Which Toyotas got the 3B?

[american psycho]

I really want to score a 3B for my FJ40, and think if I could expand my search to all Toyota vehicles that got the 3B instead of just 'cruisers I might get lucky.

Does anyone have a definitive list of Toyota vehicles that received this motor?

[roscoFJ73]

Any Toyota begining with B in its alpha numeral designation.
I think BB are Coaster buses and BU are Dyna trucks. Im not sure about BXD and BY. Probably tractors or forklifts

BB 10 11 20 21 22 23 24 26 30 31 32 36 40 40L 42 43 46 50 55 58 101
BJ 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 60 61 70 71 73 74 75
BU 20 21 22 23 25 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 40 41 50 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 70 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 98 100 101 102 102L 105 107 110 111 112 112L 120 132 137 140 141 142 145 147 162 172 182 202 211 212 221 222 280 281 297 301 306 346 400 410 420 430
BXD 20
BY 30 31

EDIT BXD20 is the mega cruiser
The BY 30,31 is a Toyo-ace, kind of like a Dyna/Hiace hybrid,Dyna chassis with Hiace cab

If you find any BB55 or BU297,they are 4wd Coasters and Dynas with PORTAL HUBS

[wesintl]

it depends on the year too. a bj40 will be a b engine. the 42 being a 3b

[eleblanc]

BJ42, BJ60 mostly

[fe sus]

Here's a handy list... just cruisers though.
edit: actually it does have dynas, coasters and hilux/hiace listed!
http://cc.oulu.fi/~thu/LC/tech/history.html

[lostmarbles]

Originally Posted by roscoFJ73

Any Toyota begining with B in its alpha numeral designation.
I think BB are Coaster buses and BU are Dyna trucks. Im not sure about BXD and BY. Probably tractors or forklifts

BB 10 11 20 21 22 23 24 26 30 31 32 36 40 40L 42 43 46 50 55 58 101
BJ 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 60 61 70 71 73 74 75
BU 20 21 22 23 25 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 40 41 50 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 70 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 98 100 101 102 102L 105 107 110 111 112 112L 120 132 137 140 141 142 145 147 162 172 182 202 211 212 221 222 280 281 297 301 306 346 400 410 420 430
BXD 20
BY 30 31

EDIT BXD20 is the mega cruiser
The BY 30,31 is a Toyo-ace, kind of like a Dyna/Hiace hybrid,Dyna chassis with Hiace cab

If you find any BB55 or BU297,they are 4wd Coasters and Dynas with PORTAL HUBS

This list is way too extensive, isn't it Rosco? For instance no BJ40 or BJ41 was fitted with a 3B engine by the factory.

I suspect Eleblanc's listing plus some forklifts, toyota dynas etc around 1982 1983 and thereabouts. (Nowhere near such a big list.)

[lostmarbles]

Originally Posted by fe sus

Here's a handy list... just cruisers though.
edit: actually it does have dynas, coasters and hilux/hiace listed!
http://cc.oulu.fi/~thu/LC/tech/history.html

Ooops.
This appeared as I was replying to Rosco's Post.

This looks like the answer and I will keep a copy of it myself too!

Thanks "fe sus"

Edit: Actually this list may have faults too. The 2B engine was fitted to the BJ41 (BJ41 isn't listed) and was the B engine really fitted to a BJ43?

[Surf City]

Now my feelings are hurt. My BJ40 80' has a 3B. Now I guess it was swapped some time ago in NZ. Oh, well. I still love the diesel.

[roscoFJ73]

Originally Posted by lostmarbles

Ooops.
This appeared as I was replying to Rosco's Post.

This looks like the answer and I will keep a copy of it myself too!

Thanks "fe sus"

Edit: Actually this list may have faults too. The 2B engine was fitted to the BJ41 (BJ41 isn't listed) and was the B engine really fitted to a BJ43?

The 43 series goes back to the early 60s so it was around when the 1st diesel came to be in 67,68??

The vast majority of those in my list were 3B because the Dyna and Coaster range exploded in the early 80s

[lostmarbles]

Originally Posted by roscoFJ73

The 43 series goes back to the early 60s so it was around when the 1st diesel came to be in 67,68??

The vast majority of those in my list were 3B because the Dyna and Coaster range exploded in the early 80s

Oh OK. ......Live and learn as they say.

That 43 series must be an "oddball" then that doesn't fit the time-sequence that the BJ40, BJ41 and BJ42 belong to. Am I right? Or do BJ40s BJ41s and BJ42s span decades likewise?

I mean - I thought there was a time sequence where BJ40s all had the B engine (approx 3L in size). Then in the late seventies (or perhaps 1980) these were superseded by the BJ41s that had the 2B engine (approx 3 1/4L in size). These were then manufactured only briefly before the BJ42 came on the scene with 3B engine (3.4L in size)???Is this not correct?

In my ignorance, I just thought the number sequence meant that the BJ43 came after the BJ42. (I don't even know what a BJ43 looks like. But then if it spans decades it must have many different shapes.)

And doesn't the 3B engine belong ONLY to the "early eighties"?

[roscoFJ73]

Originally Posted by lostmarbles

Oh OK. ......Live and learn as they say.

That 43 series must be an "oddball" then that doesn't fit the time-sequence that the BJ40, BJ41 and BJ42 belong to. Am I right? Or do BJ40s BJ41s and BJ42s span decades likewise?

I mean - I thought there was a time sequence where BJ40s all had the B engine (approx 3L in size). Then in the late seventies (or perhaps 1980) these were superseded by the BJ41s that had the 2B engine (approx 3 1/4L in size). These were then manufactured only briefly before the BJ42 came on the scene with 3B engine (3.4L in size)???Is this not correct?

In my ignorance, I just thought the number sequence meant that the BJ43 came after the BJ42. (I don't even know what a BJ43 looks like. But then if it spans decades it must have many different shapes.)

And doesn't the 3B engine belong ONLY to the "early eighties"?

The 40 series was based on the 25 series(see their own forum for details) and was released late 50s.
The 43 means it is a mid wheel base,a predecessor to the 73 series. In fact they added 30 onto all the 40 series to get the new series numbers.eg The 70 was the new 40,the 75 was the new 45 and so on

The ones and twos added to a series number can mean many things depending on the year. Sometimes like in 71 it mean a turboed 70,same as 73 and 74. But in other years such as after 1998 a 74 was coil sprung and the turbo was still a 74,but you would which was which because of HZJ74 and HDJ74

See this FJ43 thread in chat http://forum.ih8mud.com/chit-chat-section/192757-oldest-north-american-40-a.html

[brownbear]

Also in some buses the 3b went right up into the late 1990's.

[roscoFJ73]

Originally Posted by brownbear

Also in some buses the 3b went right up into the late 1990's.

and then they used the 15B

[brownbear]

Originally Posted by roscoFJ73

and then they used the 15B

they pretty much used all the engine blocks at all kinds of different periods.

Here is a 1999 coaster with a 3b

http://www.jazmak.com/txt/289.html

I aslo seen a 94 with a 1hz. MY epc shows 1hz, 15b, 1hd-t, 3b and others.. all with in the same period in the 90's.

[lostmarbles]

Originally Posted by brownbear

they pretty much used all the engine blocks at all kinds of different periods.

Here is a 1999 coaster with a 3b

http://www.jazmak.com/txt/289.html

I aslo seen a 94 with a 1hz. MY epc shows 1hz, 15b, 1hd-t, 3b and others.. all with in the same period in the 90's.

So I take it that you KNOW this minibus has a 3B because it has a 3431cc diesel (that isn't turbo'd) and presumably the 3B is the only Toyota diesel that fits that cc rating Brownbear?

Wow. If I wasn't confident of a lot more life from my old B engine I'd be looking for a late 90s Coaster minibus for a donor engine (to keep as a spare). That way I could have an engine with up to 20 years less use sitting there just waiting for a simple transplant!

Hmmmm. There's a couple of minibuses in the bus fleet at work. Shame. - No Toyota Coasters though.

You realise you're tempting me into a relapse. I'm really trying to stay "clean" from my previous "hoarding addiction".

[roscoFJ73]

Originally Posted by fe sus

Here's a handy list... just cruisers though.
edit: actually it does have dynas, coasters and hilux/hiace listed!
http://cc.oulu.fi/~thu/LC/tech/history.html

One thing I like about this list is it shows a HB31 which is a 12HT powered Coaster .

Now,one of them with 4wd and portals would be real cute

[MrMoMo]

Originally Posted by brownbear

Here is a 1999 coaster with a 3b

http://www.jazmak.com/txt/289.html

Good GOD that thing must be slower than molasses at -44° (C or F, you choose)

How does it even find the power to move, it MUST weigh more than a 60, and my 60 is pretty anemic!

[brownbear]

Originally Posted by lostmarbles

So I take it that you KNOW this minibus has a 3B because it has a 3431cc diesel (that isn't turbo'd) and presumably the 3B is the only Toyota diesel that fits that cc rating Brownbear?

Wow. If I wasn't confident of a lot more life from my old B engine I'd be looking for a late 90s Coaster minibus for a donor engine (to keep as a spare). That way I could have an engine with up to 20 years less use sitting there just waiting for a simple transplant!

Hmmmm. There's a couple of minibuses in the bus fleet at work. Shame. - No Toyota Coasters though.

You realise you're tempting me into a relapse. I'm really trying to stay "clean" from my previous "hoarding addiction".

I am guessing based on those reasons precisely. But I do have a JDM EPC and it clearly showed the 3b in those buses in those years. So I did have some proof with it.

The engine possibly is a 3b II or a 13b , But the size is exactly that of a 3B.

I think it would be slow as shit. But good gearing and if it's only used in crowded cities it would probably be great. The 3b only lack in highway power. Bottom end is superb IMOP.

[lostmarbles]

Originally Posted by brownbear

..... The 3b only lack in highway power. Bottom end is superb .....

Having the early B engine - I know all about lack of highway power Brownbear. But overall it suits me just fine. (I hate to be in a hurry anyway and slow speed enables you to look around. We gots lots of nice scenery here.)

Hey thanks for that.

[roscoFJ73]

Originally Posted by MrMoMo

Good GOD that thing must be slower than molasses at -44° (C or F, you choose)

How does it even find the power to move, it MUST weigh more than a 60, and my 60 is pretty anemic!

Welcome to the 70s aussie school bus
They have very low gearing,so they get away ok,but at 80 KP its all over. My old high school had 2 of them( and a 55 series )
I think the rear diff ratio is 5.26? and 1st gear is about the same as H55F
Some of my friends use to have them as family cars.I went away with them one weekend towing a ski boat,but I dont remember it being too slow,but then maybe it was the beer

I also saw a JDM Hino bus the other day that looked like a Coaster. A bit of research says they have the same engines as Coasters and use the same alpha numeral code with an M added at the end,such as a HZB50M HDB50M or BB50M
It was a very cool looking bus too,much more luxurious than the plain white ones we get here.
Oh,if want to look for info on them ,type in Hino Lassie

Hino badged Coaster

[brownbear]

yah toyota and hino play a bunch of re badging games.

In canada we don't get dyna or such...only hino's. And now they are all ugly looking long nosed beasts.... all for safety they say, Bull ding. They got a cab maker who sells em cheaper.

[The Red Camel]

My 1984 BJ42 has one and I love it.