[Bikerso]

I saw $4.26 for diesel in central Oregon. I wouldn't bet on prices going down. There are rumors that oil companies and American automotive companies want diesel prices to continue to rise to discourage individuals from buying the new diesel vehicles that will be available at the end of this year once all of the US is on low sulfur diesel. American automotive companies can't produce a vehicle that can compete with the diesel cars in Europe and the oil companies don't want people driving cars that get over 40 mpg--and the government like the kickbacks they get from both sides. So as long as our government keep getting their pockets filled by the corporations expect diesel prices to only rise. And to think diesel is cheaper to make than regular unleaded gas!

[M John Galt]

Canuks are getting screwed at the pumps. The average US price for gasoline is $0.91/litre, average Cdn price is $1.185 a litre.

Gasoline prices surge to 3-year high

Too bad most govts don't have the balls to do something about it like Venezuela did.
Venezuela approves law taxing foreign oil companies' windfall profits


ABC News: Venezuela approves windfall oil tax

[bruff]

$5.04/ US Gallon here on Central Vancouver Island.
Just got back from a trip to Washington and paid 4.15 - 4.29/gallon.
Actually got a tank at 2.29/Gallon - sign said 4.29 and pump said 2.29. And I wasn't telling anybody as I the gas companys are gouging us and wanted as many people to get a deal as possible. Took my receipt and drove away before there was any squealing from the attendant.

[ohrly?]

i pay $1 canadian dollar per litre.

[canucksafari]

Originally Posted by ohrly?

i pay $1 canadian dollar per litre.

Okay Ohrly, I 'll bite, WHERE???

[gbcruiser]

Originally Posted by M John Galt

Canuks are getting screwed at the pumps. The average US price for gasoline is $0.91/litre, average Cdn price is $1.185 a litre.

This Canuck doesn't mind paying a little more at the pump:

1 - Smaller population, larger country, higher road maintenance costs

2 - NAFTA requires Canadian-sourced fuel to be sold to US consumers at the same pre-tax price as Canadians

3 - Different tax structures: fuel taxes in Canada go into general govt revenue and help pay for things like Medicare

[M John Galt]

Originally Posted by gbcruiser

This Canuck doesn't mind paying a little more at the pump:

You got that right. I'll gladly pay more to avoid living in Amerika.

[crosscreekjoe]

$4.37 medford, jacksonville hwy. parked the 2008 diesel that gets 11mpg to drive 86 astro van. bullshit.

[crosscreekjoe]

$4.37 medford oregon, jacksonville hwy. parked the 2008 diesel that gets 11mpg to drive 86 astro van. bullshit.

[andrea-PE-ITALY]

in Italy 1,37 euros/litre. We are in the shit.......

[cruiser_guy]

Originally Posted by crosscreekjoe

$4.37 medford oregon, jacksonville hwy. parked the 2008 diesel that gets 11mpg to drive 86 astro van. bullshit.

The stretch of I-5 from Redding, CA north to about Springfeild/Eugene. OR tends to be a little more than other areas anyways.

[Bahndo111]

I saw $4.59 in McLean, VA today, sheesh, if they weren't more efficient and better for the environment I would be rethinking my stand in the oil burners.

[Ron R]

Originally Posted by andrea-PE-ITALY

in Italy 1,37 euros/litre. We are in the ****.......

The same over here, new all-time high is now 1,38 euros/litre.
That equals 8.30 USD/gallon.
And it's not just because diesel is hard to get. It's because certain kind of people make money by DECLARING crude oil to be scarce but it's still abundant.

[gbcruiser]

Originally Posted by Bahndo111

I saw $4.59 in McLean, VA today, sheesh, if they weren't more efficient and better for the environment I would be rethinking my stand in the oil burners.

That's exactly what 'they' want you to do. No conspiracy theory, just the facts: there is not one US company that has been able to build an efficient, powerful small displacement diesel. Therefore, diesel prices will rise to discourage consumers from buying European, and soon Japanese, diesel powered vehicles and instead buy Made-In-China American cars.

Originally Posted by Ron R

It's because certain kind of people make money by DECLARING crude oil to be scarce but it's still abundant.

Precisely. There is enough oil still waiting to be tapped to give oil execs sleepless nights. Russia hasn't even turned on the taps yet; Iraq is still essentially off-line. The fact is we will move away from petroleum energy long before we run out. Don't believe the hype.

[gettocruiser]

i filled up an hour ago in edmonton and it was $1.229 a litre...
anyone else on here from edmonton? and wanting to start a biodiesel co-op?
but i feel that the real problem isn't the price of fuel...

[M John Galt]

Gold and oil traditionally have had a 15-to-1 relationship, only slipping out of congruence for short periods of time. When the gold/dollar relationship is anchored, the oil/dollar relationship remains stable as well. ... When the dollar/gold relationship is malfunctioning, as it is now, capital is wasted as producers try to protect themselves from the damaging impact of inflations and deflations, which ultimately weaken the entire pricing system. The upshot is that prices will eventually come down. But in the meantime, we’ll all be getting squeezed at the pumps.

GOLD vs CRUDE OIL


Today the gold to oil ratio is 8:1.

Our society is in this mess because because we value everything by money. This only plays on human greed. Unfortunately we've lost sight of other more important values like sustainability, and doing more with less.

People are starving in the 3rd world, but not because we're eating meat. Unless we send food aid as bags of grain guarded and distributed by our own troops, it will be hijacked onto the black market by the 'leaders' of those countries. People are poor and starving because 95% of their country's wealth is held by 5% of the population, and the rest starve.

[ohrly?]

Originally Posted by canucksafari

Okay Ohrly, I 'll bite, WHERE???

From the biodiesel man! No not the icecream man - this guy is much better.

Some nice golden fuel that runs way better than pump diesel, lubricates my engine, and provides much more power.

Win - win, holy crap!


...now im waiting for a the world to end,


-Emerson

[MOTERRA]

Originally Posted by M John Galt

GOLD vs CRUDE OIL


Today the gold to oil ratio is 8:1.

Our society is in this mess because because we value everything by money. This only plays on human greed. Unfortunately we've lost sight of other more important values like sustainability, and doing more with less.

People are starving in the 3rd world, but not because we're eating meat. Unless we send food aid as bags of grain guarded and distributed by our own troops, it will be hijacked onto the black market by the 'leaders' of those countries. People are poor and starving because 95% of their country's wealth is held by 5% of the population, and the rest starve.

x2 on that point M john G the poor are suffering and or troops are forced to fight george's WAr over the oil pipeline in afganistan leading to russia. IMO why else would you go there if you couldn't gain some control or power there.

$1.249 can. per ltr. btw :(

[Bahndo111]

There is an interesting article about the world diesel/gas economics in one of the latest Economists. HERE it is, seems like a legit stand point.

[code 621]

Calgary, AB $1.25 L

[cruiser_guy]

On average about $4.10/USgallon in ElSalvador, about $4 US/gallon in Guatemala and about $3.50/USgallon in Honduras and about $2.00/USgallon in Mexico.
The odd part is that in Guatemala diesel and gas are almost the same price (until recently diesel was 10% less), in ElSalvador diesel is about 10% more and in Honduras and Mexico it's 10% less?!?

[CDN_Cruzer]

I just paid $1.31 a litre in Toronto. on the bright side I drove 308Kms and only had to put in 30L! although everyone is flying by me while I do 95km/h on the highway but $40 for 30 litres kinda of sucks!

[RufusTheDufus]

I paid $4.29/gallon here in Maine today. The attendant said prices would be going up tomorrow when the owners arrived.

I'm picking up another 60 gals of B100 on Thursday. Price should be around $2.75/gal.

[87 HJ60]

$1.249/litre in Toronto this afternoon.

[M John Galt]

Laborador City $1.489/litre

[Tapage]

Diesel: 3.80 USD/gal today here in Panamá ..
Gas 91: 3.66 USD/gal

[M John Galt]

Almaty Kazakhstan $1.36 US/gal

[Ron R]

Originally Posted by M John Galt

Almaty Kazakhstan $1.36 US/gal

Is that so?
A year and a half ago (august 2006) the lowest I payed in Kazakhstan was in Urals'k. That was 29 eurocent/liter.
That's about 1,74 USD/gallon. So prices dropped over there !!!

Average was 33 Eurocents/liter

[Discipher]

$123.9 per litre canadian ($1.22 USD)
or $4.68 cad per US gallon (3.78L) ($4.63 USD)
or $5.57 cad per canadian (4.5L) gallon ($5.51 USD)

in Thunder Bay, Ontario

at canadian tire gas pump, also get 5 cents per litre c-tire money which for any one that works on their vehicle is essentially real money so $1.189 per litre

our may long weekend is coming up, wouldnt be surprised to see it climb to $1.40 by then.

price of fuel really only effects my weekday activities, i work 3k from home so parked one vehicle at work, one at home. walk the dog to work and home now. which i could use the excersize anyways and they built a timmies along the way so i can get my coffee still. but my weekend trips camping or such wont be affected whatever the price hits. they pretty much know, whatever they charge, most of us will Shell out for. We're to reliant on vehicles to not pay. 'shakes fist in air'

[2rivers]

BOO to these guys.

A few months back I contacted Biofuel Canada Ltd. and was sent a pretty detailed questionnaire (supply/equip requirements, raw stock, price per litre at pump etc). I filled it out and sent it back promptly and waited and waited for response. Then finally gave up.

Just today after reading some new posts on this thread I looked up their phone number (not given on website) and talked to "the guy" that sent me the form. He says he wont give me prices on their equipment and then hangs up?! Now I am wondering if he is just using a glitzy website to collect raw data from across the country and using for his own marketing purposes. If so - what a fu%&^! pirate.

Sorry for rant/hijack.

Proceed with caution out there....