Replacing the Diaphragm

eleblanc · 10-11-08, 12:15 PM

Have you done it in place without moving anything? well except the EDIC arm? if you are part of that Elite, BE PROUD. lol took me 2 hours, 6-7 retry to get the 8mm nut back on, but oh boy i did it.

Tinny hole....

lostmarbles · 10-11-08, 02:24 PM

Well done Eric.

I'm pleased to hear that you didn't try to gain entry to our elite group by leaving that nut off (like S-O-M-E people)

ohrly? · 10-11-08, 03:22 PM

2 hours is not fast enough, 30 minutes on and off to be elite

eleblanc · 10-11-08, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ohrly?

2 hours is not fast enough, 30 minutes on and off to be elite

Ok so i'm a rookie, maybe the third time, i'll hit 30 minutes mark

We should have our own Broken Diaphragm bar

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Seriously i'd rather change Birf in the middle of a swamp then doing this....

ohrly? · 10-11-08, 04:27 PM

once i fix my birf in the middle of a swamp ill give you my two cents

we drive biomechanical machines haha

Roberto · 10-12-08, 07:15 PM

Good job Eric, took me about the same because somehow I had it upside down or inside out. I used a medical locking forecep instrument so I would not drop that pin/ key inside. what a diff after wards though.

R

eleblanc · 10-12-08, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Roberto

Good job Eric, took me about the same because somehow I had it upside down or inside out. I used a medical locking forecep instrument so I would not drop that pin/ key inside. what a diff after wards though.

R

But you didn't have the body in your way?

lostmarbles · 10-12-08, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Roberto

Good job Eric, took me about the same because somehow I had it upside down or inside out. I used a medical locking forecep instrument so I would not drop that pin/ key inside. what a diff after wards though.

R

At least I'm not the only one with medical forceps in my toolkit

(Some of mine have a really useful "long reach" too.)

I'd hate to think where they've been.

I bought about 6 pairs some years back at a second hand shop that used to be situated not far from the hospital here. (Probably pawned by a hospital orderly who was short of money at the time?)

eleblanc · 10-12-08, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lostmarbles

At least I'm not the only one with medical forceps in my toolkit

(Some of mine have a really useful "long reach" too.)

I'd hate to think where they've been.

I bought about 6 pairs some years back at a second hand shop that used to be situated not far from the hospital here. (Probably pawned by a hospital orderly who was short of money at the time?)

Did it all with my fingers! i mean get the diaphragm back there and screwed the nut! I did cheat a bit by greasing up my fingers ;-) so the small lock washer and nut would stick.

brisveganbj42 · 10-13-08, 05:54 AM

assuming yer high idle issue is now resolved?

eleblanc · 10-13-08, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by brisveganbj42

assuming yer high idle issue is now resolved?

Yes, the truck was running 1000 rpm instead of the usuall 700, and it did fix the problem. At first i couldn't find a hole in the old diaphragm, but after stretching it, i did find the one you see in the first post.

brisveganbj42 · 10-13-08, 10:28 AM

good to hear!

i'm thinking of replacing the diaphragm on a 3b i'm going to swap in on the weeknd as a bit of preventative maintenance while the engine is out and easily eccessible.. reckon its worth while or wait until it goes?

ohrly? · 10-13-08, 04:25 PM

yeah when i tried to find the hole in my diaphram it disintegrated...

Try putting the diaphram in upside down

then start it up cold and watch your yard immediately get filled entirely with smoke.... its quite amazing actually

eleblanc · 10-13-08, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by brisveganbj42

good to hear!

i'm thinking of replacing the diaphragm on a 3b i'm going to swap in on the weeknd as a bit of preventative maintenance while the engine is out and easily eccessible.. reckon its worth while or wait until it goes?

For the price of the diaphragm (cheap), gor for it right now while it is out.

brisveganbj42 · 10-14-08, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by eleblanc

For the price of the diaphragm (cheap), gor for it right now while it is out.

the part is on order..

check out the state of the rear of the injector pump.. could that indicate the PO's already beat me to it?

eleblanc · 10-14-08, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by brisveganbj42

the part is on order..

check out the state of the rear of the injector pump.. could that indicate the PO's already beat me to it?

Maybe, or maybe he went in there for a other reason. Open it up while you wait for the new part. But from the picture the whole pump cover is clean not just the diaphragm cover. So that might indicate he went in there for bigger problem.

golfinw71 · 10-15-08, 03:43 AM

Been there done that, I'm sure many others have said this but it's about as fun lying in a tub of scissors. I never took the bolt off, just the pin, seemed a little easier that way. She now runs great and gets better MPG

freebie · 10-15-08, 11:56 PM

brisveganbj42, I hope you didn't order from Toyota?? in Canada the part is $126 at the local diesel shop $26.
Just wanted to remind everybody who is planning on changing their injector diaphram!

Cheers

KOOTENAY KRUZER · 10-16-08, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by freebie

brisveganbj42, I hope you didn't order from Toyota?? in Canada the part is $126 at the local diesel shop $26.
Just wanted to remind everybody who is planning on changing their injector diaphram!

Cheers

Inflation, eh? I replaced mine in January '07, got it from Nelson Toyota, paid about $25, certainly not $126. Where is the dealer you first went to for this?

eleblanc · 10-16-08, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KOOTENAY KRUZER

Inflation, eh? I replaced mine in January '07, got it from Nelson Toyota, paid about $25, certainly not $126. Where is the dealer you first went to for this?

that was list price, he would have sold it to me at 100$. I wasn't suprise from the dealer. Maybe you got lucky and your dealer had a crossover part number and could get it else where. But i saw the list price in the dealer system and it is over 100$

I got it for 35$ at a diesel shop.

lostmarbles · 10-16-08, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eleblanc

that was list price, he would have sold it to me at 100$. I wasn't suprise from the dealer. Maybe you got lucky and your dealer had a crossover part number and could get it else where. But i saw the list price in the dealer system and it is over 100$ ...I got it for 35$ at a diesel shop.

I'm sure I would have the same bad experience as you if I went to my Toyota dealer here in NZ Eric.

But they are often even worse than that. Just over a week ago I went to them to get a gasket for my alloy valve cover. - Well they didn't even have the part number listed. (They seem to restrict their computer to NZ-stocklistings rather than worldwide stocklistings.)
So as soon as they mentioned they'd have to get it from Japan, I went a few doors down to Repco (a chainstore that is perhaps like "NAPA" in the States) and got one there.

brisveganbj42 · 10-16-08, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebie

brisveganbj42, I hope you didn't order from Toyota?? in Canada the part is $126 at the local diesel shop $26.
Just wanted to remind everybody who is planning on changing their injector diaphram!

Cheers

Yep I got a genuine replacement although I think I paid about $40AUD for it.
the aftermarket one I purchase prior was about $35 i think.

10-11-08, 12:15 PM	#1
eleblanc BJ addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Montreal TLCA# 16338 Posts: 1,398	Replacing the Diaphragm Have you done it in place without moving anything? well except the EDIC arm? if you are part of that Elite, BE PROUD. lol took me 2 hours, 6-7 retry to get the 8mm nut back on, but oh boy i did it. Tinny hole.... Attached Images __________________ 1983 BJ42LV 3B turbo diesel, 5 speed, power steering 24V Viair 450C, ARB locker front/rear, OME Heavy 4.56 R&P, BF Mud 255/85 (34") Warn M12000 24Volt http://www.ericleblanc.com/gallery/m...p?g2_itemId=20

10-11-08, 02:24 PM	#2
lostmarbles IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Zealand (The other side of the world to most of ya!!!) Posts: 1,972	Well done Eric. I'm pleased to hear that you didn't try to gain entry to our elite group by leaving that nut off (like S-O-M-E people) __________________ Name's really Tom & I have a 1979 BJ40 that is RHD and mainly "original" with Toyota PTO winch, 16" split rims, drums all round, B engine, H41 transmission and 12V electrics that I've owned since 1981 A hood is really a bonnet. A fender is really a guard. A windshield is really a windscreen. A zerk is really a nipple. A trunk is really a boot...........

10-11-08, 03:22 PM	#3
ohrly? IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 307	2 hours is not fast enough, 30 minutes on and off to be elite __________________ -24 volt 1980 BJ40. -Five 24 Volt Hobbs heavy duty equipment lights. -32x11.5 GWrench AT's.

10-11-08, 04:27 PM	#5
ohrly? IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 307	once i fix my birf in the middle of a swamp ill give you my two cents we drive biomechanical machines haha __________________ -24 volt 1980 BJ40. -Five 24 Volt Hobbs heavy duty equipment lights. -32x11.5 GWrench AT's.

10-12-08, 07:15 PM	#6
Roberto IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lumberton, NC Posts: 1,126	Good job Eric, took me about the same because somehow I had it upside down or inside out. I used a medical locking forecep instrument so I would not drop that pin/ key inside. what a diff after wards though. R __________________ 1983 BJ42 LX CDN M101 "De Oppresso Liber"

10-13-08, 05:54 AM	#10
brisveganbj42 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: brisneyland.qld.au Posts: 330	assuming yer high idle issue is now resolved? __________________ '84 BJ42 with all the fruit - fun to drive 7 days a week! 1GB Free Image hosting @ PHAT42.COM! Join the crew @ phat42! my 'shed' 3rdrock4x4 club

10-13-08, 10:28 AM	#12
brisveganbj42 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: brisneyland.qld.au Posts: 330	good to hear! i'm thinking of replacing the diaphragm on a 3b i'm going to swap in on the weeknd as a bit of preventative maintenance while the engine is out and easily eccessible.. reckon its worth while or wait until it goes? __________________ '84 BJ42 with all the fruit - fun to drive 7 days a week! 1GB Free Image hosting @ PHAT42.COM! Join the crew @ phat42! my 'shed' 3rdrock4x4 club

10-13-08, 04:25 PM	#13
ohrly? IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 307	yeah when i tried to find the hole in my diaphram it disintegrated... Try putting the diaphram in upside down then start it up cold and watch your yard immediately get filled entirely with smoke.... its quite amazing actually __________________ -24 volt 1980 BJ40. -Five 24 Volt Hobbs heavy duty equipment lights. -32x11.5 GWrench AT's.

10-15-08, 03:43 AM	#17
golfinw71 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 7	Been there done that, I'm sure many others have said this but it's about as fun lying in a tub of scissors. I never took the bolt off, just the pin, seemed a little easier that way. She now runs great and gets better MPG __________________ 1978 BJ40 RHD (AUS) 1984 F60 (US)

10-15-08, 11:56 PM	#18
freebie IH8WORK Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 171	brisveganbj42, I hope you didn't order from Toyota?? in Canada the part is $126 at the local diesel shop $26. Just wanted to remind everybody who is planning on changing their injector diaphram! Cheers

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