South/Central American vs. Noth American

[diesel4x4]

Quote:
Originally Posted by NorCalCruzr
I misread your post and assumed it was a BJ42 diesel. Why import an FJ40 from Indonesia when you can get a N. American model (though pricey)? It has to be perfect and cheap to do this. Also, I don't know about Ind. but in Latin America the 40 series didn't have the updates like they did in N. America--e.g., I saw a 1984 BJ40 with the B engine, drum brakes, no roll bar, old interior etc.


Can someone elaborate on the "updates" available on BJ models. Were disk brakes, power steering, roll bars, A/C not an option and what is the difference b/w old and new interior? Also, how do these updates apply to the years 1975-80?

[crushers]

i can only speak for canadian spec BJ40
diesel came out in 77
disc front were in all the BJ40 in canada
H42 tranny was the only option in canada
4.11 gears were the only option in canada
hard top was only option here as well
manual steering was the only option.

basicly you walked into the dealership and got your choice of colour (if they had more than one)

so far from Japan i have seen:
drums all around
H41 tranny
4.11 gears
manual steering
soft top or hard top
40 or 43 or 44 series
big ass starters
fender mount mirrors or door mount

that is all i know for sure.
sorry i can not help out more.
cheers

[lshobie]

I did see a gaser 40 in Canada years ago, was either a 1982 or 1984 with factory power steering and A/C. I will assume it was an US truck.

[crushers]

yes the gassers in 1980 (last year we in Canada got the gasser) they did have the PS option although i have never seen one with AC, i did hear it was an option though...
in 1983 the BJ42 got the PS and the H55F and option of AC
in 1981 the engine size went from B to 3B
in Japan only they had an option of the 2B

cheers

[cruiser_guy]

The BJ40's in Central America are pretty basic trucks, drums all around no dash pads. Think as bare bones as possible but with an H41 IF it's a 4 speed. I've seen an '80 with the old 3 speed!!

[diesel4x4]

Cruiser...do you see many 70's LC trucks down there? A buddy of mine has a 78' w/ a diesel engine(not sure of the exact model #) in Costa Rica and I think his had power steering and AC installed, but again, i'm not certain. I assume it has drums. Is it difficult to install these items if not alrready present? Also, have you ever heard of LC's refered to as a "Bandeirante"?

[cruiser_guy]

Lots of '70 series. Troopies for ambulances, pickups as farm vehicles as well as the short wheel base version. The drum to disc swap is pretty easy although I'd assume that the '70 series are new enough that Toyota didn't mess with drums on those. I installed A/C on my BJ60 (Canadian truck since I'm from Canada) using FJ60 stuff other than the compressor mount and A/C amplifier and it wasn't a big deal. We don't have the Bandeirante here, at least not that I've seen.

[crushers]

i had heard that diesel was pretty rare down in SA, and that gassers were the vehicle of choice amongst the farmers and trademen...
no?

[diesel4x4]

Sorry for the confusion...I meant 1970's LC not 70's series. Do you see many of them? I'm will be going to see one owned by a friend of a friend in Costa Rica. It'is a truck and the bed was converted with fittings for collecting coffee beans at a coffee plantation. Don't have pic's yet, but I would like to put the above mentioned modifications on it.

[Tapage]

Here in Panamá all 40 series Land Cruiser around 1970 come with drums, B of F engines, 3speed respective transfer.

[cruiser_guy]

Originally Posted by crushers

i had heard that diesel was pretty rare down in SA, and that gassers were the vehicle of choice amongst the farmers and trademen...
no?

Wayne, that's in Venezuela which is an OPEC nation. In countries who need to buy their fuel on the open market diesel is prevalent (like here in Central America). We get diesel 'Cruisers, 4Runners we even see diesel S10's, Blazers and Ford Rangers with the 2.8 Powerstroke.

[cruiser_guy]

Originally Posted by diesel4x4

Sorry for the confusion...I meant 1970's LC not 70's series. Do you see many of them? I'm will be going to see one owned by a friend of a friend in Costa Rica. It'is a truck and the bed was converted with fittings for collecting coffee beans at a coffee plantation. Don't have pic's yet, but I would like to put the above mentioned modifications on it.

I'd check out the frame carefully, friends of mine here tell me that the 'Cruiser pickups here usually die of a busted frame due to severe overloading. I also would not plan on driving it back from Costa Rica unless you KNOW it was properly maintained. Here in Central America they beat the crap out of the trucks and bandaid them together to keep things going!

[crushers]

Originally Posted by cruiser_guy

Wayne, that's in Venezuela which is an OPEC nation. In countries who need to buy their fuel on the open market diesel is prevalent (like here in Central America). We get diesel 'Cruisers, 4Runners we even see diesel S10's, Blazers and Ford Rangers with the 2.8 Powerstroke.

i sit informed, thank you... must be nice to see vehicles we never knew existed...
cheers

[cruiser_guy]

Originally Posted by crushers

i sit informed, thank you... must be nice to see vehicles we never knew existed...
cheers

It's different! Bet you never knew that there were turbo-diesel S10's or Blazers? I've heard of the Ford 2.8 Powerstroke before seeing it but I can't remember if that was at home this summer or down here.
We also see lots of Asian vehicles like Wuling, Chana and other weird brands (they are so small you don't even need to lean over to open the passenger window!) as well as European ones like Renault and Fiat which we don't see much at home.

[diesel4x4]

Originally Posted by cruiser_guy

I'd check out the frame carefully, friends of mine here tell me that the 'Cruiser pickups here usually die of a busted frame due to severe overloading. I also would not plan on driving it back from Costa Rica unless you KNOW it was properly maintained. Here in Central America they beat the crap out of the trucks and bandaid them together to keep things going!

The truck appeared to be in great shape. Body, paint and interior in good condition. The owner has given it alot of love, however, i did not get under it to look at the frame. I'm not sure what to look for under a rig. Any suggestions?

[brownbear]

I think that Damm Mercan EPA screws with canadian imports........

[roscoFJ73]

Im pretty sure this BJ had PS ,dics brakes and aircon and 5sp.
It had a black and red cloth int with a forward facing rear seat.
I never noticed the 3 windscreen wipers until someone pointed it out

[crushers]

i thought the 3 wiper blades denoted the high end LX model...
not sure but that is what i thought i read somewhere...
cheers

[Exiled]

Originally Posted by crushers

i thought the 3 wiper blades denoted the high end LX model...
not sure but that is what i thought i read somewhere...
cheers

It does. Check out the picture above carefully and you can see the striped upholstery and forward-facing folding rear seat of the LX model.

[Eric Winkworth]

there is an LX emblem on it, thats pimp!

[roscoFJ73]

Originally Posted by Exiled

It does. Check out the picture above carefully and you can see the striped upholstery and forward-facing folding rear seat of the LX model.

I think the rear seat was a bench and a single. The bench folded forward and the single seat folded to the side.
Unfrtunately it was rotten from a bad resto.
It was engineless and I think the owner was contemplating a sbc swap but give up because of the rust.
It also had the sought after dashpad. Int was intact and in good cond.
I had an option on a good 3B at the time and considered fitting it into this.

These were not rare here but most of them have had the guts ripped out them by now

Real shame about the body

Im sorry I didnt get some int pics but it was raining hard.
You can see the rear seat a little better here.

And what makes the inside of a diesel exhaust go white,overheated perhaps??

[FL cruiser]

In the late 70's and early 80's , BJ40's were shipped to Costa Rica partially unassembled. Once there, the bodies were bolted together.
They did this because duty taxes were much less if imported this way.
New enclosed "luxury" vehicles at the time had 200% to 300% duty tax.
80% of the vehicles sold in Costa Rica for a few years there were Land Cruisers because they were cheap. Still pricey at $20K, but half the price of anything else.
All were basic. Drum brakes B engine, no heat or defrost, no rollbar.

I went to the dealer there in 1981 looking at them. They did sell the updated BJ40's with the 3B engine, disc brakes etc. But they were imported as a complete vehicle, so they cost alot more at almost $60,000. That one sat on the showroom floor for a year. Needless to say they didn't sell many/any.

[Tapage]

wwoooou .. !!!! :shock: 60k USD for a 40 series in 1981 it was a lots of money .. !!!

[Grease Cruiser]

FWIW the Bandeirante was only available in Brazil. This was the name given to the Cruisers made at the factory in Brazil. They had the liscensing and tooling to make them from toyota. They made them up until a few years ago. Lots of different body styles that Toyota Japan never made. They also came with 5 cylinder Mercedes diesel motors. They basically used what they had.

Also, listen to Cruiserguy. I have spent quite a bit of time in Central America and they use their Cruisers HARD. They beat the ever living crap out of them. They may look pretty due to cheap body work available down there. What you don't see is: Lots of Bondo and bent or broken frames.

A friend of mine has a 1976 HJ45 pickup that looked really nice when it came into the US. After a winter of being here in Colorado, the body looks like shit. Large pieces of bondo literally fell off of the truck.

Also, Central American Cruisers came as CKD's (completetly knocked down). They generally do not have heaters, AC, disc brakes, etc. I am speaking of the older 40 series. Now for the 70 series, they have the shit! 6 cylinder turbo diesel, full float rears, AC, PS, etc. Although, I don't recall ever seeing any with power windows or door locks. I want one bad!

[Eric Winkworth]

I would think the inside of the exhast would be white from burning coolent.

Sorry to highjack the post, but any idea on how much a CDN spec BJ70 was worth in 1986? I'm just curious

[Josie'sLandCruiser]

Hi All:

Wayne, I thought the Canadian-spec BJ40s had the H42 tranny and 3.7 ratio diff gears? Then, the '83 & '84 BJ42 had the H55F tranny and 4.1 ratio diffs?

Regards,

Alan
Seattle
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"crushers" wrote:

>i can only speak for canadian spec BJ40
diesel came out in 77
disc front were in all the BJ40 in canada
H42 tranny was the only option in canada
4.11 gears were the only option in canada
hard top was only option here as well
manual steering was the only option.

basicly you walked into the dealership and got your choice of colour (if they had more than one)

[crushers]

this is a common misconception. the diesel 40/42 had the 4.11 gear sets int eh rear. the gassers went to 3.7 in 77...
the tranny is right though all the 4 speeds that came into canada (that i have SEEN) have been H42. the 5 speeds are the H55F. i have heard rumours of the H41 slipping in but i have yet to see one...
the Japanese spec 40/42/43/44/46 all seem to be the H41 or the H55F.
all the FJ45s in canada are 4.11 gear sets with the H42 tranny...
cheers