4x4labs OM617 update

ChuckB · 08-26-08, 09:11 PM

Just received an email, if you are interested see the new site

OM617 conversion

ThePookieBear · 08-27-08, 02:25 PM

So is this the venerable 5 cylinder Mercedes Diesel that is nearly legendary? And it looks like it can be mated to the A440F. That would open up the conversion to FJ80 correct? This is a really cool development. I like it!

brownbear · 08-27-08, 04:22 PM

I think the Mercedes engine would be great in a 40 and max in a 60. An 80 is IMOP to heavy for this engine.
Better to go with a 6 cylinder 4litre sized engine.

I got that email too....trying to remember when I registered ?? I want to see them do a write up on here and make some solid prices. I will buy a kit from them in the future to use my Mercedes engine in a 40 or a Toyota pickup. But I'm thinking I want a diesel 2wd one with a GM 5 sp.

mac · 08-29-08, 02:59 AM

Fantastic! That is a great little diesel.

ThePookieBear · 08-29-08, 09:13 AM

Dang. Got to find a diesel for the eighty thats cheaper than a 1HZ or 1HD-T half cut, not american (or at least gm), and can be fitted without too much trouble to my A440. : ). Not many options.

brownbear · 08-29-08, 12:29 PM

Just save for the 1hz for the 80. But you still need a transmission. The stock trans isn't going to work with the diesel. In the EPC they are different part numbers. Lots of parts different. And if you can get all the different parts lined up that's needed, you might as well have bought the trans. Plus someone buying your 3fe for the their 40 might want the auto for offroading.

ThePookieBear · 08-31-08, 12:37 AM

True. I talked to Rodney from Wholesale Auto's in Australia. He said that it wouldn't be too hard to swap the A440 in behind the 1HZ. Different spline counts and stuff, but it would work. And he has a valve body and torque converter for the A440 that would be good behind the 1HZ. All money though. I would rather have the 1HZ.

rtarh2o · 08-31-08, 11:01 PM

Didn't Mercedes use the OM617 in the G-Wagen? It has to be about as heavy as the 80. I have heard they are slow but people seem to love the diesel G-Wagens so I wouldn't totally rule it out for the 80, just depends upon what you are looking for.
Rusty

denis · 09-01-08, 12:04 PM

I'd rather put a 3B in an 80. Do yourself a favor and don't think about it anymore.
That said I wouldn't mind a W123 wagon with that engine

nickwood48 · 09-02-08, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtarh2o

Didn't Mercedes use the OM617 in the G-Wagen? It has to be about as heavy as the 80. I have heard they are slow but people seem to love the diesel G-Wagens so I wouldn't totally rule it out for the 80, just depends upon what you are looking for.
Rusty

That is true, but alot of them also got the NON turbo variant with its heart stopping 125 lf/ft of torque. I heard they are painfully slow, but do fine offroad.

They also put the 0M616 (240d) 4-cyl NON turbo in the wagens, I can't even fathom that.

rtarh2o · 09-02-08, 09:03 PM

I have heard the G-wagens are slow, some won't even hit 70 mph, not real useful in the states.
Rusty

FL cruiser · 09-02-08, 10:07 PM

My dad has a 2001 GD290 turbo diesel. It's a 4 door 2.9 automatic. Not totally sure if it's the OM617, but I'm guessing it is. It's a dog of the line, but will take off once it eventually hits 3,000 RPM. It will cruise effortlessly down the highway at 140KPH (85MPH) at half throttle.
This must be an exception being a newer vehicle. My friends mom has a 79 300TD.
Lighter vehicle, but pedal has to be mashed to the floor to maintain 75 MPH.

ThePookieBear · 09-02-08, 10:31 PM

Ah suckage. I heard that a couple guys have put one in a sixty. That would be cool.

08-26-08, 09:11 PM	#1
ChuckB Currently Cruiser-less... Join Date: May 2003 Location: Honolulu, HI TLCA# 14425 Posts: 583	4x4labs OM617 update Just received an email, if you are interested see the new site OM617 conversion __________________ '72 (Sold) '00 LX-UZJ100 (Sold) '86 FJ60 (Sold)

08-27-08, 02:25 PM	#2
ThePookieBear IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wichita, KS. Posts: 348	So is this the venerable 5 cylinder Mercedes Diesel that is nearly legendary? And it looks like it can be mated to the A440F. That would open up the conversion to FJ80 correct? This is a really cool development. I like it! __________________ 1992 FJ80, stock except brush guard , and BF Goodrich AT 33's. Hopefully soon to come; ARB, OME 2.5 inch lift, etc.

08-27-08, 04:22 PM	#3
brownbear Mod in Hibernation Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where diesels purr and turbos whine TLCA# 15584 Posts: 6,183	I think the Mercedes engine would be great in a 40 and max in a 60. An 80 is IMOP to heavy for this engine. Better to go with a 6 cylinder 4litre sized engine. I got that email too....trying to remember when I registered ?? I want to see them do a write up on here and make some solid prices. I will buy a kit from them in the future to use my Mercedes engine in a 40 or a Toyota pickup. But I'm thinking I want a diesel 2wd one with a GM 5 sp. __________________ -84 BJ60, Finally on the FN road! -91 FJ80, wife's ride Iron Butt award winner of the Cruise Moab 08 !

08-29-08, 02:59 AM	#4
mac rust and moth consumables Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wet Coast Posts: 844	Fantastic! That is a great little diesel. __________________ -Peter Mac- 1990 HDJ81 1997 40th 1967 Norton Atlas 1986 Yamaha RZ350 1996 Ducati 900SS SP Ya...it's like crack to me... www.bestinshowexhibits.com

08-29-08, 09:13 AM	#5
ThePookieBear IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wichita, KS. Posts: 348	Dang. Got to find a diesel for the eighty thats cheaper than a 1HZ or 1HD-T half cut, not american (or at least gm), and can be fitted without too much trouble to my A440. : ). Not many options. __________________ 1992 FJ80, stock except brush guard , and BF Goodrich AT 33's. Hopefully soon to come; ARB, OME 2.5 inch lift, etc.

08-29-08, 12:29 PM	#6
brownbear Mod in Hibernation Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where diesels purr and turbos whine TLCA# 15584 Posts: 6,183	Just save for the 1hz for the 80. But you still need a transmission. The stock trans isn't going to work with the diesel. In the EPC they are different part numbers. Lots of parts different. And if you can get all the different parts lined up that's needed, you might as well have bought the trans. Plus someone buying your 3fe for the their 40 might want the auto for offroading. __________________ -84 BJ60, Finally on the FN road! -91 FJ80, wife's ride Iron Butt award winner of the Cruise Moab 08 !

08-31-08, 12:37 AM	#7
ThePookieBear IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wichita, KS. Posts: 348	True. I talked to Rodney from Wholesale Auto's in Australia. He said that it wouldn't be too hard to swap the A440 in behind the 1HZ. Different spline counts and stuff, but it would work. And he has a valve body and torque converter for the A440 that would be good behind the 1HZ. All money though. I would rather have the 1HZ. __________________ 1992 FJ80, stock except brush guard , and BF Goodrich AT 33's. Hopefully soon to come; ARB, OME 2.5 inch lift, etc.

08-31-08, 11:01 PM	#8
rtarh2o IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NE Texas Posts: 614	Didn't Mercedes use the OM617 in the G-Wagen? It has to be about as heavy as the 80. I have heard they are slow but people seem to love the diesel G-Wagens so I wouldn't totally rule it out for the 80, just depends upon what you are looking for. Rusty __________________ 94 FZJ80 6.2 diesel 78 FJ40 Restoration beginning

09-01-08, 12:04 PM	#9
denis retired maths geek huh Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: buried in a pile of yota projects TLCA# ?! Posts: 1,038	I'd rather put a 3B in an 80. Do yourself a favor and don't think about it anymore. That said I wouldn't mind a W123 wagon with that engine __________________ '71MS75 threw a rod '74MS75 seized engine '75BJ40 farm tractor type R '79FJ55 rostig schwein '80BJ40 never ending resto '88LN65 frame-off '90HDJ80 the bear '92LN85 turbo ute

09-02-08, 09:03 PM	#11
rtarh2o IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NE Texas Posts: 614	I have heard the G-wagens are slow, some won't even hit 70 mph, not real useful in the states. Rusty __________________ 94 FZJ80 6.2 diesel 78 FJ40 Restoration beginning

09-02-08, 10:07 PM	#12
FL cruiser IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: St Petersburg, Florida Posts: 656	My dad has a 2001 GD290 turbo diesel. It's a 4 door 2.9 automatic. Not totally sure if it's the OM617, but I'm guessing it is. It's a dog of the line, but will take off once it eventually hits 3,000 RPM. It will cruise effortlessly down the highway at 140KPH (85MPH) at half throttle. This must be an exception being a newer vehicle. My friends mom has a 79 300TD. Lighter vehicle, but pedal has to be mashed to the floor to maintain 75 MPH. __________________ 81 HJ60 Costa Rica Cruiser 82 FJ60 Trail Rig. Convertible, 2F, H55, Toybox, SUA, 37" MTR's 83 JJ60. Daily driver, OME, 33's, 6.2 diesel, NV4500, WVO http://mysite.verizon.net/sbutman1/LC.html

09-02-08, 10:31 PM	#13
ThePookieBear IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wichita, KS. Posts: 348	Ah suckage. I heard that a couple guys have put one in a sixty. That would be cool. __________________ 1992 FJ80, stock except brush guard , and BF Goodrich AT 33's. Hopefully soon to come; ARB, OME 2.5 inch lift, etc.

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