Bring Diesel to USA and Canada Petition

Mike Shull · 08-19-07, 08:47 PM

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/TOYD4D

Found this web site that has a petition to bring Diesels to North America. Not sure if it will help but can't hurt right?

Mike Shull · 08-19-07, 10:56 PM

Thanks for the signatures! Keep it up.

83bj60 · 08-20-07, 05:48 AM

Great initiative, hope it blossoms into the millions

cruiser_guy · 08-20-07, 08:16 AM

For all the difference it will make, I signed it. Personally I think that Toyota will continue with the hybrid crap because it sounds good from a "Save the world!" perspective.

drexx · 08-20-07, 08:55 AM

20Aug2007 (UTC +8)

Check this out:
http://www.pressroom.com.au/newpress.../07LC70/20.xls

I want that 1VD-FTV (4.5L, common-rail, turbo-intercooled diesel engine) with the H150 5-speed manual transmission on the 2008 Tacoma! And with the solid axle up front too! And lockers!

Tapage · 08-20-07, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drexx

20Aug2007 (UTC +8)

Check this out:
http://www.pressroom.com.au/newpress.../07LC70/20.xls

I want that 1VD-FTV (4.5L, common-rail, turbo-intercooled diesel engine) with the H150 5-speed manual transmission on the 2008 Tacoma! And with the solid axle up front too! And lockers!

Shoot me on 2VD-FTV in a 71 series cruiser with locker also ..

Mike Shull · 08-20-07, 06:24 PM

I'll take the L/C 78 work truck....send it over!

How long has Toyota been making the V8 Diesel?

94landcruiser · 08-20-07, 06:28 PM

Signed Thanks!

Kief · 08-20-07, 06:54 PM

Not that I can afford one but I'm sure it won't be long now that I signed... sigh...

Mike Shull · 08-20-07, 10:02 PM

Like they say...every vote counts...except in the presidential election...he he.

Keep up the good work everyone!!! We have had 32 votes since I posted last night!
I just talked to the fellow who started the petition, Jay is very pleased to see others care.
Post it on other Toyota web sites for me if someone would.....and I’ll try to keep it going around as well.

Thanks!

Mike Shull · 08-21-07, 09:55 PM

Anyone else want to sigh the petition? We are up to 233 signatures

Bj not Cj · 08-22-07, 01:14 AM

Done! I fully agree with your stand point.

osogordito · 08-22-07, 01:17 AM

Signed!!!!

groucho · 08-22-07, 10:02 AM

North Americans buy and drive the vehicles we have to choose from because of the lobby efforts of the big three auto makers in Detroit.

If the lobbyists don't have a plan that includes diesels, no diesel vehicles will be imported. The American consumer won't be given the chance to purchase such a vehicle.
The lobbyists for the big 3 are that powerful.
That's why Detroit's autos are unsafe, poorly built, and get poor fuel economy.

Write your congressman/woman and ask for more choices that you as the citezens who elected them are asking for. They are supposed to be working for us anyway, aren't they?

BTW--I signed 'cuz I want one too!

Mike Shull · 08-22-07, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by groucho

North Americans buy and drive the vehicles we have to choose from because of the lobby efforts of the big three auto makers in Detroit.

If the lobbyists don't have a plan that includes diesels, no diesel vehicles will be imported. The American consumer won't be given the chance to purchase such a vehicle.
The lobbyists for the big 3 are that powerful.
That's why Detroit's autos are unsafe, poorly built, and get poor fuel economy.

Write your congressman/woman and ask for more choices that you as the citezens who elected them are asking for. They are supposed to be working for us anyway, aren't they?

BTW--I signed 'cuz I want one too!

You are absolutely right!!! But doesn't one of "the big three" include Chrysler? Or not...Either way they have come out with a cool diesel option and put it in two SUV's...what the heck...jeep first to the States? Well I'm not too mad just that it didn't get put in the TJ first...I think that would be a great option for "Jeep"...however I will still hold out for Toyota no matter what the others have to offer.....it is kind of irresistible though if they put one in the TJ don't you think?

Thank you all for your signatures....we have almost doubled the petition counts since Sunday!!! Great job....it has been working better than I thought!!! Keep it up!

HZJ60 Guy · 08-22-07, 08:25 PM

I singed it, but its meaningless. If they gave a rats ass we'd have them already.

cruiser_guy · 08-22-07, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Shull

You are absolutely right!!! But doesn't one of "the big three" include Chrysler? Or not...Either way they have come out with a cool diesel option and put it in two SUV's...what the heck...jeep first to the States? Well I'm not too mad just that it didn't get put in the TJ first...I think that would be a great option for "Jeep"...however I will still hold out for Toyota no matter what the others have to offer.....it is kind of irresistible though if they put one in the TJ don't you think?

Thank you all for your signatures....we have almost doubled the petition counts since Sunday!!! Great job....it has been working better than I thought!!! Keep it up!

I hate to burst everyone's bubble but the "Big Three" have diesel passenger vehicles outside of North America. We see Ford Ranger pickups and Chevy S10's with turbo-diesels from the factory here in Central America and Jeep has had diesels for years outside of North America as well. The problem is largely due to the idiotic view that many Americans have about diesels that they are noisy, smelly and, thanks to GM and their "diesel 350", unreliable!! There is some reluctance on behalf of the "Big Three" but it's not only them.

GLTHFJ60 · 08-22-07, 09:10 PM

251 now.. My name is on it.

acer · 08-22-07, 11:12 PM

#254, thanks for the link

canucksafari · 08-22-07, 11:44 PM

I am on at #255. Like cruiser_guy says, only Canada and the US are cutoff from clean and cheap diesel vehicles. Well, I would add Mexico to that. However, they have a much better selection of gasser vehicles than Canada and the US. Here to dreaming...

M John Galt · 08-23-07, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canucksafari

...only Canada and the US are cutoff from clean and cheap diesel vehicles...

I disagree about Canada. We can import clean diesel vehicles directly from Japan.

Coiled Cruiser · 08-23-07, 01:26 AM

#256 - I hope this helps.

There's a diesel yaris??? With the success of the diesel smart cars up here you would think Toyota would bring some of the diesel yaris's out here!

roscoFJ73 · 08-23-07, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Shull

I'll take the L/C 78 work truck....send it over!

How long has Toyota been making the V8 Diesel?

Its been on sale in Australia and New Zealand since April 07

roscoFJ73 · 08-23-07, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruiser_guy

I hate to burst everyone's bubble but the "Big Three" have diesel passenger vehicles outside of North America. We see Ford Ranger pickups and Chevy S10's with turbo-diesels from the factory here in Central America and Jeep has had diesels for years outside of North America as well.

The Ford Ranger is badged as a Mazda Bravo in oz. No gasser option .Choice of 2 diesels ,take it or leave it.

Mike Shull · 08-23-07, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruiser_guy

I hate to burst everyone's bubble but the "Big Three" have diesel passenger vehicles outside of North America. We see Ford Ranger pickups and Chevy S10's with turbo-diesels from the factory here in Central America and Jeep has had diesels for years outside of North America as well. The problem is largely due to the idiotic view that many Americans have about diesels that they are noisy, smelly and, thanks to GM and their "diesel 350", unreliable!! There is some reluctance on behalf of the "Big Three" but it's not only them.

Actually you are not bursting anyone's bubbles....we already know that the manufactures have better options outside the US...that's why I said "in the USA" Or what ever I said when I was talking about Jeep....we know there out there.....and we just want them here to share the fun and excitement.

And I agree....they scared us into thinking diesels are bad....especially with the Mercedes 80's diesel....I think they allowed them into the US on purpose

Mike Shull · 08-23-07, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M John Galt

I disagree about Canada. We can import clean diesel vehicles directly from Japan.

Yes....tell me more....does Toyota offer clean diesel options in Canada.....I don't know.

canucksafari · 08-23-07, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M John Galt

I disagree about Canada. We can import clean diesel vehicles directly from Japan.

If you are talking used than you can do the same into the US.

Only in Canada you can import them a few years before they are available to import into the US. I think you understood the intent was N E W diesel trucks and SUVs.

08-19-07, 08:47 PM	#1
Mike Shull IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Colorado. TLCA# 11463 Posts: 75	Bring Diesel to USA and Canada Petition http://www.PetitionOnline.com/TOYD4D Found this web site that has a petition to bring Diesels to North America. Not sure if it will help but can't hurt right? __________________ 1978 FJ-40 CAT

08-20-07, 05:48 AM	#3
83bj60 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Laurentians North of Montreal, QC Posts: 1,402	Great initiative, hope it blossoms into the millions __________________ 91HDJ81VX (The Beast), 4B JDM, since Nov 06 83BJ60 (The Old Faithful), Still Running, Gone to a New Home 83BJ60 (Rusty but Trusty), Dec 90 - July 98, Parted Out 76FJ40 (Big Red), April 87 - July 93

08-20-07, 08:16 AM	#4
cruiser_guy IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mixco, Guatemala/Cranbrook & Vancouver, B.C., Canada TLCA# 16387 Posts: 7,362	For all the difference it will make, I signed it. Personally I think that Toyota will continue with the hybrid crap because it sounds good from a "Save the world!" perspective. __________________ '82 BJ60 H55 tranny, AXT turbo 3B diesel, high nickel alloy head, A/C, BDS lift, factory PTO, Aussie rear locker, OEM LSD front, 4:11's, 32's, PERFECT frame! '76 FJ55, 3B turbo, alloy head, H41 tranny, 3 sp. transfer, 33's, A/C, PTO winch, long range tank! '67 FJ45LV shop project c/w 3B turbo diesel transplant & H41 4 speed, 3 speed transfer, PTO! www.wirrell.com

08-20-07, 08:55 AM	#5
drexx IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 536	20Aug2007 (UTC +8) Check this out: http://www.pressroom.com.au/newpress.../07LC70/20.xls I want that 1VD-FTV (4.5L, common-rail, turbo-intercooled diesel engine) with the H150 5-speed manual transmission on the 2008 Tacoma! And with the solid axle up front too! And lockers! __________________ Drexx Laggui - TLCA; 4x4PH UZJ-100; FZJ-80L; FZJ-80; HZJ-80L; LN-166 Metro Manila, Philippines Action and adventure pics! UZJ-100W; FZJ-80L; HDJ-80L specs

08-20-07, 06:24 PM	#7
Mike Shull IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Colorado. TLCA# 11463 Posts: 75	I'll take the L/C 78 work truck....send it over! How long has Toyota been making the V8 Diesel? __________________ 1978 FJ-40 CAT

08-19-07, 10:56 PM	#2
Mike Shull IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Colorado. TLCA# 11463 Posts: 75	Thanks for the signatures! Keep it up. __________________ 1978 FJ-40 CAT

08-20-07, 06:28 PM	#8
94landcruiser IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Westwood, Ca/Ixtapa MX/Ahwatukee, Az Posts: 1,027	Signed Thanks! __________________ ARB Bullbar, Front OME 850J Rear Custom Slee springs approx.10% stiffer than OME 863 pin 7 mod & CDL, Kenwood DVD/Garmin NAV, Power inverter, auxfan, rt temp gauge mod & a bunch of other things……

08-20-07, 06:54 PM	#9
Kief IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Southwest Oregon Posts: 1,299	Not that I can afford one but I'm sure it won't be long now that I signed... sigh...

08-20-07, 10:02 PM	#10
Mike Shull IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Colorado. TLCA# 11463 Posts: 75	Like they say...every vote counts...except in the presidential election...he he. Keep up the good work everyone!!! We have had 32 votes since I posted last night! I just talked to the fellow who started the petition, Jay is very pleased to see others care. Post it on other Toyota web sites for me if someone would.....and I’ll try to keep it going around as well. Thanks! __________________ 1978 FJ-40 CAT

08-21-07, 09:55 PM	#11
Mike Shull IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Colorado. TLCA# 11463 Posts: 75	Anyone else want to sigh the petition? We are up to 233 signatures __________________ 1978 FJ-40 CAT

08-22-07, 01:14 AM	#12
Bj not Cj IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Vancouver Posts: 7	Done! I fully agree with your stand point. __________________ :hillbilly YUP!

08-22-07, 01:17 AM	#13
osogordito IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 15	Signed!!!! __________________ 1985 BJ 60 Stock www.gregorysullivan.com

08-22-07, 10:02 AM	#14
groucho Dude, Seriously... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Arvada, Colorado TLCA# 13973 Posts: 193	Write your congressman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! North Americans buy and drive the vehicles we have to choose from because of the lobby efforts of the big three auto makers in Detroit. If the lobbyists don't have a plan that includes diesels, no diesel vehicles will be imported. The American consumer won't be given the chance to purchase such a vehicle. The lobbyists for the big 3 are that powerful. That's why Detroit's autos are unsafe, poorly built, and get poor fuel economy. Write your congressman/woman and ask for more choices that you as the citezens who elected them are asking for. They are supposed to be working for us anyway, aren't they? BTW--I signed 'cuz I want one too! __________________ WØIIN Juvenile delinquency is always rooted in adult delinquency. Roorack Gutter Clamp Brackets in stock NOW!! Roofrack brackets for the 100 series and FJ Cruiser coming soon!! Crossmembers for roofrack available now!!

08-22-07, 08:25 PM	#16
HZJ60 Guy Tank Buster Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Seattle area TLCA# 13102 Posts: 2,337	I singed it, but its meaningless. If they gave a rats ass we'd have them already. __________________ 2001 VW TDI Bora 1987 Toyota HZTJ-60 I'm a democrat member of the House of Representatives, and I've got what it takes to take what you've got!

08-22-07, 11:12 PM	#19
acer IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: north idaho Posts: 101	#254, thanks for the link __________________ -82BJ60 -84 FJ60 -75 BMW R90/6 aircooled superiority

08-22-07, 11:44 PM	#20
canucksafari IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Abby Posts: 2,340	I am on at #255. Like cruiser_guy says, only Canada and the US are cutoff from clean and cheap diesel vehicles. Well, I would add Mexico to that. However, they have a much better selection of gasser vehicles than Canada and the US. Here to dreaming... __________________ John G. 姉 Join the Import Vehicle Owners Association of Canada: Fight for what is right

08-23-07, 01:26 AM	#22
Coiled Cruiser IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: North Surrey BC, Canada Posts: 30	#256 - I hope this helps. There's a diesel yaris??? With the success of the diesel smart cars up here you would think Toyota would bring some of the diesel yaris's out here! __________________ 91 LJ78 -My TOY- RHD JDM import, 2" O.M.E. lift 99 Mustang Conv -Hers- (totalled)

08-23-07, 11:51 AM	#28
83bj60 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Laurentians North of Montreal, QC Posts: 1,402