Cummins 6BT conversion - Page 2

brownbear · 05-24-07, 11:58 AM

Yah those springs are not liking that weight. I can see them failing on a rough road.

Very nice build up.... keep us posted

Captain23 · 05-31-07, 06:47 PM

more pics!

The cut and turn axle finally made it, just waiting on the rebuild kit. Split case is here, again waiting for the rebuild kit. Tim's been putting a new engine in his 40 the past little while.
ahhh waiting waiting!!!

Captain23 · 06-05-07, 06:53 PM

just found out the t-case has a hairline crack in the outer shell by the idler shaft. Anyone have a empty case they wanna part with?

Captain23 · 06-11-07, 06:25 PM

Some news,

T- case came back from die penetrant test, it looks all good, 80-90% positive its casting flaws. Tim was really awesome taking it to the next level trying to make sure were putting the best equipment together we can here! So rebuild of t-case is underway. The NV4500 is all cleaned up, freshly gasketed and painted, with the advanced adapter bolted on, lookin pretty sweet!

Ordered the Cromoly longfields, inner axles and rears, should be seeing a lot of progress next couple weeks!

Tapage · 06-12-07, 01:11 PM

That's it's a huge tranny . ! congrats dude ..

DBS311 · 06-12-07, 01:36 PM

I'm curious to know how much longer the drivetrain is with the NV4500+adapter and stock t-case. I have the A440, but would love to replace it. Anyone know the length of the NV4500 compared to the A440???

The more conversions I read about, the more I want to do it to my Cruiser. My '75 Bronco has a fuel injected 347, NV4500, Klune underdrive, and Atlas II. That would be a lot of fun to put into my 62!!! I could even use the rear 9" with 35 spline axles seeing that it is about the same WMS-WMS as the factory LC axle. Just gotta get around the 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern.

dieselcruiserhead · 06-12-07, 01:57 PM

killer man..

boots4 · 06-18-07, 02:34 PM

Have you been to the shop to check out your cruiser lately?

Captain23 · 06-23-07, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boots4

Have you been to the shop to check out your cruiser lately?

Hey mike, no I've been busy working down south here, lots to do during the summer on farmland, hopefully heading up sometime next week.

We did run into a couple snags though, the NV4500 doesn't bolt up to the 93 bellhousing so we tried a 98 but that won't bolt up to the engine, there was a half inch of space we need to fill so Tim ordered an adapter/spacer from Dodge that makes it fit. Also, anyone interested in the NV4500 to splitcase adapter from Advanced Adapters, Tim found the instruction's measurements on cutting the shaft were 15/32nds off too long, He called AA and supposedly they fixed it.

More pics and updates next week!

Captain23 · 07-18-07, 02:14 PM

Well its been a while, just got some pics back from Tim, Its looking AWESOME!

The Front end is totally rebuilt chromoly longfields and axles inside, new brakes all around hysteer inplace add-a-leafs to support that hefty engine!

Centerforce clutch kit looking like sliced oranges
NV4500 mated to the Splitcase ready to go in

Getting close now!

I highly recommend Tim for a buildup like this, every step of the way his attention to detail and thorough advise makes for a sweet rig!

boots4 · 07-18-07, 05:41 PM

I like how the front spring hangers came out. Much better than the man-a-fs. I always thought those were too tall and hung down as much as a non SR. Looks like you have a nice slope to ramp over obstacles.

So what's left to do?

When you are in next time could you get some more pics of the passenger spring perch and ubolt?

Captain23 · 09-01-07, 01:31 PM

It seems theres always a lot of time between posts in the summer! Heres a bunch more photos.

Lets see, NV4500, splitcase installed, one heavy mother!

rear crossmembers built out of 1x2 and 2x2 squaretubes reinforced with 1/4in plates all the way around, stout!

track bar hella stout with a shackle to help angle the rear out instead of just down.

rear axles cromoly, new shoes, one boot spanky new

Rancho 9000 shocks with incab adjustability reversed, ford shocktowers up front.

Whats left, exhaust, electrical, drivelines , brakelines, clutch cylinders and svo system.

Getting close!

NV4500 Splitcase up an in there!

Crossmembers being built

Skidplate

Installed

Rear Crossmember with shackle for trackbar

Trackbar

Installed

Rear before with trackbar mount

Rear After, New Shoes Snappin fresh!

Locker

Captain23 · 09-01-07, 01:33 PM

Ready to go in!

Ford Shock Towers

boots4 · 09-03-07, 01:43 PM

Good to see the progress. You just might be driving it soon.

Captain23 · 09-03-07, 03:02 PM

Thanks Mike! I'm hoping not much longer, been without a rig all summer, killin me!
Your's is lookin pretty sweet too, nice job on the shackles....One day i hope to be doing this myself too!

Tapage · 09-03-07, 05:01 PM

You made from scratch those new front shocks towers . ?

boots4 · 09-03-07, 08:17 PM

tapage, those look like the famous ford shock towers to me that many pick up at a ford dealer.

Captain23 · 09-03-07, 09:44 PM

yep, fords.

kenji4life · 09-04-07, 01:28 PM

Very nice. Awesome to see that you're making progress with your LC. I haven't even started with mine!

Where is this shop?

Captain23 · 09-04-07, 03:31 PM

Tim is out in Hillsboro off of tv highway.

www.landcruiserspecialties.com

kenji4life · 09-04-07, 06:24 PM

I might drop by there sometime. I'd love to see your rig.

Mountain Goat · 09-04-07, 06:55 PM

OK. Now I have Cruiser envy.

Sweet build man. I'd love to meet you and check it out when finished.

kenji4life · 09-04-07, 07:00 PM

How's your experience with LCS?

If you don't mind me asking, this must be costing you a load.. at least 10k?

BJ-44 · 09-04-07, 07:05 PM

Progress looks good I like the crossmembers and the BAM bar. I see that you are running a lock right in there. I don't see it lasting too long with the power of the 6BT. I've broken three of them with my 2B. A detroit or diff locks may be in order for the future.

Captain23 · 09-04-07, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BJ-44

Progress looks good I like the crossmembers and the BAM bar. I see that you are running a lock right in there. I don't see it lasting too long with the power of the 6BT. I've broken three of them with my 2B. A detroit or diff locks may be in order for the future.

I was thinking the same, but it was in there when i got the axles, and i have to cut some corners cause its definitely costing a bunch.

Kenji4life,

yeah its upwards of there already, but its almost done and worth every penny. Not to mention aside from the conversion, i did a SOA, rebuild on the t-case, longfield+cromoly axles up front, cromoly rear, brakes, new spring packs and the list goes on. Luckily half the diesel stuff was done when i bought the rig!

Tim's a one man show, but he does it all! Right now he's doing a frame up resto on a 40 that i've been watching the whole way through, looks sweet, total engine rebuild, everything! For me, he's been super helpful in suggestions and attention to detail in every step. I mean look at those crossmembers! Highly recommended!

Tapage · 09-05-07, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boots4

tapage, those look like the famous ford shock towers to me that many pick up at a ford dealer.

Thanks ..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain23

yep, fords.

Thanks I will see here at my local ford dealer if are available and pricing ..

Captain23 · 09-05-07, 03:47 PM

Tapage,

they should be relatively cheap I think these were like 12 bucks a piece.

Tapage · 09-05-07, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain23

Tapage,

they should be relatively cheap I think these were like 12 bucks a piece.

this price itś over there .. let me ask and post the price here .. sure be much more .. ( Latin America dude .. no option )

05-24-07, 11:58 AM	#31
brownbear Mod in Hibernation Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where diesels purr and turbos whine TLCA# 15584 Posts: 6,183	Yah those springs are not liking that weight. I can see them failing on a rough road. Very nice build up.... keep us posted __________________ -84 BJ60, Finally on the FN road! -91 FJ80, wife's ride Iron Butt award winner of the Cruise Moab 08 !

05-31-07, 06:47 PM	#32
Captain23 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 252	more pics! The cut and turn axle finally made it, just waiting on the rebuild kit. Split case is here, again waiting for the rebuild kit. Tim's been putting a new engine in his 40 the past little while. ahhh waiting waiting!!! __________________ PORTLANDERS + NW CRUISERS:: $@#!! L A N D C R U I S E R S P E C I A L T I E S !!! H O R R I B L E W O R K , W O R S E A C C O U N T A B I L I T Y!!! Last edited by Captain23; 06-08-07 at 12:49 AM.

06-05-07, 06:53 PM	#33
Captain23 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 252	just found out the t-case has a hairline crack in the outer shell by the idler shaft. Anyone have a empty case they wanna part with? __________________ PORTLANDERS + NW CRUISERS:: $@#!! L A N D C R U I S E R S P E C I A L T I E S !!! H O R R I B L E W O R K , W O R S E A C C O U N T A B I L I T Y!!!

06-11-07, 06:25 PM	#34
Captain23 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 252	Some news, T- case came back from die penetrant test, it looks all good, 80-90% positive its casting flaws. Tim was really awesome taking it to the next level trying to make sure were putting the best equipment together we can here! So rebuild of t-case is underway. The NV4500 is all cleaned up, freshly gasketed and painted, with the advanced adapter bolted on, lookin pretty sweet! Ordered the Cromoly longfields, inner axles and rears, should be seeing a lot of progress next couple weeks! __________________ PORTLANDERS + NW CRUISERS:: $@#!! L A N D C R U I S E R S P E C I A L T I E S !!! H O R R I B L E W O R K , W O R S E A C C O U N T A B I L I T Y!!!

06-12-07, 01:57 PM	#37
dieselcruiserhead IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Park City & Heber City, Utah TLCA# 9439 Posts: 2,266	killer man.. __________________ - Cummins 4BTswaps.com Forums - Diesel Conversion Website TLCA# 9439 Since 1999, Wasatch Cruisers '89 Toyota Pickup V6, OME, 32's '69 FJ55 Project on locked FZJ80 Frame, Cummins 4BT, NV5600, Dana 300

06-12-07, 01:36 PM	#36
DBS311 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Coronado, CA Posts: 733	I'm curious to know how much longer the drivetrain is with the NV4500+adapter and stock t-case. I have the A440, but would love to replace it. Anyone know the length of the NV4500 compared to the A440??? The more conversions I read about, the more I want to do it to my Cruiser. My '75 Bronco has a fuel injected 347, NV4500, Klune underdrive, and Atlas II. That would be a lot of fun to put into my 62!!! I could even use the rear 9" with 35 spline axles seeing that it is about the same WMS-WMS as the factory LC axle. Just gotta get around the 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern.

06-18-07, 02:34 PM	#38
boots4 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Portland OR Posts: 719	Have you been to the shop to check out your cruiser lately? __________________ 85 FJ60, testing, Cummins 4BTA, manual 4L80E, 203 to splitcase doubler, SOA, 38s, some other stuff. build-up: Family Haulin' FJ60

07-18-07, 02:14 PM	#40
Captain23 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 252	Well its been a while, just got some pics back from Tim, Its looking AWESOME! The Front end is totally rebuilt chromoly longfields and axles inside, new brakes all around hysteer inplace add-a-leafs to support that hefty engine! Centerforce clutch kit looking like sliced oranges NV4500 mated to the Splitcase ready to go in Getting close now! I highly recommend Tim for a buildup like this, every step of the way his attention to detail and thorough advise makes for a sweet rig! __________________ PORTLANDERS + NW CRUISERS:: $@#!! L A N D C R U I S E R S P E C I A L T I E S !!! H O R R I B L E W O R K , W O R S E A C C O U N T A B I L I T Y!!!

07-18-07, 05:41 PM	#41
boots4 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Portland OR Posts: 719	I like how the front spring hangers came out. Much better than the man-a-fs. I always thought those were too tall and hung down as much as a non SR. Looks like you have a nice slope to ramp over obstacles. So what's left to do? When you are in next time could you get some more pics of the passenger spring perch and ubolt? __________________ 85 FJ60, testing, Cummins 4BTA, manual 4L80E, 203 to splitcase doubler, SOA, 38s, some other stuff. build-up: Family Haulin' FJ60

09-01-07, 01:31 PM	#42
Captain23 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 252	It seems theres always a lot of time between posts in the summer! Heres a bunch more photos. Lets see, NV4500, splitcase installed, one heavy mother! rear crossmembers built out of 1x2 and 2x2 squaretubes reinforced with 1/4in plates all the way around, stout! track bar hella stout with a shackle to help angle the rear out instead of just down. rear axles cromoly, new shoes, one boot spanky new Rancho 9000 shocks with incab adjustability reversed, ford shocktowers up front. Whats left, exhaust, electrical, drivelines , brakelines, clutch cylinders and svo system. Getting close! NV4500 Splitcase up an in there! Crossmembers being built Skidplate Installed Rear Crossmember with shackle for trackbar Trackbar Installed Rear before with trackbar mount Rear After, New Shoes Snappin fresh! Locker __________________ PORTLANDERS + NW CRUISERS:: $@#!! L A N D C R U I S E R S P E C I A L T I E S !!! H O R R I B L E W O R K , W O R S E A C C O U N T A B I L I T Y!!! Last edited by Captain23; 09-04-07 at 10:20 PM.

09-01-07, 01:33 PM	#43
Captain23 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 252	Ready to go in! Ford Shock Towers __________________ PORTLANDERS + NW CRUISERS:: $@#!! L A N D C R U I S E R S P E C I A L T I E S !!! H O R R I B L E W O R K , W O R S E A C C O U N T A B I L I T Y!!! Last edited by Captain23; 09-04-07 at 10:21 PM.

09-03-07, 01:43 PM	#44
boots4 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Portland OR Posts: 719	Good to see the progress. You just might be driving it soon. __________________ 85 FJ60, testing, Cummins 4BTA, manual 4L80E, 203 to splitcase doubler, SOA, 38s, some other stuff. build-up: Family Haulin' FJ60

09-03-07, 03:02 PM	#45
Captain23 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 252	Thanks Mike! I'm hoping not much longer, been without a rig all summer, killin me! Your's is lookin pretty sweet too, nice job on the shackles....One day i hope to be doing this myself too! __________________ PORTLANDERS + NW CRUISERS:: $@#!! L A N D C R U I S E R S P E C I A L T I E S !!! H O R R I B L E W O R K , W O R S E A C C O U N T A B I L I T Y!!!

09-03-07, 08:17 PM	#47
boots4 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Portland OR Posts: 719	tapage, those look like the famous ford shock towers to me that many pick up at a ford dealer. __________________ 85 FJ60, testing, Cummins 4BTA, manual 4L80E, 203 to splitcase doubler, SOA, 38s, some other stuff. build-up: Family Haulin' FJ60

09-03-07, 09:44 PM	#48
Captain23 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 252	yep, fords. __________________ PORTLANDERS + NW CRUISERS:: $@#!! L A N D C R U I S E R S P E C I A L T I E S !!! H O R R I B L E W O R K , W O R S E A C C O U N T A B I L I T Y!!!

09-04-07, 06:55 PM	#52
Mountain Goat Maximum Yakpower Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 446	OK. Now I have Cruiser envy. Sweet build man. I'd love to meet you and check it out when finished. __________________ Six Sigma Black Belt in Douchebaggery Turbo Yak - 1987 F(H)J-60 12H-T, H55F, 32 x 11.5 BFG, home-built stuff, Aussie stuff, JDM stuff. Bio powered.

09-04-07, 01:28 PM	#49
kenji4life IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Beaverton, OR USA Posts: 26	Very nice. Awesome to see that you're making progress with your LC. I haven't even started with mine! Where is this shop?

09-04-07, 03:31 PM	#50
Captain23 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 252	Tim is out in Hillsboro off of tv highway. www.landcruiserspecialties.com __________________ PORTLANDERS + NW CRUISERS:: $@#!! L A N D C R U I S E R S P E C I A L T I E S !!! H O R R I B L E W O R K , W O R S E A C C O U N T A B I L I T Y!!!

09-04-07, 06:24 PM	#51
kenji4life IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Beaverton, OR USA Posts: 26	I might drop by there sometime. I'd love to see your rig.

09-04-07, 07:00 PM	#53
kenji4life IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Beaverton, OR USA Posts: 26	How's your experience with LCS? If you don't mind me asking, this must be costing you a load.. at least 10k?

09-04-07, 07:05 PM	#54
BJ-44 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 170	Progress looks good I like the crossmembers and the BAM bar. I see that you are running a lock right in there. I don't see it lasting too long with the power of the 6BT. I've broken three of them with my 2B. A detroit or diff locks may be in order for the future.

09-05-07, 03:47 PM	#57
Captain23 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 252	Tapage, they should be relatively cheap I think these were like 12 bucks a piece. __________________ PORTLANDERS + NW CRUISERS:: $@#!! L A N D C R U I S E R S P E C I A L T I E S !!! H O R R I B L E W O R K , W O R S E A C C O U N T A B I L I T Y!!!