for the extra data.

Worth a look.

dave

GulfShoresFJ60 · 03-14-07, 02:26 PM

Yeah I use City Navigator in mine and it seems to work very well. Couldn't afford Topo though, so no comment on that. If you want to hold quite a bit of map info in the GPS, you might as well get a pretty big memory card. The 64 MB holds Alabama and a few surrounding areas. I think you can get a 1 GB card maybe even a 2 GB card.

brokenparts · 03-15-07, 10:13 AM

Garmin 276c. Not too expensive and does more than I need it too.

jonb96150 · 03-15-07, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dmede808

I just found some info on a new Delorme GPS the other day, the Earthmate.

Never used one, but what I'm intrigued about is that it can upload actual Satalite & air photo images as well as scanned USGS topos. No other handheld unit lets you do that, that I am aware of (talking about scanned raster images not vector topo info). It also gives you real time tide info for your locations. Again most units only give you sun & moon tables but no tide info.

http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELi...minisite=10020

And the unti is pretty cheap considering the data that comes with it. You could pay around $300-$500 for a decent Garmin or Magellan unit and still have to fork out another $150 for the extra data.

Worth a look.

dave

This is the one I'm looking at. It also accepts SD cards for even more memory. I have a really old magellan and I'm tired of manually extrapolating my position onto my paper maps and I don't like lugging a laptop around. This Delorme looks like the ticket.

dmede808 · 03-15-07, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jonb96150

This is the one I'm looking at. It also accepts SD cards for even more memory. I have a really old magellan and I'm tired of manually extrapolating my position onto my paper maps and I don't like lugging a laptop around. This Delorme looks like the ticket.

If you get it post back here how you like it. I'd like to hear some opinions on it from users. I have a Magellan also. Love it but it's very limited on data and a bit old.

paranoid56 · 03-17-07, 09:49 AM

another vote for the 60csx. i love mine. i have the 2gig card in mine with all the states loaded into it and some topo info also loaded. great little handheld waterproof GPS. I use it in both my car and off roading, and also geocaching

Shane

lc69hunter · 03-28-07, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jonb96150

This is the one I'm looking at. It also accepts SD cards for even more memory. I have a really old magellan and I'm tired of manually extrapolating my position onto my paper maps and I don't like lugging a laptop around. This Delorme looks like the ticket.

I just got mine in last night. It is awesome. I have an old Garmin 12XL and a Magellan Map 330, and this thing run rings around them as far as features.

The downside of that though is that there is more to learn and set- up.

However, even on a cold startup, after being shipped from Maine, it acquired, and was tracking 10 satelites within about 4 minutes. While sitting here at the computer, I turned it on and it acquired a good fix indoors in about 30 seconds.

I haven't downloaded any maps as of yet, so I can't address that.

jonb96150 · 03-30-07, 09:46 AM

Got it a few days ago and have not had time to really use it. I have downloaded local portions of topo6 and it shows my street. If I added the aerial images it would probably show my house.

Topo 6 on it's own does not show many of the Moab trails, just a couple of the popular bike trails. I'd like to see the aerial/satellite images of that area, you can layer them over the topo6 and you would be looking at sat' images of where you are or where you are going. With the purchase you get a credit for 150 sq. km if images and I have not decided which ones to get.

I'll try to get out in the sticks a bit this weekend and test it better. The hardware looks good and robust, probably even dunk proof. Menus are easy to navigate. Display is good.

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Originally Posted by dmede808

If you get it post back here how you like it. I'd like to hear some opinions on it from users. I have a Magellan also. Love it but it's very limited on data and a bit old.

LoneStar · 04-03-07, 05:55 AM

Costco has the Garmin Streetpilot 2720 on special for $349.99.

http://www.garmin.com/products/sp2720/
It will pronounce street names and has all of US and Canada loaded in memory. The optional traffic coverage has recently been upgraded: http://www.gpslodge.com/archives/009402.php

This is a great deal and Costco has a very liberal return policy.

Grolar · 04-03-07, 11:45 AM

The 2720 has been priced at 349.99 on Amazon for a while, but I suspect it'll soon be discontinued.

clownmidget · 04-04-07, 07:34 PM

I have the Garmin 76CSx, just a few more features than the 60CSx so might be worth comparing them. My one comment would be to get the external antenna if you are going to use it in your vehicle frequently. I've used several different handheld Garmins and a couple of Trimbles ($$$$) inside vehicles and the difference in reception, speed in acquiring sats, etc. really is worth the extra coin. It also opens up where you can mount it without having to worry about the built-in antenna getting reception. Try GPSCity.com for decent prices.

e9999 · 04-04-07, 08:29 PM

really happy with my Venture CX kinda like the 60 but smaller and a tad less powerful, and much cheaper

BladeRunner80 · 04-05-07, 10:46 AM

I use to have a Garmin eTrex Legend, sold it on craigslist and bought and old Garmin Streetpilot III color map. It came with a 32 meg card and some power adapters. I was able to score a copy of Garmin Topo maps and loaded most of WA onto the 32 meg, so far it seems to work pretty good. I think I paid like 150 after shipping for it.

laroche28 · 04-27-07, 12:59 PM

I had a garmin handheld and loved it. (until it was stolen

03-05-07, 04:28 PM	#1
cbmontgo IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Castle Rock, Colorado TLCA# 14207 Posts: 1,595	Another "What's the best GPS?" Thread... I am going on a wheelin' and camping trip to Big Bend this spring and am considering getting a GPS. I have an old (circa 1996), outdated Lowrance that needs to be replaced. I couldn't find my way out of a paper sack with this thing. I want one that has the following capabilities: Topo maps, windshield or dash-mountable, nice-sized screen and readout, compact, and relatively inexpensive. I love the look of the Garmin Streetpilot 660/nuvi (my brother has one that he uses for highway travel), and wish that there was something like that for off-road use. I probably won't use this thing too often, so even an older (read: cheaper) model might suffice. Any thoughts? __________________ 1985 rust-free, Arizona-raised FJ60 with 33s, OME 2.5", ARB bull bar, Hella 4000s and Warn M8000. 1988 FJ62, all stock...but this will soon change 1992 restored Canadian M101 1/4 ton trailer with rooftop tent

03-05-07, 04:30 PM	#2
D'Animal Beagles Rule! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central California TLCA# 17104 Posts: 10,078	I use a Garmin 3Plus and then went to a 5 series. I can get the topo for it so I'm sure you can get a topo for the street pilot. __________________ Cruiser Dan at American Toyota Phone is 1-800-432-6668 ext. 8 (I am not cruiser Dan)

03-05-07, 04:46 PM	#3
Jomama Charismatic Megafauna Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Anchorage AK TLCA# 3925 Posts: 286	I was just doing some research for a friend... Neither the Streetpilot or Nuvi models allow you to upload ANY map software... All you can do is upload waypoints... At least that is what I gather from the Garmin site. That would be dealbreaker for me. The pre-programed streetmaps would not cut it for me. The Nuvi is dubbed a "travelers orginizer" and appears to be a kind of PDA for a tourist IMO.. Currency conversion, language translator, all types of tourist info... The Streetpilots seem designed for a communter. The Quest and Quest2 are the only models listed under the "Automotive" section that allow you to upload map software. It appears to me to be a hybrid between a Auto based Nav system and a recreational handheld.. and has the features associated with both.. __________________ 1993 FZJ80, 160k, ARB Bullbar, OME J's, Slee Castor Plates, 285/75R16 BFG AT/KO's, HIR's, Slee Headlight Harness, Belli Horns. 1996 Triumph Tiger

03-05-07, 06:21 PM	#4
GulfShoresFJ60 War Eagle Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gulf Shores & Auburn, AL TLCA# 15437 Posts: 647	I've got a Garmin 60CSx. I've used it in the truck for auto routing and it works well so far. It has an audible beep for the turns and nice zoom-in feature at the turns. I didn't buy the topo so no comment on that part. It is very handhold-able (if that's a word) and you can get a 12v plug for in the vehicle. I also got the RAM mount to mount it to the windshield. After my research this seems like a very good mix between a hiking hanheld GPS and an auto-routing vehicle GPS. __________________ Caleb - Auburn University 1984 FJ60 - Restomod - 2F - H55F - 4.7:1 Toybox - ARB Front - Full-Floater w/Aussie Rear - Custom Rear Bumper - ARB Front Bumper w/Warn M8274 - 37 MTRs - Vinyl Floor 1983 FJ60 - Parts Rig 1966 Mustang Coupe - 289 w/ C4 My Site

03-05-07, 06:46 PM	#5
eleblanc BJ addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Montreal TLCA# 16338 Posts: 1,310	I love my garmin etrex legend Cx. I had a Etrex Legend C, lost it and bought the Cx with 1 gig of memory sd card. Since i mainly use it for my ATV, being small is a plus. I can grab it and put it in my pocket. I also use it in my LC. The ram mount i use is RAP-F-166-GA16U like this one http://www.gpscity.ca/item-ram-mount...amb166ga16.htm except with a flexible wire instead of the knuckle has show. And i have both topo and metro guide on the gps. IMHO topo is not worth it. When its time for navigation on roads topo do wierd things, metro guide is much better and will navigate even on almost unpractible roads. I has once using metro guide throught gravel roads and it made me go throught such a rough trail i had to turn around.....that was on my ATV. the trail had just been drain by water tho. __________________ 1983 BJ42LV 3B turbo diesel, 5 speed, power steering 24V Viair 450C, ARB locker front/rear, OME Heavy 4.56 R&P, BF Mud 255/85 (34") Warn M12000 24Volt http://www.ericleblanc.com/gallery/m...p?g2_itemId=20 Last edited by eleblanc; 03-05-07 at 06:53 PM.

03-05-07, 07:04 PM	#6
cbmontgo IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Castle Rock, Colorado TLCA# 14207 Posts: 1,595	Thanks, guys. Are there any that have street/city names when driving on the interstate and topo software for driving off road? Maybe this is a reach... __________________ 1985 rust-free, Arizona-raised FJ60 with 33s, OME 2.5", ARB bull bar, Hella 4000s and Warn M8000. 1988 FJ62, all stock...but this will soon change 1992 restored Canadian M101 1/4 ton trailer with rooftop tent

03-13-07, 08:23 PM	#9
slider35 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13	Garmin GPSMAP 76csx. Hands down the best all-around gps unit. Screen is large enough to see driving down the road. It fits in your pocket. It is waterproof. It floats. Just get a screen protector for it. I forget the name of the company that makes a good one, but it's the same polymer they put on the leading edge of helicoptor rotor blades. __________________ 2000 TLC stock on the outside. All kinds of gadgets on the inside. 162k and counting...

03-14-07, 02:25 PM	#13
dmede808 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF Bay Area - Redwood City Posts: 337	I just found some info on a new Delorme GPS the other day, the Earthmate. Never used one, but what I'm intrigued about is that it can upload actual Satalite & air photo images as well as scanned USGS topos. No other handheld unit lets you do that, that I am aware of (talking about scanned raster images not vector topo info). It also gives you real time tide info for your locations. Again most units only give you sun & moon tables but no tide info. http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELi...minisite=10020 And the unti is pretty cheap considering the data that comes with it. You could pay around $300-$500 for a decent Garmin or Magellan unit and still have to fork out another $150 for the extra data. Worth a look. dave

03-14-07, 02:26 PM	#14
GulfShoresFJ60 War Eagle Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gulf Shores & Auburn, AL TLCA# 15437 Posts: 647	Yeah I use City Navigator in mine and it seems to work very well. Couldn't afford Topo though, so no comment on that. If you want to hold quite a bit of map info in the GPS, you might as well get a pretty big memory card. The 64 MB holds Alabama and a few surrounding areas. I think you can get a 1 GB card maybe even a 2 GB card. __________________ Caleb - Auburn University 1984 FJ60 - Restomod - 2F - H55F - 4.7:1 Toybox - ARB Front - Full-Floater w/Aussie Rear - Custom Rear Bumper - ARB Front Bumper w/Warn M8274 - 37 MTRs - Vinyl Floor 1983 FJ60 - Parts Rig 1966 Mustang Coupe - 289 w/ C4 My Site

03-15-07, 10:13 AM	#15
brokenparts IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hillsboro, OR TLCA# 16127 Posts: 2,351	Garmin 276c. Not too expensive and does more than I need it too. __________________ "Just bump it" I am offended by reality all the time. http://www.cascadecruisers.com/ http://www.myspace.com/zachsu ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/198064-rotw-brokenparts-fj-60-a.html

03-17-07, 09:49 AM	#18
paranoid56 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, CA TLCA# 12202 Posts: 450	another vote for the 60csx. i love mine. i have the 2gig card in mine with all the states loaded into it and some topo info also loaded. great little handheld waterproof GPS. I use it in both my car and off roading, and also geocaching Shane __________________ 1971 FJ40 w/ rust 1984 Toyota 4x4 Xcab rock cralwer 2006 Subaru WRX wagon Want some GPS items? PM me for prices camotoy "Of all the things I have lost, I miss my mind the most"

04-03-07, 05:55 AM	#21
LoneStar IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Carrollton, TX TLCA# 16156 Posts: 85	Costco has the Garmin Streetpilot 2720 on special for $349.99. http://www.garmin.com/products/sp2720/ It will pronounce street names and has all of US and Canada loaded in memory. The optional traffic coverage has recently been upgraded: http://www.gpslodge.com/archives/009402.php This is a great deal and Costco has a very liberal return policy. __________________ '97 fzj80-40th anniv., ARB Bullbar, OME, Landtank MAF, Waeco Fridge/Freezer, Car-Top-Tent

04-03-07, 11:45 AM	#22
Grolar Sick and destroyed Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Below the Hollywood sign Posts: 804	The 2720 has been priced at 349.99 on Amazon for a while, but I suspect it'll soon be discontinued. __________________ 12/94 FZJ80, 132k, stock but carbon neutral. Gallery "You can't fight in here, this is the war room!" FOR SALE: Infant car seat

04-04-07, 07:34 PM	#23
clownmidget IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ithaca, New York Posts: 1,813	I have the Garmin 76CSx, just a few more features than the 60CSx so might be worth comparing them. My one comment would be to get the external antenna if you are going to use it in your vehicle frequently. I've used several different handheld Garmins and a couple of Trimbles ($$$$) inside vehicles and the difference in reception, speed in acquiring sats, etc. really is worth the extra coin. It also opens up where you can mount it without having to worry about the built-in antenna getting reception. Try GPSCity.com for decent prices. __________________ Mike R. hmmm....nuthin' Answer a fool according to his own folly.

04-04-07, 08:29 PM	#24
e9999 You want to do what...? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: PRK Posts: 10,206	really happy with my Venture CX kinda like the 60 but smaller and a tad less powerful, and much cheaper __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD souped up DR650

04-05-07, 10:46 AM	#25
BladeRunner80 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle, WA TLCA# 17776 Posts: 322	I use to have a Garmin eTrex Legend, sold it on craigslist and bought and old Garmin Streetpilot III color map. It came with a 32 meg card and some power adapters. I was able to score a copy of Garmin Topo maps and loaded most of WA onto the 32 meg, so far it seems to work pretty good. I think I paid like 150 after shipping for it. __________________ 67' LAND CRUISER FJ40 • 07' FJ CRUISER "I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass and I'm all out of bubblegum" PROJECT EYE CANDY!

04-27-07, 12:59 PM	#26
laroche28 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3	I had a garmin handheld and loved it. (until it was stolen