Turbo Glide or AXT Turbo Group Buy Interest?

[bigbrowndog]

Originally Posted by tlcruiserman

I guess I should not stock Turbo glide turbos anymore

Why not? Make them an offer they can't refuse.
http://www.turboglide.com.au/index.c...tegory.display

[Radd Cruisers]

You know, the industry is really going for a poo when individuals can buy better than a company. Big reason I got out of parts and sales over the last year.

Tried here local with ARB, stuff is being whored out at ultra low prices, pretty much what I would pay.

Sad part is people who want installations will come to me and get nothing more than a install and then prolly will be asked to support the product you make no money on if anything were to go wrong.

I often ask this question to customers, when you go to work do they pay get payed?

Rant over......

Originally Posted by tlcruiserman

I guess I should not stock Turbo glide turbos anymore

[BreckenridgeCruiser]

Don't worry, we can order through you.

I'd rather support a local business. How soon do you think you will be able to get stock?

Kraig

[tlcruiserman]

Well here is what happens, and why individuals feel they can get a better deal than going through a dealer or company that carries it. I have been working with turboglide and planning on a bulk order to go with some other parts I am shipping over from OZ. Depending on how much stuff I get dictates a full container, partial container or a few pallets. Anyting I do when sending it by sea will be much cheaper than shipping air. However (and here is the part most people forget) anything I bring in via sea frieght or as a company I will be paying customs and duty in addition to the shipping and product price.

Now when the company is willing to ship direct to a customer sometimes (not saying it is supposed to happen this way) many times all they end up paying is shipping, no customs or duty. so they may end up paying more for shipping but when you add in the other fees it comes out the same.

So many do not take this into account and then think that the company is making money on them just because they have it in stock (which cost money to stock as well). In reality the costs are usually greater for the company. The only advantage the company has over the individuals in this regard is we have it in stock and ready to ship so if you need it right away you can get it. But the down side of that is you can get stuff shipped from anywhere in the world in a matter of days, and it is only getting easier.

My comment earlier was basically me saying there is no point in me stocking turbo's for diesel owners if they are going to go buy them direct. Which is not a problem, just a change in plans for me. I don't want anyone to take it out of context or think I am upset about it, that was not it at all.

My whole business is based on finding stock and selling things that most people can not get or can not get easily - like Toyota Snorkels is a good example. Trubo's were looking like they were in the same category but maybe not.

Please go ahead and do a group purchase for turbos if you have a deal going on

Cheers,

Michael

[tlcruiserman]

Originally Posted by BreckenridgeCruiser

Don't worry, we can order through you.

I'd rather support a local business. How soon do you think you will be able to get stock?

Kraig

I appreciate that Kraig, and if I could match the price I would love to do it. I think what will end up happening is with customs/duty I can not match the price, not to mention the individual shipping for each order, not sure if that cost would be taken into account either.

Cheers,

Michael

[BreckenridgeCruiser]

Here's an idea... as well as buying turbo kits, can you get your hands on H55fs? Maybe we can do a group buy of lots of stuff through you and help you minimize your stocking and inventory costs since stuff is sold the minute it hits the shore (I used to be a process management consultant).

Kraig

[tlcruiserman]

Originally Posted by BreckenridgeCruiser

Here's an idea... as well as buying turbo kits, can you get your hands on H55fs? Maybe we can do a group buy of lots of stuff through you and help you minimize your stocking and inventory costs since stuff is sold the minute it hits the shore (I used to be a process management consultant).

Kraig

H55F Is have, unfortunetly they have input shaft for Diesel engines, not Gassers

Cheers,

Michael

[brownbear]

Small business only survive with good service. Big warehouse business always offer better prices, but wheres the love man!

tlc- How do indivduals not have to pay duty and customs stuff but you have to?

I have no idea how the USA works for that. But in Canukia we pay no matter what. I ordered from US companies before and it always gets me. Unless it was made in the USA. Then its that whatever...freetrade thingy.

When I bought my ARB bumper I priced it in the US from a shop in Washington. He wanted 700 USD roughly.
But customs would hit me, brokerage, shipping, gst, pst UPS charges...blah blah.
I bought local from my Toyota dealer for 1200 Canadian including shipping. Same bumper ARB. 1200 is like 1050 USD. But I didn't have to worry about if it came damaged or anything as FOB was right here in my town.

So my thing is always try to buy local, and not internationaly. Where was I going with this.................

[cruiser_guy]

BB it also happens in Canada! If we get something through the postal system generally, unless it's high value, there is no duties or taxes (too much trouble to collect). If it comes in by courier then there almost always is duties and taxes as well as hefty brokerage fees.
It makes one want to buy local where possible but sometimes ordering internationally as an individual is more advantageous.

[Jan-78FJ40]

Originally Posted by brownbear

tlc- How do indivduals not have to pay duty and customs stuff but you have to?

individuals just slip through the system. Someone in australia posts a package with a turbo kit in it, and the postal service delivers. if nowhere it shows up what it is, and how much it is, and that it is commercial, mostly it goes uninspected. Not legal, but it's happening.
On the other hand, if you have a container full of stuff, there is no way it will slip through.

just how the system works.
j

[BreckenridgeCruiser]

You are in luck!

I have a BJ44 and need an H55f with the B input shaft. Got one? I'd like one with the transfer on it if possible. I could even trade you my H41 if you have a maket for them with the real crawlers. i'd like one with lower miles than my engine if possible (207km).

Okay, I got an email back from Turbo Glide. all kits will be $2,390 AUD plus shippping. that's $100 AUD (~$79 USD) off of what they quoted me before.

TLC, can you meet that?

For you 1HZers that a better deal as your kits are more expensive that the B series guys.

Let me know all!

Kraig

[tlcruiserman]

Originally Posted by brownbear

Small business only survive with good service. Big warehouse business always offer better prices, but wheres the love man!

tlc- How do indivduals not have to pay duty and customs stuff but you have to?

I have no idea how the USA works for that. But in Canukia we pay no matter what. I ordered from US companies before and it always gets me. Unless it was made in the USA. Then its that whatever...freetrade thingy.

When I bought my ARB bumper I priced it in the US from a shop in Washington. He wanted 700 USD roughly.
But customs would hit me, brokerage, shipping, gst, pst UPS charges...blah blah.
I bought local from my Toyota dealer for 1200 Canadian including shipping. Same bumper ARB. 1200 is like 1050 USD. But I didn't have to worry about if it came damaged or anything as FOB was right here in my town.

So my thing is always try to buy local, and not internationaly. Where was I going with this.................

Yep Canada is one of the worst (nothing person with you guys I think your great ) But I can tell you that if I ship the same item to Canada as to Australia it cost more to ship to Canada and takes longer (usually) to get it there. And getting stuff from Canada is the same thing (if it goes air) I can get it cheaper and quicker from OZ. Go figure.

The other posts explain how individuals can get away sometimes without the duty/customs and me as a business never can.

One other thing, I have had several customers want me to clasify stuff I sell as made in USA so it is free trade to Canada, but what they do not realize is if I do that, it triggers the IRS (or whatever agency it is) to check my business status and if I am not a manufacture and following all those additional rules as a manufacture exporting I get fined (I did not do that but I have a friend that owns a company and it happend to him, so I would not even go there).

Cheers,

Michael

[brownbear]

Yah it tough sending thru Canada.

I have never tried dealing with a part from the usa thru the post. But I will next time. I hate UPS. Everytime I used UPS I have been stung bad. Almost made me cry

I bought a fender(60 series non usa) from Sor. Price was 150 usd. Then I had to pay Sor 170 usd to ship it. Once it hit the boarder another hundred or more, with fee/tax/crap fees etc...

By the end I sat back, did the exchange and realized it cost me 600 canadian.

That was my rh fender. Later in the project I decided I wanted a lh fender. I really did not want to pay the same amount.

So I priced Napa in my town, they were able to sell me an fj usa fender for 265 canadian. SO I bought it an welded over the vent hole.

So I really try not to buy from the USA. Now I have an old 77 mercedes. And buying parts in canada is impossible. Damm.

[bigbrowndog]

X 2, it took several weeks for a number plate to reach the west coast of Canada from Oz by Air Mail. U.S.A. West coast about 10 to 14 days.

[tlcruiserman]

I thought I would share my first bad experience buying parts from Canada Toyota Dealer (in BC area) this was about 5 years ago and I need a voltage regulator for a BJ70. Hunted high and low, and finally got refered to this Toyota Dealer (not any of the ones I hear about on here, which is a good thing). Well I got the quote and thought it was high but I really needed the part. so $277.00 Canadian was the cost they said it included all shipping to my door. Well withing several weeks I got 2 bills in the mail one for shipping charges and one for duty and customs, in total it cost me over 300.00 USD to get a $47.00 voltage regulator (the one that goes in the alternator). I learned my lesson quickly.

Cheers,

Michael

[Tapage]

The question is .. we can get better price if we bought more than 6 turbo kits for example . ?

for diferent aplications .. just thought I'm the only one with 2H . ?

I'm just cuoting .. if I can buy one .. but just trying to keep under 1800 USD .. the hole pack !

[rgsiii]

Originally Posted by tlcruiserman

I thought I would share my first bad experience buying parts from Canada Toyota Dealer (in BC area) this was about 5 years ago and I need a voltage regulator for a BJ70. Hunted high and low, and finally got refered to this Toyota Dealer (not any of the ones I hear about on here, which is a good thing). Well I got the quote and thought it was high but I really needed the part. so $277.00 Canadian was the cost they said it included all shipping to my door. Well withing several weeks I got 2 bills in the mail one for shipping charges and one for duty and customs, in total it cost me over 300.00 USD to get a $47.00 voltage regulator (the one that goes in the alternator). I learned my lesson quickly.

Cheers,

Michael

Custom duties seem to be charged erratically. Some orders from Canada get charged and some not. The shipping is usually pretty high.

I don't think it is any better going the other way. I bought a BJ42 and had some work on it done prior to shipping it to the US. A set of Longfields got delayed in Canadian customs for one month. It was truly amazing. They charged a duty too.

[cruiser_guy]

Originally Posted by brownbear

Yah it tough sending thru Canada.

I have never tried dealing with a part from the usa thru the post. But I will next time. I hate UPS. Everytime I used UPS I have been stung bad. Almost made me cry

I bought a fender(60 series non usa) from Sor. Price was 150 usd. Then I had to pay Sor 170 usd to ship it. Once it hit the boarder another hundred or more, with fee/tax/crap fees etc...

By the end I sat back, did the exchange and realized it cost me 600 canadian.

I don't totally blame SOR for that. Shipping can be steep but the customs duties is courtesy of our federal government and brokerage is because the government want's their piece of the pie (I've had to pay more brokerage than the customs duties before because brokerage is sort of fixed). I found it is generally better if it comes through the mail but there is still no guarantee.

[BreckenridgeCruiser]

Hey all... I have another string to discuss the group buy. I'll bump it to the top today. Turbo Glide is working with us to make all of the fees and duties as small as possible. I will post details as they come in...

Thanks!

Kraig

[Tapage]

Originally Posted by BreckenridgeCruiser

Hey all... I have another string to discuss the group buy. I'll bump it to the top today. Turbo Glide is working with us to make all of the fees and duties as small as possible. I will post details as they come in...

Thanks!

Kraig

great news Kraig .. I need it !

[dieselcruiserhead]

cool.. cruise_diesel was going to order one for his 3B today so you can add one more.. I told him to PM you his number as he's super interested.. Best, Andre

[eleblanc]

When i decided to put my BJ in good shape again i ordered many parts from SOR and other place. I soon realize only a few thing was worth importing them. For exemple my viair compressor. For exemple i needed a speedo cable. I think i saw it on SOR for 50 something. Even at this price it is not worth importing, i went and paid 100$ to the dealer...

If i'd have a large order let says 300-400$ more then i'd probably save 10-20%.

Being a business owner i can tell you things became real bad between our country (canada-usa) a few years ago. It was real easy and other then customs regular fee it wasn't any trouble. Don't know what happen, maybe the lumber dispute, but now its crazy..

Crazy..read this....i have many many rack mount servers being hosted in NY (i'm in Montreal CA) My rack is in a New York datacenter because of the geographical location and direct link to London. Well, each time i ship a 2k server to simply sit in my rack in NY i have to pay customs, fees AND taxes. Unfortunaly the only fix to that would be to have a office and address in the states, right now this is not a option. If i declare the value of the server, lets say 200$ i don't get to pay taxes but then some comapny like UPS won't take the package going to a business address if the package insured value is not the same has the declared value.....a real freakin mess..None sense, when two country with very similar level of business has to act like this. Once i shipped a 2k server with a declared value of 200$ and insurance of 2k and they lost the thing and didn't gave me more then 200$....


I'm going to get a turbo kit for my BJ. but Mostlikely in the spring. Right now i need OME spring and bushing, i already have the shocks. I should get that before Christmas.

I wonder if i drove down across the border get the kit installed on the truck and drive back? I'd need to find someone knowledgable about diresel/cruiser and turbo tho...I wouldn't risk a bad installation to save a few on customs fee and shipping..

[cruiser_guy]

Originally Posted by BreckenridgeCruiser

Hey all... I have another string to discuss the group buy. I'll bump it to the top today. Turbo Glide is working with us to make all of the fees and duties as small as possible. I will post details as they come in...

Thanks!

Kraig

The ONLY way they can do that is either reduce the price significantly, source from the USA/Canada (NAFTA) or lie on the customs invoice.
Naturally a group buy will have a lower brokerage fee but a percentage of duty doesn't change unless the bottom line changes.

[Jimmy B]

Was just wondering if anything finally happened with the group buy on the turbo kits ???

[JohnnyBoy]

f**k nafta. i may have a friend in for the group buy if its still a go. any details?

[Tapage]

I'm not interested anymore coz I make my own turbo kit ( with intercooler ) and it's running fine right now .. ( not sure if this way is more cheap or not .. it's pretty slow but you learn a lot's )