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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Michigan/Costa Rica
Posts: 179
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Wow! How do you keep it so clean??
__________________ Stock FJ62 SOA Samurai Tintop Ford E-350 4x4 Diesel M-29 Weasel |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Being stalked by 2 hillbillies
Posts: 1,427
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I'd do the sums on 25mpg. If you do solely slow speed highway work then you could average 32. But offroad and urban driving will slaughter that number. __________________ VOODOO Engineering: Doing it first time with one clay doll, not four times with two. |
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#663 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Being stalked by 2 hillbillies
Posts: 1,427
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__________________ VOODOO Engineering: Doing it first time with one clay doll, not four times with two. |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: valley of the sunstroke, AZ
Posts: 2,808
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4BD's dont get 32 MPG,, i dont know where you got that number. i have seen between 22 and 27 MPG in mine, real numbers, real driving real cruiser. loaded to the hilt for camping was 22-24MPG and unloaded driving around town mostly on surface streets is 26-27MPG,, its been almost a year now and i am doing a pretty consistant 24-25MPG.
also as i and many many other diesel owners have said and will continue to say, if your doing a diesel swap to save money dont bother. you may save at the pump in mileage but you'll spend more money on everything else related to the engine. __________________ 75 BDJ55 soy cruiser 01 TACO got salsa ? |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 30
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Thanks, I definately will check with AA before getting the trans built.
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__________________ '91 FJ80 in the middle of 4BD1T swap. Pain is mandatory, suffering is optional! |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 30
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Help with IP
I am trying to remove my IP to do a bottom end rebuild and am having trouble. I followed the FSM, removed all connections, 4 front mounting nuts, 1 rear nut and bracket. I have pulled, tugged, yanked, and even some mild crow bar action and it will not come all the way out. It comes out about 3/4 in and can rotate about the same due to the holes are slotted, but it will not come out fully
. Any advice? I'm sure I can get it when I remove the timing cover and idler gear but I want to know how to get it loose if the engine was still in the truck.
__________________ '91 FJ80 in the middle of 4BD1T swap. Pain is mandatory, suffering is optional! |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Being stalked by 2 hillbillies
Posts: 1,427
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It will take a lot of mucking around before it comes loose. Then replacing it will take longer because you've got to line up both the gasket and the timing gear. __________________ VOODOO Engineering: Doing it first time with one clay doll, not four times with two. |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NE Texas
Posts: 570
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hayes167, any pictures of your conversion? Would love to see it and hear how it runs in the 80 when you are finished. Would love to compare it to my 6.2, it would be great if we could get all the 80 conversions together someday to compare them all!
Rusty __________________ 94 FZJ80 6.2 diesel 78 FJ40 Restoration beginning |
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#669 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Thanks for the realistic notes about the mpg. I can update the scenerio now.
The improved fuel milage is not the means to my end, however I want to understand when the benefit will payoff. I want to be about to tow a cruiser with a crusier and have the option to use diesel. Last edited by Cruiser Jimmy; 03-09-08 at 09:20 PM. |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: valley of the sunstroke, AZ
Posts: 2,808
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i'll tell you exactly when to expect payoff, when you fire it up the first time and piss your pants,, consider it even
__________________ 75 BDJ55 soy cruiser 01 TACO got salsa ? |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: park city UT and Heber City UT
Posts: 65
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A twist as dougal mentioned is also required. the image may help..... brute force will not help the situation, this thing slips out. And as dougal mentioned, getting it out is the easy part, getting it back in is the hard part. the IP gear does not want to stay in the position needed for the timing, it wants to rotate one way or the other as it is sitting TDC, and does not want to stay there. But if you are doing a bottom end rebuild, just remove the idler gear, crank and the IP, and it will be much easier. |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: park city UT and Heber City UT
Posts: 65
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glow plug relay system
anyone make a glow plug relay system to work automatically?
I currently have a push button. works okay, but long term would be nice to have it work as a automatic system. 1. auto timer, with a light for 'wait to start' 2. controlled by TS housing temp 3. help with cold start in the morning. 4. maybe even turn on with my remote Unlock/alarm. i have an isuzu relay, but I think I need more electronics. TS temp sensor? timer? dash light? Push button sure was easier! __________________ 88 FJ62, with Isuzu 4BD1t...Its a diesel.... |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NE Texas
Posts: 570
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I bought a variable glow plug timer/relay for my 6.2 diesel conversion from a place called Peninsular Diesel. It doesn't have all the features you mention but it is wired through the ignition so it works just like a factory set-up. I can't remember the exact time but it can be set from like 5-30 seconds or something by the turn of a screw. I could probably wire a light into it easily but I just go by the click of the selenoid to know when it shuts off, it is pretty loud probably because I mounted it on the firewall on the drivers side. It was a bit expensive, seems like around $175 but I like the idea of it being like a factory set-up. Rusty
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Michigan/Costa Rica
Posts: 179
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Be sure to get the connectors also. Pin 7 of the Glow Timer goes to the "Glow Indicator". The other side of the indicator is wired to 12 V. __________________ Stock FJ62 SOA Samurai Tintop Ford E-350 4x4 Diesel M-29 Weasel |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 30
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IP
Thanks for the tips guys!
__________________ '91 FJ80 in the middle of 4BD1T swap. Pain is mandatory, suffering is optional! |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Excellent illustrations. This thread is starting to become a real force to be reckoned with IMO
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Michigan/Costa Rica
Posts: 179
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4BD2-T FSM Available for download.
For all you working on 4BD2T's, there is now the FSM for this engine available on MattF's site: Master Portal - forums.bauchan.org/Downloads
A while back in this thread, there was a discussion regarding the Altitude Compensation Aneroid and the turbo boost compensator. This manual has illustrations of both in the fuel injection section and may clear up some of the controversy. Also, for those interested in clever and inovative ways of doing things, check out how Isuzu uses the altitude compensating aneroid to limit fueling under high coolant temp conditions to help prevent destroying your engine. __________________ Stock FJ62 SOA Samurai Tintop Ford E-350 4x4 Diesel M-29 Weasel |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Nice work, astr. This is awesome!
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#679 |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 31
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4BD/NV4500 kits are now ready!!
Ok, the first of the kits are now ready!!!
![]() The basic kits include 1 adapter plate w/bolts, 1 pilot bushing, and 1 clutch disk. Don't forget the first 10 to send back a write-up with pics will get $50 back. I will try to get some pics of the whole thing bolted together in the next few days. Dieseltim 770-712-8644 ![]() |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 66
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And the price is?
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 31
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In respect for the forum rules and so as not to make anyone mad by advertising prices. I have not included it in any of my postings. Plz pm me and I will be happy to tell you all the details.Dieseltim
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Michigan/Costa Rica
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I talked to Dieseltim and he told me the kits are $750 and includes the machine work needed to modify the Isuzu 5speed bellhousing. If you chose to have someone else modify your bellhousing then they are knocking $100 off the kit for the machine work. The kit includes the pilot bearing, the clutch disk and the adapter plate for $650.
Sound like a pretty good deal to me. Wish my wife wasn't insisting on an automatic. __________________ Stock FJ62 SOA Samurai Tintop Ford E-350 4x4 Diesel M-29 Weasel |
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The Anti-Leafer
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Is that 1/2" alum plate? I'd use 3/4" min. steel plate for all the havoc between. That will be too much stress on the alum & it will eventually fail. Think about how much wt. you are sandwiching together. Are those 6 - 7/16" fine threaded countersunk bolts? Not enough clamping fasteners & too much mat'l. is removed for those bolt heads - you'll soon see stress cracks there first. Look at any SM plate adaptor & compare it to your design. JMO & I'm just an armchair enjuneer
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#684 |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 31
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Adapter plate
The plate is 6065 t651 Aircraft quality alum. and all of the bolts are 1/2 coarse threaded bolts. I went with the 1/2" thick so that the input shaft and the pilot bearing have the proper ingaugement, if you use anything thicker you will not be into the pilot bearing far enough. I decided that 1/2 was thicker than the bell housing, so the bellhousing would most likely fail before the adapter plate.
For those interested here is a few more pics. ![]() Dieseltim ![]()
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Being stalked by 2 hillbillies
Posts: 1,427
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A steel plate will flex 1/3 of what aluminium does, but it will also weigh 3x as much. __________________ VOODOO Engineering: Doing it first time with one clay doll, not four times with two. |
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#686 |
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IH8MUD Junior
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Nice, I wondered what was happening with your adapter. Seems like you needed to use a Dodge NV4500, Is that right ?
__________________ " I'm still pissed about the Lincoln Lamp ! " 1983 FJ60 Weber carb, Aussie locker, H55F, Homemade bumpers and rock rails, winch, headers, OME Dakar springs, Saginaw ps, smog pump AWOL, 33/12.5s, 4.11s, York OBA, Camo, more to come much to wife's chagrin
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#687 |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 31
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You do have to have an NV4500 to use this kit, it can be Dodge or Gm but it will have to have an input shaft for a Dodge because they are about 1" longer than the Gm input shaft. If you have a Gm NV4500 then all you have to do is change out the input and you can use this adatper kit.Dieseltim
Last edited by Dieseltim; 04-09-08 at 07:45 PM. |
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