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11-05-09, 10:00 AM
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alternator blues
i've gone through two in the last 6 months, yes they were relly old and second hand.
My question is, what else could be the problem? I'm running manual brakes cause my master boost is fkd. do i even need that vacuum pump alternator which are hard to source or can i go with a more readily available chevy alternator?
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11-05-09, 11:02 AM
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i just bought an electric vaccum pump the other day from Lordco so i can go with a higher output alt that is easier to get a hold of
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11-05-09, 11:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cruisedeisel
My question is, what else could be the problem? I'm running manual brakes cause my master boost is fkd. do i even need that vacuum pump alternator which are hard to source or can i go with a more readily available chevy alternator?
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There's a higher output Hitachi alternator mentioned in a few forum posts here that should be a drop-in replacement with the vacuum pump.
Does your truck have anything else that might be vacuum activated? Vacuum Switching Vavles? Vacuum shifted 5 speed? If not you can get rid of the pump.
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11-05-09, 04:15 PM
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Driving a cruiser "without assisted braking" that left the factory "with assisted braking" is generally unsafe in my view and that vehicle should normally be classed as "unfit for public roads".
And I don't know what model vehicle we're talking about here but I'd be very surprised if a "drop-in" aftermarket replacement alternator existed for it (whatever it is). Edit - By this I mean - "modifications are usually necessary to mounts and/or wiring if not pulleys too".
Probably not what people want to hear - but my views anyway.
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11-05-09, 04:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lostmarbles
Driving a cruiser "without assisted braking" that left the factory "with assisted braking" is generally unsafe in my view and that vehicle should normally be classed as "unfit for public roads".
And I don't know what model vehicle we're talking about here but I'd be very surprised if a "drop-in" aftermarket replacement alternator existed for it (whatever it is). Edit - By this I mean - "modifications are usually necessary to mounts and/or wiring if not pulleys too".
Probably not what people want to hear - but my views anyway.

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Tom,OEX in australia make an alternator for 3B and 2H with a vac pump and universal adapter kit.
I think they are around $350 last time I asked.
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11-05-09, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roscoFJ73
Tom,OEX in australia make an alternator for 3B and 2H with a vac pump and universal adapter kit.
I think they are around $350 last time I asked.
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Thanks Rosco
I've looked at OEX's website before and seen images of stuff. But I got the impression a lot of it was "imaginary".
Last time I looked it raised more questions (in me) than gave answers.
That company seems to be set-up purely for over-the-counter-sales through Repco outlets.
I'd love anyone who has bought such thing off OEX/Repco to post images to prove the existence of such items for our old (pre-1990) cruisers.
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11-05-09, 05:41 PM
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here's a thread and here's a link to specs on the Hitachi alternators. They are used on Hino trucks.
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11-05-09, 06:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cruisedeisel
i've gone through two in the last 6 months, yes they were relly old and second hand.
My question is, what else could be the problem? I'm running manual brakes cause my master boost is fkd. do i even need that vacuum pump alternator which are hard to source or can i go with a more readily available chevy alternator?
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Just get it rebuilt, it's easily done. Old alternators are just that...
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11-07-09, 09:30 AM
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haha
Safety? hahaha the brakes are the last thing i gotta worry about. Havn't you seen the "rutiest rig" forum. Welded steering knuckles, welded tie rod, welded draglink. And also a lack of weld everywhere else. welded engine mounts that were supposed to drop my engine on the highway long time ago.
And get out of your safety geek box and lets run over shit. I can lock up all my tires with the might of my little right toe. Never been in an accident, you?
But thanks to all of the positive shit, I think i'll bring my alt to a shop and get it rebuilt. cheers! or go with chev aternator
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11-07-09, 11:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbo45
i just bought an electric vaccum pump the other day from Lordco so i can go with a higher output alt that is easier to get a hold of
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Was it 24V? If so, can you tell me what it cost and give me a part number? I'm interested to have one on hand just incase my vacuum pump blows one day. Alternators are not too expensive to rebuild but the vacuum pump is $$$.
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11-07-09, 11:17 AM
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I just bought a 3b and it came with the most amazing thing. It has a new GM alternator cluged together to the stock vacuum pump with a custom fabricated mount. It is 24 Volts.
Looks weird, but it will cost me about 30 bucks to rebuild with classic GM parts.
I will in the next few weeks take many pictures of it for the MUD forums, as this seems like a winner of a design to get past paying hundreds for a Toyota alternator.
Best.
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11-07-09, 10:41 PM
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Cruisediesel, since you're not too far from the lower mainland, there's a guy in Abbotsford who can rebuild 3B alternators, he had a line on very afffordable parts to do the alt and vacuum pump (splines and all!!!!). I haven't talked to him in a year or so but PM me and I'll send you his info.
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11-08-09, 10:36 AM
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got a guy up here that rebuilds them for 200 bucks, no tax, straight up. real cool dude. actually he was gonna give me a freash rebuild no core for 200. sounds good to me??? whatt do you guys think?
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11-08-09, 03:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lostmarbles
Thanks Rosco
I've looked at OEX's website before and seen images of stuff. But I got the impression a lot of it was "imaginary".
Last time I looked it raised more questions (in me) than gave answers.
That company seems to be set-up purely for over-the-counter-sales through Repco outlets.
I'd love anyone who has bought such thing off OEX/Repco to post images to prove the existence of such items for our old (pre-1990) cruisers.

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Repco bought a company called Ashdown Ingrams in 2008 and they are the ones that sell them. I have spoken to their sales staff on someones elses behalf and they said they can get them any time.
There is also a companay called AED (australian electrical distributors) where I got my alternator for my 1HZ swap into my 73.
I use to be able to access their site and look at any alternator or starter for almost any car sold here but they have sinced bocked it
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FJ73+1HZ Diesel NEW GEARBOX
1HZ =same power as 3F with 30% better fuel economy
2in Dobinsons lift.Powerdown adj shocks
33 in BFG A/T
HJ61 with slidin windas  regrettfully SOLD:(
Holden Commodore V6
Honda XR650L
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11-08-09, 05:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roscoFJ73
Repco bought a company called Ashdown Ingrams in 2008 and they are the ones that sell them. I have spoken to their sales staff on someones elses behalf and they said they can get them any time.
There is also a companay called AED (australian electrical distributors) where I got my alternator for my 1HZ swap into my 73.
I use to be able to access their site and look at any alternator or starter for almost any car sold here but they have sinced bocked it
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Thanks for explaining the connections Rosco.
In all my searches of these companies I've never found any of them to have an Internet Site worthy of its existence on the web.
Which is why I questioned whether any of them really do stock products that we know are likely to be in demand worldwide (such as remanufactued BJ42 starters/alternators).
If they have them, they certainly make no effort to make them available for purchase outside of "over-the-counter-Repco-sales within Australia". And I'm puzzled as to why a genuine business would shun such businesses opportunities.
PS. I guess I'm just jealous that I have no access to their products and am unlikely to ever get access to them. (Repco NZ are operated independently of Repco Australia so I can't just go to my local parts counter.)
And getting an "OEX part" from elsewhere (other than REPCO) doesn't seem feasible.
And REPCO stores in Australia (if "Repco Thomastown's behaviour" is anything to go by) will not send product overseas.
PPS. Not that I'm personally "in the hunt" for such stuff at present - But it is annoying to be denied access to something I just MAY want......... he he he
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11-08-09, 06:30 PM
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Ingrams ae really set up to del with account holders and you have to be one to get access to their site.
I rang the local branch here and they have a direct replacement(no adapter bracket required) for a 3B ,part# HXA003
I hate Repco as well,they tried to sell me a ram for my engine hoist for as much as the hoist cost because they didnt feel like ordering a spare part for something they sold.
Repco is part of a huge conglomerate of automotive parts companies,ACL bearings are also in that group. They started acquiring companies in Melbourne the 1930s
I deal direct with Ingrams through their contact list but no idea if they do mail order
- Branch Locations - Western Australia
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HZJ75 cab chassis 95 model ,stocker
FJ73+1HZ Diesel NEW GEARBOX
1HZ =same power as 3F with 30% better fuel economy
2in Dobinsons lift.Powerdown adj shocks
33 in BFG A/T
HJ61 with slidin windas  regrettfully SOLD:(
Holden Commodore V6
Honda XR650L
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