1hd-ft swap qustions....

[cruiseruser]

I'm wondering how many people have done this and can comment on what they learned through the experience. In August I'm intending to install one mated to a 5 speed, (both are still in the process of being shipped to me.) I won't be doing the work myself, justfloating the bill Any comments are appreciated.

[beanz2]

A guy in BC did that to an LX450, but IIRC it was an automatic. I think the owner may be on this board, but ask 70sguy or Greg_B who it was.

Do a search.

Dave

[cruiseruser]

Thanks for the tip, I've met him and checked out his rig, It's amazing. Jim is very nice as well. It may be that his is is the first and mine will be the second but I was hoping to talk to people about it. Incidently, I will be using the same mechanic he used. Take care.

[Mike S]

Originally Posted by cruiseruser

Thanks for the tip, I've met him and checked out his rig, It's amazing. Jim is very nice as well. It may be that his is is the first and mine will be the second but I was hoping to talk to people about it. Incidently, I will be using the same mechanic he used. Take care.

Please post and let us know how this works out... I am unteredted in a 1HD-T or 1HD-FT swap as well.

Mike S

[Greg_B]

Originally Posted by cruiseruser

Thanks for the tip, I've met him and checked out his rig, It's amazing. Jim is very nice as well. It may be that his is is the first and mine will be the second but I was hoping to talk to people about it. Incidently, I will be using the same mechanic he used. Take care.

So your's is going into an 80 as well I take it? Yours will be the 2rd I am aware of in this area, as Raymond's was a 1HD-T with 5spd. You will be in good hands as Raymond is all over what is needed though his install on Jims truck.

Have you gone through the post in the 80 series section which went over some of the install?

Sheldon is just gathering all the bits and pieces for his 1HD-T conversion.

Is Raymond doing the BEB's as a precaution?

Good luck, and post up some pics and your impressions after it is done!

gb

[cruiseruser]

I will Mike. I really wanted to get the most power and fuel economy possible. After Sheldon let me know how rare the 1hd-ft was from his source, I started searching in the U.K. I ended up finding mine on e-bay for about $1500U.S. engine only, with 35k miles on it. I'm buying the 5-speed, transfer case, and the rest of the bits for about $2300U.S. I'm thinking shipping will run another $1800. And finally the install! ?$? -Ryan

[cruiseruser]

Hey GB, yeah I've got a '96 80 series. I did go through some of those posts and got so worked up that I had to go ask the questions in person where the visual aids are much beter! But I will go back and give those a more thorough look. You know Raymond hasn't mentioned the Big end bearings at all. I haven't heard of them being too much of an issue with the ft's, what's your perspective? Having seen Raymonds work and how close he comes tomaking it look like Toyota put it together, puts me at ease. I can't wait to share the shots and blow-by-blow. Take care, Ryan.

[dingdong]

So whacha gonna do with the 1FZ-FE? Just curious.

[crushers]

this is where we will differ, i recommend the 1HZ (135 hp), add a trubo (185 hp) and then the propane injection (225 hp), tweak the tunning and fuel, up the boost, larger exhaust and you will be over the 250 hp easily.
in the right hands i could see the 1HZ putting out 300 hp...
cheers

[cruiseruser]

I will be looking to sell the whole stock set-up, It has 100K on it. Hey Wayne, I've heard the design of the 1hz restricts how well it can breathe, is that crazy? The guys I've talked to seem to get around 23mpg out of their 1hz's even with the 5 speed. It seems I'll be approaching 30mpg with the set-up I'm getting. With all the effort it's taking me to get this engine in, I'm leaning towards boosting the power just a liitle (maybe 25%,) so that I won't compromise engine life. But that doesn't change the fact I want ride in your rocket cruiser when your done!

[crushers]

book a plane ticket it is here and ready for a test rides...
;^)
at 60 mph the beast gets documented 23.7 mpg on 35' boots... open the bugger up and the fuel milage drops to about 18 mpg...
i have not heard of the HDT getting better than 25 mpg but if you drove for fuel conservation it might happen...
what is your gearing and tire size?
cheers

[cruiseruser]

Hey Wayne, you bet that will be on my wish list of trips to check out your rig. I can almost hear her pur from here! Right now I'm still stock. Probably end up with 33's.
I've heard the 1hd-ft does better than the 1-hd's do for fuel economy. Take care, Ryan

[Greg_B]

Originally Posted by cruiseruser

I haven't heard of them being too much of an issue with the ft's, what's your perspective? Having seen Raymonds work and how close he comes tomaking it look like Toyota put it together, puts me at ease. I can't wait to share the shots and blow-by-blow. Take care, Ryan.

I think the jury is out. Best bet is to check the Ozzy boards, and also this link:http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/main_4x4.htm and read his links. Most deal with the 1HD-T, but occationally I have read a report saying the problem extended past the 1HD-T. I also have seen posts where bearings have been pulled, checked and no problems seen. The donor engine is low enough kms to perhaps leave for a bit, as you can do later with the engine in the truck. What is the cost of checking vs not checking? Raymond is a wealth of info, I would trust his judgement...

gb

[Radd Cruisers]

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Is Raymond doing the BEB's as a precaution?

Good luck, and post up some pics and your impressions after it is done!

gb[/quote]


At the time I did the bearings on Rays engine and still have a couple sets kicking around.

In the end I purchased a gear head motor stand, you can drink your coffee while cranking the engine into the position your want, OTC makes great tools.

Only problem is I only used it once, thinking Sheldon and Greg could better utilize this tool.

[harveya]

If the engine is out of the truck, it's worth doing the big ends anyway, worth pulling the head and the sump, swapping them out and putting it back together. for a few hours extra work and a set of Big ends (about £40 in the UK) it's got to be worth the time spent as you can also get an idea of the state of the engine with it partially dismantled - swarf in the sump etc.

My 1HDT gets about 26mpg on a run at 70mph, drops to about 20 around town. Far better than my old 2.4TD Hilux Surf which would only get about 21mpg at best. The 1H engines are prtty economical for their size and have a nice big fat load of torque and can also be pretty easily upgraded by using one of the intercooler kits from Australia - I shall be getting one in the next year for mine.

[cruiseruser]

Thanks for the advice Andy.Seems to make good sense to me. -Ryan

[drexx]

22Jun2005 (UTC +8)

How about motor mounts? A local guy here say that I can swap out my 1995 1FZ-FE with A442F auto tranny, pay about US$2,128 and have a 200x 1HD-FTE with A442F combo installed (including labor).

I think it's kinda a good deal, but I'm not so sure yet. As of this time, I have no clue about the 1HD-FTE & A442F conditions, while my Arab-spec 1FZ-FE has a very, very healthy engine compression and valve clearance ratings.

[Radd Cruisers]

Originally Posted by drexx

22Jun2005 (UTC +8)

How about motor mounts? A local guy here say that I can swap out my 1995 1FZ-FE with A442F auto tranny, pay about US$2,128 and have a 200x 1HD-FTE with A442F combo installed (including labor).

I think it's kinda a good deal, but I'm not so sure yet. As of this time, I have no clue about the 1HD-FTE & A442F conditions, while my Arab-spec 1FZ-FE has a very, very healthy engine compression and valve clearance ratings.

Kind of a rocking deal seeing as he will a have a lot of electrical to deal with.

Otherwise a direct bolt in, cool how toyota made the duel mounts for diesl or gas.


WOW..........

[Tapage]

mmmm I thought that 1HZ engine was awsome engine .. but 1HD-T is other history ..

170 HP from Stock, you may up the bar on turbo, and catch maybe 200 HP with out propane.

But, I don't know about bolt on propane inyection kit .. ! the issue is as always $$$ hoy much you can spend in your engine to get real power ..

[crushers]

biased opinion.
Propane is worth every penny....
love mine,
cheers

[harveya]

Originally Posted by Tapage

mmmm I thought that 1HZ engine was awsome engine .. but 1HD-T is other history ..

170 HP from Stock, you may up the bar on turbo, and catch maybe 200 HP with out propane.

But, I don't know about bolt on propane inyection kit .. ! the issue is as always $$$ hoy much you can spend in your engine to get real power ..

1HD-FTE - 200bhp from stock and even better torque, just the electronics and 24 Valves to deal with. Still a great engine through with all the reliability of the other 1H engines.

Intercooler from Australia will release another 25% power and torque and improve the economy for around 1500 bucks or there abouts.

[Tapage]

Originally Posted by harveya

1HD-FTE - 200bhp from stock and even better torque, just the electronics and 24 Valves to deal with. Still a great engine through with all the reliability of the other 1H engines.

Intercooler from Australia will release another 25% power and torque and improve the economy for around 1500 bucks or there abouts.

yes .. 1HD-FTE is a real great engine .. but deal with this electronicals parts are not easy job, and this engine already has intercooler ( this is the real reazon to pas from FT to FTE and from 180 HP to + 200 )

I'm agree you can modify the turbo and put other intercooler .. but you don't that Toyota already study this all posibilities ..

[harveya]

Originally Posted by Tapage

yes .. 1HD-FTE is a real great engine .. but deal with this electronicals parts are not easy job, and this engine already has intercooler ( this is the real reazon to pas from FT to FTE and from 180 HP to + 200 )

I'm agree you can modify the turbo and put other intercooler .. but you don't that Toyota already study this all posibilities ..

Yep you are right, talking about the Intercooler for the 1HDT more than the 24Valve motors.

Personally I wouldn't modify the turbo, better proposition would be the intercooler and a more free flowing exhaust. The Turbo (CT20) on the 1HDT and FT engines is quite small and doesn't work to it's best capacity with the standard exhausts - can't spool up fast enough.

Problem with the standard from Toyota engines is that Toyota do a really good job of covering all the possibilities - however they have to make the engine meet a whole bunch of things, reliability (they got that one cracked on the 1H engines), emissions, evryday driveability, cost, etc etc, consequently the engines don't always produce the power or torque that they could with a few modifications.

However all that being said, I will be getting an intercooler for my 1HDT but mainly for the improved economy and reliability. I find the 1HDT more than powerful for my needs, cruises at 90mph without even breaking sweat and gets there pretty quick for a reasonably large truck to.

Won't beat a Dodge Ram pickup off the lights, but personally I don't care. I'll still be driving my Cruiser in 200K miles when some more powerful machines have broken into pieces or had new engines.

[Tapage]

I'm underestand and I stay totaly agree with your opinion about the releability and fuel economy etc etc .. that need to be considered by Toyota.

And off course 1HD-T is my dream .. but for now I need to take out the best benefit that I can from my modest 2H engine ..

[Mike S]

Originally Posted by harveya

...However all that being said, I will be getting an intercooler for my 1HDT but mainly for the improved economy and reliability. I find the 1HDT more than powerful for my needs, cruises at 90mph without even breaking sweat and gets there pretty quick for a reasonably large truck to.

I am seriously considering a 1HD-T for my FJ60. For the reasons that you state above. My knowledge of Toyota Diesel engines is limited, so I am interested to hear about your mileage, gearing, and especially, what intercooler works well witht the 1HD-T.

Thanks for uour comments.

M

[Tapage]

In a good maintenance the 1HD-T engine easy get up over 300 Km, the only cons are the timing belt vs gears in 2H, 2H-T and B series engines ..

The intercooler helps .. ! yess of course, and to much, good intercooler and more presure in the turbo system doing a lots ..

Note that the CT-20 stay rated by stock to 9 psi.

[harveya]

Originally Posted by Mike S

I am seriously considering a 1HD-T for my FJ60. For the reasons that you state above. My knowledge of Toyota Diesel engines is limited, so I am interested to hear about your mileage, gearing, and especially, what intercooler works well witht the 1HD-T.

Thanks for uour comments.

M

I looked at one from Australia from Air Power Systems. The APS Safari intercooler at 1700 A$ plus shipping. Looks good to me.

The mileage on mine is 140K Miles, gearing is standard (not sure what the ratio is). I will be looking to het the Intercooler later this year or next year money permitting.

The APS intercooler is a front mount unit that goes in front of the A/C condenser behind the grill. All fits up neat so you wouldn't know that it is fitted from the outside. Looks a really well designed system.

I get about 26mpg overall at the moment with the stock engine - it's an auto, manuals can get up to 30mpg.

[acylon]

I am currrently looking into a diesel swap for a fj80 too. I wonder if we could get a group deal from your mechanic, HAHA, JK. I do live in the NW US. What is the differnce between 1HD-T and 1HD-FT? What is the mechanics number?