will a 13bt fit directly into a fj62

toynut · 11-05-06, 09:57 AM

I have found a decent fj62 , i would consider buying it and driving it while i find a 13bt if one can easily be put into a 62 ? should be the same as a 60 ?

thanks kevin

stevek · 11-05-06, 09:59 AM

Stickboy did that swap into a 60 and did an awesome writeup

http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...eat+glow+timer

Diescipel · 11-05-06, 11:01 AM

Should be the same as a 60. The question is are you going to do just an engine swap or engine/tranny combo? I don't know about compatibility between the 13BT and the A442. Somebody else who does will probably chime in....

B

A2B in a TLC · 11-05-06, 11:30 AM

My 1988 BJ74 with 13BT has an A440 tranny.

Bruce

roscoFJ73 · 11-05-06, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toynut

I have found a decent fj62 , i would consider buying it and driving it while i find a 13bt if one can easily be put into a 62 ? should be the same as a 60 ?

thanks kevin

You will have to cut and weld some new mounts and get the appropriate radiator and transmission.
It is doable as the 62 is much the same as a 60
.
If a 12HT could be sourced it would be a little easier and much nicer to drive.
Of course a 12HT i going to cost more

zander · 11-06-06, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toynut

I have found a decent fj62 , i would consider buying it and driving it while i find a 13bt if one can easily be put into a 62 ? should be the same as a 60 ?

thanks kevin

For what its worth here is my thread on a 12h-t swap. A source on the motor and details about the mounts as well...

http://forum.ih8mud.com/diesel-tech-24-volts-systems/108473-hj60-frame-powertrain-swap-12ht-a440.html

mac · 11-06-06, 12:28 PM

I think the A440 w/ a 13bt will have a different valve body than w/ the 3FE.

Stone · 11-06-06, 03:34 PM

should be a different bell housing also...

70sguy · 11-07-06, 11:45 PM

If you are interested in a 13B-T w/ A440F or a 12H-T w H55F
shoot me a pm. Ciaran at CruiserLand Ent is putting a 13B-T/ H55F into a customers FJ62 right now.

Tapage · 11-08-06, 03:39 PM

I'm pretty sure matting a 13B-T with a 440 is posible .. but with a 442 more complicated .. coz it never come and the 442 was born in 90 ! not in 80

crushers · 11-08-06, 03:56 PM

different imput shaft in the tranny from the gasser to the diesel...

ylexot · 11-09-06, 01:11 AM

Tell me more about the transmission mating.

I am considering using a dead engine FJ62 as a donor for my Bj60. I am a little ambivalent about the transmission so long as it has an overdrive gear, ie something other than my 4spd. The 62 obviously has the A440. So, I'm wondering if I can adapt it to my B3?

I know the HJ60s had the A440 as an option. Can the shift points of a gasser A440 be adjusted to the needs of a diesel? What else is involved?

70sguy · 11-09-06, 02:16 AM

3B onto an A440? Don't go there. A 3B can't afford the loss of power through the tranny... ya ya.. I know, you can turbo the 3B. I would go 13B-T minimum. As Wayne mentioned, different input shaft splines. If you are going to put the 3B in then put the 4 or 5speed in along with it.
1HZ H55F 5speed makes for a nice 60 powerplant. 130 hp, 189ftlbs, about the same numbers as a stock 2F, you can turbo em with great results.

ylexot · 11-11-06, 12:32 AM

Hmm... now I'm stuck in a pickle.

Basically, I love the 60 series. But my wife doesn't like riding in it as is, ie she wants more modern amenities. I admit I'd like a quieter interior (carpet would be a big upgrade from the no-mess floor) and comfortable seats myself.

I also love the diesel. I've found my B3 plenty powerful for my needs. Doesn't lag on the highway up hills. Merges with traffic reasonably well, though won't win any drag races. Climbs the mountain just fine.

I can't afford to restore my rig. I can't really afford a good clean donor cruiser. I've seen a couple DOA 4runners I could afford.

Does anyone know if the B3 would shoehorn into a 4runner and what transmission would be a good fit?

Tapage · 11-13-06, 04:05 PM

Let me see .. 3B in a 4Runner .. I thought in 3B with tranny and t-case coz you really need input shaft and so .. for sure if you change the 4 runner t-case you must need to change at least the rear axle housing ..

rove_mcanus · 11-15-06, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stone

should be a different bell housing also...

also i believe the input shaft differs between the b, h, and f motors
as for a 3b in a 4runner, i've seen a picture of it done in a hilux which is much the same vehicle. all i remember was it was a very tight fit. I think the radiator still squeezed in though.

as for the transmission i would assume he just used a h55f and split transfer.

Behemoth60 · 11-17-06, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toynut

I have found a decent fj62 , i would consider buying it and driving it while i find a 13bt if one can easily be put into a 62 ? should be the same as a 60 ?

thanks kevin

If you fold down the back seat, that 13B-T should go in through the rear tail gate pretty easy. I once had two full 3B's in the back of a BJ60. That 13B-T should fit in there easy.

Peter Straub

crushers · 11-17-06, 06:10 PM

ROTFLMAO!!

Peter for the next US president...

11-05-06, 09:57 AM	#1
toynut IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Port Moody B.C. Posts: 637	will a 13bt fit directly into a fj62 I have found a decent fj62 , i would consider buying it and driving it while i find a 13bt if one can easily be put into a 62 ? should be the same as a 60 ? thanks kevin __________________ 1984 red Bj60 sold 1984 brown Bj60 sold 1985 gray Bj 60 sold 1988 FJ 62 My current Ride Wanted Fj 40 project .

11-05-06, 09:59 AM	#2
stevek IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New Albany, Ohio TLCA# 5372 Posts: 431	Stickboy did that swap into a 60 and did an awesome writeup http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...eat+glow+timer __________________ 1993 FZJ80 lockers and leather 1981 HJ47 2H-T H55f 2002 Lexus Ls430 TLCA 5372

11-05-06, 11:01 AM	#3
Diescipel IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: 95570 TLCA# 14854 Posts: 841	Should be the same as a 60. The question is are you going to do just an engine swap or engine/tranny combo? I don't know about compatibility between the 13BT and the A442. Somebody else who does will probably chime in.... B __________________ Brendan 1983 BJ42 bioD, lots o' Aqualu, TIC Parabolics/DT8000s, Tuffy, 33x9.5 BFG ATs, SOLD

11-05-06, 11:30 AM	#4
A2B in a TLC IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tsawwassen, BC TLCA# 15095 Posts: 254	My 1988 BJ74 with 13BT has an A440 tranny. Bruce __________________ Bruce, '76 FJ40 (sold long ago), '88 JDM BJ74V (recently sold), '86 HJ60, TLCA #15095, Coastal Cruisers member "The worst moment for any atheist is when he feels grateful for something and has no-one to thank."

11-06-06, 12:28 PM	#7
mac rust and moth consumables Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wet Coast Posts: 844	I think the A440 w/ a 13bt will have a different valve body than w/ the 3FE. __________________ -Peter Mac- 1990 HDJ81 1997 40th 1967 Norton Atlas 1986 Yamaha RZ350 1996 Ducati 900SS SP Ya...it's like crack to me... www.bestinshowexhibits.com

11-06-06, 03:34 PM	#8
Stone IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: May 2004 Location: BC, Canada TLCA# 13772 Posts: 1,992	should be a different bell housing also... __________________ Stone's Land Cruiser & Flyfishing Pics Flyfishing British Columbia: www.flyfishbc.com bcfishingreports.com

11-07-06, 11:45 PM	#9
70sguy IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Greendale B.C Canada Posts: 578	If you are interested in a 13B-T w/ A440F or a 12H-T w H55F shoot me a pm. Ciaran at CruiserLand Ent is putting a 13B-T/ H55F into a customers FJ62 right now. __________________ 93 1HD-T powered FZJ80-Extreme valve body-Walbro-ARB- Snork-OME- SOLD! 97 FZJ80 Antique Sage 40th, bone stock. 1HD-FT 5spd conversion starting soon VW A4 Jetta TDI My other diesel is a Locomotive www.gscruiserparts.com

11-08-06, 03:56 PM	#11
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,828	different imput shaft in the tranny from the gasser to the diesel... __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today

11-09-06, 01:11 AM	#12
ylexot IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 90	Tell me more about the transmission mating. I am considering using a dead engine FJ62 as a donor for my Bj60. I am a little ambivalent about the transmission so long as it has an overdrive gear, ie something other than my 4spd. The 62 obviously has the A440. So, I'm wondering if I can adapt it to my B3? I know the HJ60s had the A440 as an option. Can the shift points of a gasser A440 be adjusted to the needs of a diesel? What else is involved? __________________ Timothy 1989 FJ62 1985 BJ60instein (for sale ) 1981 BJ60 RIP (engine kindly donated to the '85 ) 1984 Mercedes 300SD - biodiesel

11-09-06, 02:16 AM	#13
70sguy IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Greendale B.C Canada Posts: 578	3B onto an A440? Don't go there. A 3B can't afford the loss of power through the tranny... ya ya.. I know, you can turbo the 3B. I would go 13B-T minimum. As Wayne mentioned, different input shaft splines. If you are going to put the 3B in then put the 4 or 5speed in along with it. 1HZ H55F 5speed makes for a nice 60 powerplant. 130 hp, 189ftlbs, about the same numbers as a stock 2F, you can turbo em with great results. __________________ 93 1HD-T powered FZJ80-Extreme valve body-Walbro-ARB- Snork-OME- SOLD! 97 FZJ80 Antique Sage 40th, bone stock. 1HD-FT 5spd conversion starting soon VW A4 Jetta TDI My other diesel is a Locomotive www.gscruiserparts.com

11-11-06, 12:32 AM	#14
ylexot IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 90	Hmm... now I'm stuck in a pickle. Basically, I love the 60 series. But my wife doesn't like riding in it as is, ie she wants more modern amenities. I admit I'd like a quieter interior (carpet would be a big upgrade from the no-mess floor) and comfortable seats myself. I also love the diesel. I've found my B3 plenty powerful for my needs. Doesn't lag on the highway up hills. Merges with traffic reasonably well, though won't win any drag races. Climbs the mountain just fine. I can't afford to restore my rig. I can't really afford a good clean donor cruiser. I've seen a couple DOA 4runners I could afford. Does anyone know if the B3 would shoehorn into a 4runner and what transmission would be a good fit? __________________ Timothy 1989 FJ62 1985 BJ60instein (for sale ) 1981 BJ60 RIP (engine kindly donated to the '85 ) 1984 Mercedes 300SD - biodiesel

11-17-06, 06:10 PM	#18
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,828	ROTFLMAO!! Peter for the next US president... __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today

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