smurfeild

crushers · 04-25-05, 04:49 PM

a brand new surfeild was busted on the weekend.
Dan from 4wheel broke a smurfield on the same trail that he grenaded a birfield last year...
the poor boy just should stay as far away from Wayne's ridge as he can... i would say his truck is petrified of being rolled..
LOL!!
anyway, i was surprised that one broke that easily.
cheers

tlcruiserman · 04-25-05, 07:36 PM

perhaps he has too much angle in his steering, I think it is anything over 47degrees and you will break a birfield.

crushers · 04-25-05, 08:00 PM

the first time he broke the birfield he had too much throttle, this time it was just poor design as far as i am concerned...
cheers

Greg_B · 04-25-05, 08:44 PM

Have you given Travis a call at 778-222-8738 to provide him feedback?

gb

crushers · 04-25-05, 09:35 PM

nope, never knew who made the unit...
i will let Dan deal with it...
it seems that every other year someone comes up with the next great cure for birfield breakage just to have the same thing happen...
i was really hoping this time would be different, maybe he just got a bad unit, crap can happen...
cheers

Greg_B · 04-25-05, 09:41 PM

This is the bling...http://www.toyotasuperaxles.com/

But for $65.00 cdn for a smurf...

gb

wesintl · 04-25-05, 10:29 PM

Yeah.. I hear longs are the way to go.. Once I add a locker to the front and run low on stock birfs

Greg_B · 04-25-05, 11:50 PM

Actually I was wrong. It's sometihng like $40.00 for a Smurf, with exchange.

Don't think there is much that will compare to a Long 27 or 30 spline chromo set...

Let's see...some of the new aftermarket hub studs, addtional dowels, aftermarket knuckle studs for the top, and some Long Chromo outers, and either Long or Pig inners.

gb

crushers · 04-25-05, 11:50 PM

curious, with the smaller ball and the more material, does this reduce the turning radius of the longfeild?
cheers

The Dude · 04-26-05, 11:36 AM

I am running smurfields on my HJ61. I have also broken a set. They where aftermarket birfields and not the OEM. I think you have to distinguish between a NEW birf that was smurf'd vs a used OEM or aftermarket.

My "in very good shape" OEM birfs that where smurf'd are holding up 100 times better then the aftermarket units that I broke.

I think for most running a 35 or under, the smurf is a very good and economical option.

woody · 04-26-05, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg_B

Let's see...some of the new aftermarket hub studs, aftermarket knuckle studs for the top, some Long Chromo outers, and Pig inners....and cryo'd knuckles

hey, that sounds like a rockin setup...I believe I'll do that...

Greg_B · 04-27-05, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woody

re: and cryo'd knuckles...

Interesting. Was this discussed on Mud or Pirates?

gb

beanz2 · 04-27-05, 01:19 PM

Pirates, mainly in the General Tech or Toy truck section. Bobby Long and CJ7Dean can do cryo's.

Dave

woody · 04-29-05, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg_B

Interesting. Was this discussed on Mud or Pirates?

gb

http://forum.ih8mud.com/hardcore-corner/38172-cryo-treatment-knuckles.html

Installing them tomorrow, visibly they look like any other knuckle....Dean and I both agreed that "it can't hurt"....$40 per knuckle to cryo, plus shipping round trip.

I also did the ARP studs from Front Range...IMO, it takes the stock knuckle about as far as ya can....next step will be Marlin's new 6-stud knuckle castings...

got a couple free cryo'd razors in the box too, C's legs have never been so smoooooooth

dieselcruiserhead · 05-01-05, 11:52 PM

I have beat the snot out of my smurfs and they have held up fine. Going to do it some more this week in Moab. If you breaks I'll post up. Finallly locked up front as of a couple days ago...! Andre

04-25-05, 04:49 PM	#1
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,793	smurfeild a brand new surfeild was busted on the weekend. Dan from 4wheel broke a smurfield on the same trail that he grenaded a birfield last year... the poor boy just should stay as far away from Wayne's ridge as he can... i would say his truck is petrified of being rolled.. LOL!! anyway, i was surprised that one broke that easily. cheers __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today

04-25-05, 07:36 PM	#2
tlcruiserman IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: San Diego, CA USA TLCA# 7932 Posts: 1,078	perhaps he has too much angle in his steering, I think it is anything over 47degrees and you will break a birfield. __________________ Michael tlcruiserman@westcoastcruisers.com West Coast Cruisers Incorporated

04-25-05, 08:00 PM	#3
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,793	the first time he broke the birfield he had too much throttle, this time it was just poor design as far as i am concerned... cheers __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today

04-25-05, 08:44 PM	#4
Greg_B IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2002 TLCA# 7091 Posts: 3,075	Have you given Travis a call at 778-222-8738 to provide him feedback? gb __________________ WANT A TOYOTA DIESEL ENGINE? Join the Import Vehicle Owners Association of Canada: Fight for what is right Canadian Vehicle Importers and Suppliers: Join the CAVI TLCA#7091

04-25-05, 09:35 PM	#5
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,793	nope, never knew who made the unit... i will let Dan deal with it... it seems that every other year someone comes up with the next great cure for birfield breakage just to have the same thing happen... i was really hoping this time would be different, maybe he just got a bad unit, crap can happen... cheers __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today

04-25-05, 09:41 PM	#6
Greg_B IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2002 TLCA# 7091 Posts: 3,075	This is the bling...http://www.toyotasuperaxles.com/ But for $65.00 cdn for a smurf... gb __________________ WANT A TOYOTA DIESEL ENGINE? Join the Import Vehicle Owners Association of Canada: Fight for what is right Canadian Vehicle Importers and Suppliers: Join the CAVI TLCA#7091

04-25-05, 10:29 PM	#7
wesintl IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver TLCA# 4180 Posts: 3,586	Yeah.. I hear longs are the way to go.. Once I add a locker to the front and run low on stock birfs __________________ 1964 FJ40 \| 1966 M416 \| 1976 FJ40 \| 1985 BJ70 Volvo Power\| 1997 FZJ80 \| TDI commuter car Rising Sun; Former CLCC You should be able to delete your own thread. Communists abound Real Change is here --> Cato Institute

04-25-05, 11:50 PM	#8
Greg_B IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2002 TLCA# 7091 Posts: 3,075	Actually I was wrong. It's sometihng like $40.00 for a Smurf, with exchange. Don't think there is much that will compare to a Long 27 or 30 spline chromo set... Let's see...some of the new aftermarket hub studs, addtional dowels, aftermarket knuckle studs for the top, and some Long Chromo outers, and either Long or Pig inners. gb __________________ WANT A TOYOTA DIESEL ENGINE? Join the Import Vehicle Owners Association of Canada: Fight for what is right Canadian Vehicle Importers and Suppliers: Join the CAVI TLCA#7091

04-26-05, 11:36 AM	#10
The Dude IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Saskatoon, SK TLCA# 8113 Posts: 911	I am running smurfields on my HJ61. I have also broken a set. They where aftermarket birfields and not the OEM. I think you have to distinguish between a NEW birf that was smurf'd vs a used OEM or aftermarket. My "in very good shape" OEM birfs that where smurf'd are holding up 100 times better then the aftermarket units that I broke. I think for most running a 35 or under, the smurf is a very good and economical option. __________________ Brad T 88 HJ61 "Marmaduke " 12H-T, A440, extreme valve body, PI, cable lockers, PTO winch, SOA, 2" body lift, FF, ARP studs, Longfields, 5.29s, 38x14.5R16 Toyo MTs... 78 BJ 40/42/60

04-27-05, 01:19 PM	#13
beanz2 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,126	Pirates, mainly in the General Tech or Toy truck section. Bobby Long and CJ7Dean can do cryo's. Dave

05-01-05, 11:52 PM	#15
dieselcruiserhead IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Park City & Heber City, Utah TLCA# 9439 Posts: 2,266	I have beat the snot out of my smurfs and they have held up fine. Going to do it some more this week in Moab. If you breaks I'll post up. Finallly locked up front as of a couple days ago...! Andre __________________ - Cummins 4BTswaps.com Forums - Diesel Conversion Website TLCA# 9439 Since 1999, Wasatch Cruisers '89 Toyota Pickup V6, OME, 32's '69 FJ55 Project on locked FZJ80 Frame, Cummins 4BT, NV5600, Dana 300

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