Oil

[onefsatchevy]

What kind of oil are you guys running in your trucks?? Brands weight......

[BillyGHusk]

Amsiol synthetic 10W-40

3B- DD in Seattle. 77,000 miles on engine

[canucksafari]

Originally Posted by onefsatchevy

What kind of oil are you guys running in your trucks?? Brands weight......

Canola B40

[gbcruiser]

Motomaster 10W30 diesel with a litre of oil treatment with each change; changed at least every 3000-4000 kms. I'd prefer to run Rotella T but Crappy Tire only seems to stock it in 15W40 which I don't need...

[bluerock]

Rotella t 15w 40 in summer and 0 w 40 synthetic in winter. going to change to full synthetic for year round.

[M John Galt]

10% to 20% clear canola + ULSD

Delo 15W-40
Mobil1 5W-50
Amsoil synthetic ATF
Amsoil synthetic gear oil
RedLine synthetic Heavy Shockproof gear oil

[roscoFJ73]

Toyotas own 20-50 diesel oil and their injector cleaner. I never use to look at the Toyota oil but now the price is much the same as what I was using.

[bc81]

dello 400, 5-40 synthetic does the trick, or 15w40 conventional oil

[bigbrowndog]

Originally Posted by onefsatchevy

What kind of oil are you guys running in your trucks?? Brands weight......

Different oil in each of 3 trucks and different again for the H.S.V, what engines are we talking about?

[onefsatchevy]

Personaly the 1HD-T but always looking for opinions. You guys talking about canola oil, this is for fuel right?? as in Bio-Diesel? not as a lubricant?

[canucksafari]

Originally Posted by onefsatchevy

Personaly the 1HD-T but always looking for opinions. You guys talking about canola oil, this is for fuel right?? as in Bio-Diesel? not as a lubricant?

Yes and yes. Adding canola or runing bio is also an excellent way to ensure upper cylinder lubrication. But ya, we were just having a bit of fun with words, as you know dino diesel is also oil.

BTW, I run Delo 400 12 months a year. I've been told that it is not a good idea to keep switching oils - especially to alternate between dino lube and synthetic.

[Canuck]

Rotella T 15w40 year round

[bj70_guy]

I used Delo 400 15-40 for years in my BJ70, but recently started using the Tech 2000 15-40 "Premium Diesel" in the 20L pail from Wal-Mart. The specs are nearly identical to delo 400 and it's <$30 for the pail. I change the oil @ 3000 miles.

[bigbrowndog]

Originally Posted by onefsatchevy

Personaly the 1HD-T but always looking for opinions. You guys talking about canola oil, this is for fuel right?? as in Bio-Diesel? not as a lubricant?

If I had a 1HDT in any of my trucks I would definitely use Castrol CXJ.
2h with less than 200,000 Ks prefer Castrol RX Super for it's soot carrying ability and after 200,000 prefer a SAE 20 50 oil.
My 80 series with 3F I use Pennzoil 15 50 Synthetic Blend.
Castrol VMX-M 75 85 lets the 80 series gearbox shift a great deal easier as the M was designed in conjunction for Mitsubishi to allow their syncro's to work better in their boxes. My 2C worth. cheers

[lynchmob]

I use mobil 1 synthetic of various weights depending on time of year.

[onefsatchevy]

Switching between synthetic and regular oil is not a good idea (creates leaks). I know this from gassers (and working in the oil patch for many a year). Synthetic oil has physically smaller particles, thus when you run normal oil it gets into the seals and cracks and such, your motor wears into this, then when you switch to synthetic the smaller particles "push" out the bigger standard oil particles and bingo we have a slow leak.

As for the canola oil in the fuel, do you need to do anything to it or do you just pour it straight in the tank?? And a what percentage mixture?? I'm obviously new to deisel....

[Dazza]

Originally Posted by BillyGHusk

Amsiol synthetic 10W-40

3B- DD in Seattle. 77,000 miles on engine

are you driving a 60 series?

if so, i would love to check out your truck.. i am thinking of swapping a 3b into mine.... live in seattle too.

[onefsatchevy]

So are you guys really adding just straight canola oil into the tank?? or do you need to do something to it first? what kind of mixture do you use? what are the benifits?

[canucksafari]

Originally Posted by onefsatchevy

So are you guys really adding just straight canola oil into the tank?? or do you need to do something to it first? what kind of mixture do you use? what are the benifits?

I have added 2L to about 60L of Dino just to try but with Bio being cheaper than new canola at the store, it doesn't make much sense here. M John is the one who does it on a regular basis so I will defer to him.

[M John Galt]

I mix 5% to 20% clean canola oil with ULSD, depending on the season. The main reason is to improve combustion and reduce pollution in the 13B-T engine.

It was running 10% canola when the tailpipe emissions were recently tested at a govt sponsored pollution test.

HC 8 ppm
CO 0.04 %
CO2 1.8 %
O2 18.6 %
opacity 1%

The techs were quite surprised with these very low numbers from a diesel, especially one 18 years old. The only other vehicles running that clean were new VW TDIs and new gasoline cars. No other trucks, gas or diesel were that clean.

Biodiesel isn't available here.

[Dougal]

Originally Posted by M John Galt

I mix 5% to 20% clean canola oil with ULSD, depending on the season. The main reason is to improve combustion and reduce pollution in the 13B-T engine.

It was running 10% canola when the tailpipe emissions were recently tested at a govt sponsored pollution test.

HC 8 ppm
CO 0.04 %
CO2 1.8 %
O2 18.6 %
opacity 1%

The techs were quite surprised with these very low numbers from a diesel, especially one 18 years old. The only other vehicles running that clean were new VW TDIs and new gasoline cars. No other trucks, gas or diesel were that clean.

Biodiesel isn't available here.

Those are impressive numbers, but what load was on the engine at the time? With still 18.6% o2 coming out it can't have been much.

[cruiser_guy]

Originally Posted by roscoFJ73

Toyotas own 20-50 diesel oil and their injector cleaner. I never use to look at the Toyota oil but now the price is much the same as what I was using.

How old is that picture of the Toyota oil container? It looks like it's relatively old tech. The SAE rating is only CF while the Delo 400 that I put in my truck last week as a CH/CI rating meaning it's much more up to date. I try to get an oil which is the latest technology even though my truck is 25+ years old. I also look for an oil with a turbo recommendation. The heat as the oil goes through the turbo is hard on the oil as well.

[David*BJ70]

Valvoline MaxLife Full Synthetic Motor Oil

[M John Galt]

Originally Posted by Dougal

Those are impressive numbers, but what load was on the engine at the time? With still 18.6% o2 coming out it can't have been much.

I don't set the test procedures the govt does. The absolute numbers might be impressive, but more so was that no other diesel trucks, and few diesel cars even came close with the same test procedure.

[roscoFJ73]

Originally Posted by cruiser_guy

How old is that picture of the Toyota oil container? It looks like it's relatively old tech. The SAE rating is only CF while the Delo 400 that I put in my truck last week as a CH/CI rating meaning it's much more up to date. I try to get an oil which is the latest technology even though my truck is 25+ years old. I also look for an oil with a turbo recommendation. The heat as the oil goes through the turbo is hard on the oil as well.

A low revving old lunk like a 1HZ doesnt need anything else,putting oils in that are meant for turbo and high speed diesels is just like feeding caviar to pigs.
I dont think the PO spent up big on oil either and after 200000 klms the BEB were perfect.

Toyota have another oil for newer type diesels but it was little thin for my liking.

[hedydd]

In my 1HD FT-E the oils I have used have been long-drain types from new. With dino oil meeting API CG4 and better dino oils I changed at 5000 miles. For the last 60,000 miles I have gone synthetic, using truck oils meeting ACEA E4 and Mercedes mb228.5 ultra long drain specifications and changed at every 10,000 miles. I have no doubt that the oil would be good for up to three or four times that milage with more efficient filtration. The viscosity I use is 10w/40 but I would use a 0w/40 with confidence. The '*W' part of the viscosity is important because this is an overhead cam engine which needs fairly thin oil when starting from cold.

[canucksafari]

On our older high soot producing engines unless you can filter the soot out you I believe you still have to do the regular oil change. Yes, maybe it will go 10,000 kms between changes in other engines but at 10,000 kms you would proabably have considerable oil thickening in our older diesels.

[Dougal]

Originally Posted by canucksafari

On our older high soot producing engines unless you can filter the soot out you I believe you still have to do the regular oil change. Yes, maybe it will go 10,000 kms between changes in other engines but at 10,000 kms you would proabably have considerable oil thickening in our older diesels.

Apparently the bypass filters built into many of the filters we're using will filter out a certain level of soot.
My engine has a seperate bypass filter which my filter guru says would filter roughly 50% of the 3-10 micron size soot particles and it wasn't a particularly high quality filter.

Oil analysis is the way to know for sure.

[canucksafari]

[quote=Dougal;2705357]Oil analysis is the way to know for sure./quote]

My Safari has a stock by-pass filter. I have not done any oil analysis yet. However, I can tell you that the consistency of the oil appears to be very different by the time it is around 5,000 kms where the manual says to change the oil. I did have a deiscussion about this with some of the Trollers in Australia. Their consensus was that the modern oil could go max 7,000 kms in the TD4.2 because of the sooting. However, I do not think their trucks had regular filter and a stock by-pass filter. Next oil change I send in a sample and let you guys know how it tests. It would be nice to find out that the extra $30 I pay for a by-pass filter could extend my oil changes a few 1000 kms.

[83bj60]

Originally Posted by canucksafari

Canola B40