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03-07-08, 06:15 PM
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To bad about the tranny setup. Must be driving you nuts not being able to drive it. I'm hoping that having everything come from the same vehicle will make things a little easier when I do the swap. Don't give up.
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03-07-08, 06:39 PM
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You are definitely doing it the right way. I think if I ever do it again I will pay someone to come over and help make sure the trans is hooked up right. I wasn't aware that you are supposed to slide the converter on the shaft then install the engine and rotate the engine to bolt the flex plate to the converter. It didn't seem possible, shows how much I know. Fortunately the guy ran the exhaust on the sides of the trans so he won't have to pull it off. It should be a fairly simple removal for someone with a lift and some knowledge.
I am getting a little excited about driving it but I did get about 25 miles on it this week, that was fun. Like I said though, I really couldn't tell much about the engine since the transmission was so bad. Rusty __________________ 94 FZJ80 6.2 diesel 78 FJ40 Restoration beginning |
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03-08-08, 04:31 PM
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Don't feel bad Rusty sometimes its hard to get the torque converter in all the way even when its on the ground in front of you. If it didn't hurt the ears on the converter or the pump face, I doubt that it hurt the internals.
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03-08-08, 07:52 PM
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I just wish I had more options of where to take it, I know the guys that had it for a month will do a good job just worried they will take awhile again but at least I know it will be right and one less thing I need to work on. There are a few things I need to order before driving it much anyway, this will give me a chance to get the parts.
Will post more when I know something, I am hoping it is not going to cost a whole lot but I am expecting around $500 at least, expensive lesson to learn. Rusty __________________ 94 FZJ80 6.2 diesel 78 FJ40 Restoration beginning |
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03-15-08, 03:58 PM
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#185 |
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Rusty any news yet?
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03-15-08, 05:29 PM
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They finally got it up on the lift Friday, told me they were going to try to get it out next week! I think they feel a little bad about taking so long last time. I am excited about finally getting to drive it with a correct shifting transmission, I am sure it will make a world of difference. I am trying to get a few parts gathered for things I need to do when I get it back (alternator & battery cables, crank pulley, belts, fan shroud, etc) Most of these I can do in an afternoon. I am anxious to get it out on a road trip and off road to see what it will do!
Will keep you posted. Rusty __________________ 94 FZJ80 6.2 diesel 78 FJ40 Restoration beginning |
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03-19-08, 10:39 AM
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what day is it?
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03-19-08, 12:03 PM
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That was last Friday, the 14th they got it on the lift. I have been busy this week and haven't had a chance to go check on it but hope to this afternoon. I am not really expecting anything to have been done from their track record with me but maybe I will be surprised. Will post more if anything happens. Rusty
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03-19-08, 02:10 PM
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Do they read this forum? Ooooooops.
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03-20-08, 08:36 AM
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Sorry man, that sux. Thanks for putting it on the line. The rest of us are pulling for a happy ending.
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03-20-08, 01:55 PM
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Checked on transmission yesterday, they were cleaning the shop and were caught up on everything that was putting so far behind. They said they were going to get my trans pulled later and see how bad it is. I going back to check on it again in a little while so I will post back.
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03-24-08, 06:35 PM
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Hi Rusty,
So did the trans shop guy get his cooper re-pipe done at his shop and home. Now he's a fixing to work on yu'r truck? Every time I check back on this thread. This cartoon is what comes to mind. Anyway, really looking forward to reading that you are finally burning fuel... Good luck! Dave |
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03-24-08, 08:50 PM
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It wouldn't have been as frustrating if they had been like the cartoon. They led me to believe the first time they had it in the shop that they would get on it right away. This time they have been a little more upfront with me and let me know it would be a bit before they could get to it. I checked on it Friday and they had the trans out and the pan off, the fluid looked grey, not a good sign, probably the clutches. I told them to just go through it and make it right, no sense not at this point. They were supposed to get it apart today and start with the install. I didn't check on it today but will swing by at lunch tomorrow. Keeping my fingers crossed that I can drive it home this week!
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03-25-08, 09:49 AM
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Sorry bout your luck Rusty, but that has to the slowest trans shop ever.
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03-25-08, 11:15 AM
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They are slow, but we are in the south, everything is slow down here. I am going to check on it today, maybe they are working on it! Rusty
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03-30-08, 05:23 PM
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Rusty, any news?
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03-30-08, 09:53 PM
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Believe it or not I had an employee out last week so I ended up working 12 hour days and never got a chance to go check on it! Now I am out of town until late tomorrow so probably won't know anything until Tuesday, I am hoping I will pick it up then. From there I plan to get it inspected, licensed and then probably straight to the A/C shop so it may out of my hands for another day or two. I am afraid if I don't do it now I may put it off too long and the A/C shop will get busy and it will spend another month there! I need to get it back soon, I am starting to consider converting another one!
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03-31-08, 06:44 PM
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any news?
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04-01-08, 08:22 PM
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Still no news, I am planning to go check on it on the way to work in the morning and hopefully will be able to pick it up at lunch.
Will post tomorrow, can't wait to get some driving impressions and mileage numbers posted. Rusty __________________ 94 FZJ80 6.2 diesel 78 FJ40 Restoration beginning |
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04-01-08, 08:42 PM
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Good deal Rusty! If they don't have it done, maybe you should post thier info so wee can give them a mud slap.
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04-02-08, 08:59 PM
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I finally got a chance to check on it today, no surprise, still not finished. They do however have it rebuilt, bolted to the transfer case and sitting on a transmission jack ready to install. They told me I should be able to pick it up Friday. They also said the owner was out sick today so that may change things a bit too. Call me crazy for taking it to these guys, it has almost been a month again! It took me a little over 3 months to do the entire conversion, they have taken 2 months to build the exhaust and transmission! Oh well, I am not sure if I would do it any different again, these guys are really good and honest and I feel like if there are any problems they will stand behind it, the quick shop wanted nothing to do with it. I am having dreams about driving it, it runs great in my dreams, hope I am not dissapointed in real life! Hope to post good news Friday!
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04-07-08, 04:24 PM
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#202 |
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04-07-08, 07:40 PM
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Wish I had something to post, it has been crazy for me the last 4 days so I haven't had a chance to go check on it. I was planning to go pick it up Friday or today but things just didn't work out. I am not sure it is finished yet, just hoping. I am going to make time tomorrow to go check on it and hopefully get it home!
Will post after I check on it. Rusty __________________ 94 FZJ80 6.2 diesel 78 FJ40 Restoration beginning |
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04-08-08, 09:54 PM
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so?
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04-09-08, 07:44 PM
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I finally got a chance to check on it at lunch today and it was done! (It had been since Monday) Unfortunately I didn't have a way to get it home so I am going to pick it up in the morning. I did however drive it around the block, no transmission slippage this time so I could really get a feel of the power, initial seat of the pants it seems to accelerate better than the 1FZE. The 1st-2nd shift was really hard, I am going to see if they can soften that up a bit, they said it would loosen up some after some miles were put on it so they might tell me to wait on the adjustment, obviously I don't know a thing about automatics but I am going to start researching I think there is website called 700R4 101 that I probably should have read a long time ago. My plan is to get it home and fix a few other problems. First the crank pulley wobbles, (has frayed the belts and squeeks alot) I am going to try a different pulley and replace the belts. I also need a heavier gauge wire for the alternator and second battery. Hopefully I will get tires and a tachometer going. I also need to figure out the cruise control. There are a couple other things not coming to me right now but my main objective is to get some miles on it!
Can't wait to see how it performs on the road (and off) Interesting thing the guy told me at the transmission shop, he said most of the GM transmissions that come in are torn up by not coming to a complete stop before changing gears (use the brakes to come to a complete stop, then shift). He said it is hard on all transmissions but the GM's are the worst. I didn't realize I didn't come to a complete stop (by using the brakes) until he pointed it out to me after watching me back it out of the shop taking it around the block. Will post more when I know more. Rusty __________________ 94 FZJ80 6.2 diesel 78 FJ40 Restoration beginning |
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04-10-08, 08:53 AM
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Rusty -
Really, really glad to hear the good news.  I can not wait to hear how it performs on and off road.. ( fuel econ, etc.) Sorry for being a pain in the **s about with my posts. It was hard for me to see a good man get the run-a-round. But it sounds like your patients has paid off. Kudos!!!  Dave |
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04-10-08, 09:08 AM
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Finally.
 Congrats on the good news. __________________ 1985 fj60, 6.2 military diesel, NV4500, long range fuel tank, Frankenstein 3" lift mostly OME, Con ferr roof rack. |
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04-10-08, 09:46 AM
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Picked it up about 30 minutes ago and drove it to work, runs great! The power is definitely more than the 1FZE. The trans still shifts hard and seemingly at the wrong times but they want me to put a couple thousand miles on it then bring it back for adjustment, they say it loosens up with some miles on it, hopefully that is true. I could live with it the way it is but I am used to the smooth shifting of a modern electronically controlled transmission. I used to own an 88 Suburban with the 700R4 and I don't remember it shifting hard so maybe there is hope. Just from the few miles I put on it today (total now around 40) I think I am going to like it, it is a bit noisy on acceleration but once off the throttle and cruising it is nice. The noise is from the intake, I routed it into the passenger fender just like the stock set-up and I think it just echoes around and amplifies it a bit. I am going to re-route it towards the radiator in hopes it will quiet the interior noise a bit but it really isn't as bad as a cummins or ford. My father used to have a ford 6.9 diesel that I drove quite a bit and the 6.2 is considerably quieter than that. I also plan to insulate the firewall to see if that helps.
I plan to take off early tomorrow to get it liscensed and play with it a bit, will post more later, may put some miles on it this weekend before I put it in the A/C shop next week, hopefully it will be a quick visit there, again being in a small town there is only one shop in town with the capabilities to make custom hoses so I am at their mercy. I used to get frustrated by these things years ago when I first moved here but there isn't much you can do about it, if you are in hurry you better stay out of the south, the only thing fast around here is their driving, (I won't be doing that anymore going from my Volvo turbo to my diesel Cruiser!) Rusty __________________ 94 FZJ80 6.2 diesel 78 FJ40 Restoration beginning |
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04-11-08, 07:25 PM
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Drove it around a bit more yesterday, the belt squeal was just too much so this afternoon I pulled the fan, removed all the belts and took the lower pulley off. After checking it closely it was bent so that explains the problem, now I have to find another one. I am sure there is one at a local salvage yard but it takes hours to get anything there, it is the worst run place I have ever seen, it is sort of like an Ice Cream place where you go in take a number and wait your turn, except no numbers and not that organized. They have about 4 parts pullers so when your turn comes up you go out into the yard with them, find your part and wait for them to pull it. There are usually about 10-15 people waiting in line each Saturday morning so it takes at least 2 hours of standing just to get your turn! We do have a U-Pull it really close to me, they have one 6.2 that has been really picked over but the block is still in it, I just can't remember if the pulley is on it.
Anyway, once that is done I am re-doing the dual battery set-up and hopefully it will time to start driving it. Will post more later Rusty __________________ 94 FZJ80 6.2 diesel 78 FJ40 Restoration beginning |
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