Landcruiser Stolen and they put gas in it.

[ric80]

My 1992 HDJ81 was stolen. It has been recovered but the thieves put gas in the 1hd-t diesel tank and i don't know how far they drove on the gas or if it was straight gas or gas /diesel mix. Also some front end damage but right now my major concern is the engine, injector pump and injectors. What should I do?

1. drain the tank , fill with diesel, and run the engine.
2. bring it in and have a shop drain and purge the whole fuel system.

Has anyone had this type of problem on a 1hd-t and what damage did it do.

[Joe Egolf]

Do you have insurance?? I'd contact them and let them pay fro the fix and a new engine if it's dammaged???

[lshobie]

I put 8 litres in of gas in my tank yesterday by accident, the pump had gas with a big yellow sticker - diesel is usually yellow. Anyway, I just topped it up with diesel and it is fine, not the first time either.

Drain the tank, and put diesel in it - it is fine.

[lostmarbles]

Originally Posted by ric80

My 1992 HDJ81 was stolen. It has been recovered but the thieves put gas in the 1hd-t diesel tank and i don't know how far they drove on the gas or if it was straight gas or gas /diesel mix. Also some front end damage but right now my major concern is the engine, injector pump and injectors. What should I do?

1. drain the tank , fill with diesel, and run the engine.
2. bring it in and have a shop drain and purge the whole fuel system.

Has anyone had this type of problem on a 1hd-t and what damage did it do.

Getting your cruiser stolen is every cruiserhead's nightmare. I sympathise.

I'd drain the tank and fuel filter. (Check the fuel from the filter first to get an idea of "how much like diesel" it is. - Hopefully you will be pleasantly surprised.)

Then just "purge air" from the filter and "flush most of the contaminated fuel from the injector pump" via the bleed nipples and primer pump.

(I wouldn't try doing any further "flushing" personally because I doubt you would gain anything from all the work involved.)

Then I'd just try starting it and go from there. (If it starts OK and runs - just let it idle before taking it for a drive.)

Lots of us (and I'm including myself here) have mistakenly filled out tanks with petrol at times.

IF there is damage/wear - then it has already been done and there's nothing you can do to change that. If you follow my advice above - I can't see that you would have contributed to it.

[roscoFJ73]

Im with the others. Get all you can out and fill er up with diesel. When you put gas in a diesel it stops pretty quick eliminating the risk of damage

[joshoisasleep]

hey look on the bright side, because it was a diesel you still have your rig! Considering they bothered to put fuel in it they probably were intending to take it farther... maybe to burn it. Also, it should be pretty easy to figure out which gas station they went to (the closest one!)... maybe if you can look at their security tapes you can at least find out what they look like.

[canucksafari]

Originally Posted by Joe Egolf

Do you have insurance?? I'd contact them and let them pay fro the fix and a new engine if it's dammaged???

X2 That is what insurance is for. If you mess around with it and then try to make a claim you will be SOL.

One of the local club members had his rig stolen and the thieves put gas in it also. It was a right off.

[ric80]

Because of your responses I feel a little more confident that no serious damage was done. I havn't done anything to it yet because i'm waiting to talk to the arresting constable to see if charges are being laid. I don't have comprehensive coverage so my only recourse is to try to get restitution from the courts. I'm lucky that there doesn't seem to be any mechanical or structural damage . Damage includes front bullbar (ugly crome anyway) front bumper, both front quarter panels buckled , definately needs a wheel alignment. At least it's back in my driveway.

[roscoFJ73]

My experience with claiming for engine damage went like this.
If you say the engine is damaged they will want it stripped down for proof. If they disagree it is damaged ,you pay.
Of course it is different if the engine is seized or has a hole in the block.

[canucksafari]

Get comprehensive insurance even if you don't have collision. Its worth it. Glad your engine seems okay. You will want gto flush you whole fuel system and get some hi lube B40 or better in there. Gas has zero lubrication and will cause wear on your injector pump.

[ric80]

Well I drained the gas, approx. 25 liters ,put in 20 liters of fresh diesel, a little shot of Stanadyne"s fuel additive and a dash of transmissiom fluid and started her up with a prayer. The injection pump was a little noisy for the first 5 min. or so but then it seemed to quiet down to about normal. Took her for an easy 10 km. run and all seems to be well so far. So now at least I can take it in to a body shop for a damage estimate. The constable on the case said that charges were being laid against the thieves so there is some chance for restitution. BTW the thieves were a group of 5 or 6 girls between 14 and 18 years old. UNBELIEVABLE !!!

[brownbear]

Changed the title of the thread as it was misleading. The thread indicated you needed help to find it.

I bet your engine is fine. But keep on the insurance. Have them make noted incase of early failures.

Take this as a lesson. You NEED an imbollizer installed. Kill switch etc. If they can't start it, it can't be stolen. My BJ60 can only be stolen with a Cruiser mechanic there and time. Or a tow truck.

Buy an alarm that hooks into the door locks, so that way you get remote door locks too. Try Autoloc. You can buy them in Vanocuver at KMS Carparts.

[joshoisasleep]

There's a lot of long and in-depth threads on imobilizing devices. Care to mention here what you did on yours brownbear? I think this thread is appropriate for a quick mention...

[optionseeker]

x2 BB. I was just thinking of a kill switch for my 92 hdj81. I was wondering about using the sport/regular suspension switch since it is now useless with my OME suspension.

J

[rtarh2o]

I am running a WVO blend with 10-15% gas in my diesel, many people claim to be running as much as 25% gas without any problems. Depending upon how much they put in I am guessing it is fine. Apparently some diesel owners manuals suggest adding up to a certain amount of gas during the winter to keep the diesel thinner.
Rusty

[prado t]

Hi I had mine stolen, They put gas in it till it would not run, I didnt want it anymore they fucked it. So it was written off a total af 18,000 dollars worth of damage too. Tell them at the insurance companys cost you want the vehicle to be gone over completely, it is your right, especially if you have collision and comprehensive

Winter grade diesel is thin enough, do not put gas in there, Cmon that is not good at all.

[canucksafari]

Originally Posted by ric80

The injection pump was a little noisy for the first 5 min. or so but then it seemed to quiet down to about normal. Took her for an easy 10 km. run and all seems to be well so far. So now at least I can take it in to a body shop for a damage estimate. The constable on the case said that charges were being laid against the thieves so there is some chance for restitution. BTW the thieves were a group of 5 or 6 girls between 14 and 18 years old. UNBELIEVABLE !!!

Standyne, according to the lube study is not that great. You're better off dumping in biodiesel - even 10% bio. I also have been using Standyne for ages. The noise in your IP is not good news.

If I was in your shoes and did not have comprehensive insurance, I would have it professionally inspected for damage, get a total estimate and then see a lawyer about going after the parents of the kids. Someone has to pay. Its better them than you.

[cody c]

Originally Posted by joshoisasleep

There's a lot of long and in-depth threads on imobilizing devices. Care to mention here what you did on yours brownbear? I think this thread is appropriate for a quick mention...

???? what did you put in your rig BB?

Since mine is more of a weekend wheeler i put the marine battery disconnects in it, this also keeps the batteries fresher, but i have to reset the stereo settings.

[roscoFJ73]

Originally Posted by joshoisasleep

There's a lot of long and in-depth threads on imobilizing devices. Care to mention here what you did on yours brownbear? I think this thread is appropriate for a quick mention...

Its not easy to make an older style diesel thief proof. The best and only way is multiple levels of security.
Some well hidden solenoid valves that shut the fuel down with maybe more than one switch,a steering lock and a motion sensor all take time for a thief to work out
Thieves hate being in one spot for too long and will move on(hopefully)

I park both of mine down the back behind a gate with an old volvo behind them on a steep driveway(with some other homemade surprises for thieves.

[joshoisasleep]

I actually have been considering the idea of removing my steering wheel and taking it with me like cyclists do with their bike seats. My only concern would be if I didn't properly reattach it one time...

[roscoFJ73]

Originally Posted by joshoisasleep

I actually have been considering the idea of removing my steering wheel and taking it with me like cyclists do with their bike seats. My only concern would be if I didn't properly reattach it one time...

Taking a steering wheel would be a PITA without a quick release and you would have to carry it around with you.
I was thinking of getting some wheel clamps. Sometimes a device can be as much of a visual deterrance as a real one.

[joshoisasleep]

It's only one nut for the wheel... all you need is velcro for the cover! Clamps would be good too... at least until you forgot about them...

[96Cruiser13]

box up the wasted gas and send it my way! haha

fuel is getting ridiculous! $$$

[brownbear]

Originally Posted by joshoisasleep

There's a lot of long and in-depth threads on imobilizing devices. Care to mention here what you did on yours brownbear? I think this thread is appropriate for a quick mention...

Yes see below

Originally Posted by optionseeker

x2 BB. I was just thinking of a kill switch for my 92 hdj81. I was wondering about using the sport/regular suspension switch since it is now useless with my OME suspension.

J

You could use that sw. Or get an alarm with it built in.

Originally Posted by cody c

???? what did you put in your rig BB?

For my 60 I decided I want power door locks, especially since I have 3 little ones to try and get in all the time. So I bought a Autoloc system, with an alarm in it. It basically puts a solenoid on each door lock rod and is wired all to a main control box. The alarm uses forced solenoids as a signal, as well door triggers and vibration. that sets the alarm off very loadly.

To go further if they just popped the hood and cut the siren off, they would then have no way to start it, as I have embedded the edic into the alarm. The power is controlled thru the box. Very effective. It will crank, but never start. No system is fool proof. But time is the essence and the longer it takes the chances are they will depart with out the truck.

For an 80 series you can put in the remote system from Autoloc and get it installed with a kill function too. Ignition kill or starter is your option. I also installed a door remote system on my 80. As the early FJ80's had power locks but no remotes.

Kill switches are a great idea. I will not explain what to do on here, so PM and if you are known to me I will help ya

[brownbear]

Originally Posted by joshoisasleep

It's only one nut for the wheel... all you need is velcro for the cover! Clamps would be good too... at least until you forgot about them...

Yah but you wouldn't do that on a short trip to the 7/11. AND that's where it gets stolen. You need an audible alarm that lets people know its armed when you set out. Something that goes blip blip. And on top of that an easy switch hidden that stops the starter is the best bet.

But thieves read these threads too. So basically the best advice it do something that is difficult to find, but easy to use on a regular basis. Deterrents need to be visible. Or audible. A thief who trys to jimmy a door and hears an alarm might just get the fauk outta there. Just because, why bother.

It's not practical to remove the steering wheel.

I would look at shifter lever locks, pedal locks and possible a club as the visual deterrents. And most definitely I would install an alarm. I only paid 180 bucks for a door lock and alarm system. And it took about week of part time work to install it.

Another good deterrent is a dog. People don't like to bother vehicles with a large menacing dog on the drivers seat.

[canucksafari]

Originally Posted by brownbear

Another good deterrent is a dog. People don't like to bother vehicles with a large menacing dog on the drivers seat.

X2, but only when it is not hot. Even a warm day with just the windows down an inch or two is too hot in the sun. On cooler days, my friendly Golden has on numerous occasions scared the hell out of people who got too close to her truck.