Shifting da H55F

89GASHOG · 05-10-05, 10:53 AM

Although I really enjoy driving the BJ70, I don't have a good feel for shifting from 2nd gear through 4th. It seems that the engine especially lugs when shifted into 3rd as the RPM's really drop. Guess I'm shifting too early? (running 235's) Didn't think the diesel was supposed to be revved up much. Thanks, Bret

crushers · 05-10-05, 11:01 AM

you can shift the 3B up to 4000 rpm, i usually like to shift from 2nd into 3rd at about 3000-3500 rpm since there is quite a gap between those gears...
cheers

89GASHOG · 05-10-05, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crushers

you can shift the 3B up to 4000 rpm, i usually like to shift from 2nd into 3rd at about 3000-3500 rpm since there is quite a gap between those gears...
cheers

Yes, there is quite a gap between 2nd and 3rd. I've been shifting even before 2500 RPM

Thanks much.

wesintl · 05-10-05, 11:33 AM

I usually shift it about 3k ... but wow up to 3500-4k.. I've never done that

Stone · 05-10-05, 11:39 AM

My 13BT doesn't sound too happy after 3k RPM...although redline is well above that. I usually shift at around 2400 RPM...but I guess a TDI engine is different. Of course shifting at a high RPM will affect fuel economy.

crushers · 05-10-05, 11:45 AM

3500 isn't that high and yes it does affect fuel economy (but then you know i really do not care too much about the milage as long as it is still better than a gasser)
the old 3Bs i used to drive always got shifted high from 2nd to 3rd. the 1HZ likes hte higher rpms and once that PZ gets here i will find out if it is true that they shift closer to 5000 rpm max...

(wintery day here so just hanging by the computer getting some paper work out of the way...)
cheers

lowenbrau · 05-10-05, 12:10 PM

The mines found that the PZs lasted way longer when they dialed the no load RPM govenor from 4900 back to 4150 like the 3Bs.

I find that there is rarely a situation where the engine is serving me better at a speed higher than 3500. I can nearly always grab another gear at that point.

crushers · 05-10-05, 01:04 PM

that is true Bruce but i am wondering if i am going to like the longer legs that the higher rpms will allow...

Eric Winkworth · 05-10-05, 03:09 PM

SO when I shift from 2nd to 3rd that really is the engine bogging a bit, seems like it is universal slop. Still gonna replace them, as there prolly orginal and feel kinda sloppy

crushers · 05-10-05, 04:11 PM

curious as to why you think it is ujoint slop when it only happens between the 2 gears...
cheers

dieseldog · 05-10-05, 04:44 PM

I never really wind into first gear . . . I shift into second quickly; however, I wind out second a good bit as I have always known there is a big jump to third gear. It's no big deal. I also have noticed it more since I've put 265/70R17's on both of my 70's. If I don't really wind out second, I feel it bog down. These are not close-ratio BMW gearsets folks. LOL. There has to be a price paid for having such a low first and second gear.

05-10-05, 10:53 AM	#1
89GASHOG IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Latitude 58 Posts: 709	Shifting da H55F Although I really enjoy driving the BJ70, I don't have a good feel for shifting from 2nd gear through 4th. It seems that the engine especially lugs when shifted into 3rd as the RPM's really drop. Guess I'm shifting too early? (running 235's) Didn't think the diesel was supposed to be revved up much. Thanks, Bret __________________ Bret Juneau, Ak 1989 FJ62 3FE 122K 1992 Toy short cab 4x4 22RE 175K

05-10-05, 11:01 AM	#2
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,793	you can shift the 3B up to 4000 rpm, i usually like to shift from 2nd into 3rd at about 3000-3500 rpm since there is quite a gap between those gears... cheers __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today

05-10-05, 11:33 AM	#4
wesintl IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver TLCA# 4180 Posts: 3,586	I usually shift it about 3k ... but wow up to 3500-4k.. I've never done that __________________ 1964 FJ40 \| 1966 M416 \| 1976 FJ40 \| 1985 BJ70 Volvo Power\| 1997 FZJ80 \| TDI commuter car Rising Sun; Former CLCC You should be able to delete your own thread. Communists abound Real Change is here --> Cato Institute

05-10-05, 11:39 AM	#5
Stone IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: May 2004 Location: BC, Canada TLCA# 13772 Posts: 1,992	My 13BT doesn't sound too happy after 3k RPM...although redline is well above that. I usually shift at around 2400 RPM...but I guess a TDI engine is different. Of course shifting at a high RPM will affect fuel economy. __________________ Stone's Land Cruiser & Flyfishing Pics Flyfishing British Columbia: www.flyfishbc.com bcfishingreports.com

05-10-05, 11:45 AM	#6
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,793	3500 isn't that high and yes it does affect fuel economy (but then you know i really do not care too much about the milage as long as it is still better than a gasser) the old 3Bs i used to drive always got shifted high from 2nd to 3rd. the 1HZ likes hte higher rpms and once that PZ gets here i will find out if it is true that they shift closer to 5000 rpm max... (wintery day here so just hanging by the computer getting some paper work out of the way...) cheers __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today

05-10-05, 12:10 PM	#7
lowenbrau IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Calgary AB TLCA# 5513 Posts: 2,495	The mines found that the PZs lasted way longer when they dialed the no load RPM govenor from 4900 back to 4150 like the 3Bs. I find that there is rarely a situation where the engine is serving me better at a speed higher than 3500. I can nearly always grab another gear at that point. __________________ Rocky Mountain Land Cruiser Association TLCA # 5513 '87BJ74, '86BJ70, '78FJ45, '53M100, '90M101cdn I support our Troopies

05-10-05, 01:04 PM	#8
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,793	that is true Bruce but i am wondering if i am going to like the longer legs that the higher rpms will allow... __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today

05-10-05, 03:09 PM	#9
Eric Winkworth IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,419	SO when I shift from 2nd to 3rd that really is the engine bogging a bit, seems like it is universal slop. Still gonna replace them, as there prolly orginal and feel kinda sloppy __________________ 1986 BJ70, 24v with a 3B

05-10-05, 04:11 PM	#10
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,793	curious as to why you think it is ujoint slop when it only happens between the 2 gears... cheers __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today

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