Project Help

Rescue Wagon · 01-01-06, 11:55 PM

Just picked up a 72 FJ40 frame and body for a Trail Rig project. I also have the remains of my 93 Dodge 3/4ton Cummins Diesel pickup.

The dodge has a Dana60 KingPin front, Dana70 rear, NP205, and of course the 6BT Cummins Diesel. I have seen info that others have done Diesel swaps with Fj's so I know it is possible.

What I am looking for is Ideas and Input on the best way to go about this project.

I appreciate the help.
James

MiniPigg · 01-03-06, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rescue Wagon

Just picked up a 72 FJ40 frame and body for a Trail Rig project. I also have the remains of my 93 Dodge 3/4ton Cummins Diesel pickup.

The dodge has a Dana60 KingPin front, Dana70 rear, NP205, and of course the 6BT Cummins Diesel. I have seen info that others have done Diesel swaps with Fj's so I know it is possible.

What I am looking for is Ideas and Input on the best way to go about this project.

I appreciate the help.
James

im game for helping you. let me know how to get in touch.

PabloCruise · 01-04-06, 08:38 AM

James,

I do not know much about these swaps, but Andre, Dieselcruiserhead, does, check his posts...

Welcome!

polarweasel · 01-05-06, 09:26 AM

Do you still have the frame from the Dodge? Shorten it and stick the FJ40 body on top. You could get really adventurous and lengthen the 40 body, too.

Rescue Wagon · 01-05-06, 09:53 AM

I still have the Dodge. I would think itwould be easier to adapt the dodge parts to the FJ frame then the other way around. But this is my first time doing this major of a swap.

So which way would be easier?

polarweasel · 01-09-06, 09:34 PM

Well sure it'd be easier, but the Dodge frame is probably stronger, and doesn't everyone want an FJ45?

Rescue Wagon · 01-12-06, 10:43 PM

I think I am going to try and cut down the Dodge Frame to fit the FJ40 onto it.

Is this hard to do? What would you have to do to insure the frame does come apart during wheeling?

Thanks again for the help.

James

FJBen · 01-13-06, 08:46 AM

The most common is welding back together with diamond shaped plates, that seems to do the trick for other people. I'll try to dig up a pic.

Ben

ridgerunner · 01-14-06, 11:35 PM

The best way to shorten/extend the frame:

http://medusa.ih8mud.com/cruiser/FJ45/Frame.html

Edit: While there's been Cruiser bodies on different frames before, personally I'd extend the frame and body of the 40. What tranny are you using?

Do you work at Warren AFB?

Rescue Wagon · 01-15-06, 12:58 AM

I think I am going to track down a Dodge auto tranny like a 727 and probably a 205 transfer case.

No I don't work at FE Warren, I am AGR(Full Time) Army National Guard.

ridgerunner · 01-15-06, 12:21 PM

What are the ultimate goals for this project? Tire size? Use? There's not much in Wyoming that requires giant tires. Colorado on the other hand...

I used to volunteer for Fire District 2 north of Cheyenne under Ken Aitchison. The Guard would respond to some of our fires north of town- awesome operations.

Rescue Wagon · 01-15-06, 02:30 PM

Currently plan on running 36's on Humvee wheels. I usually run Colorado and MOAB trails, so I will be building a Rock Crawler/a little of everthing else.

I am currently a volunteer with District 8, was a volunteer with Loveland Fire Rescue until September 2005. District 8's call volume is a little slow for my liking(56 calls last year), But its FireFighting. I live on the western edge of District 2.

MiniPigg · 01-16-06, 10:11 PM

RescueWagon.. good talking with you the other day. Look forward to helping with the project. Just let me know when you need an extra hand.

Rescue Wagon · 01-28-06, 10:31 PM

Got bored today and started to strip the 93 Dodge down to the frame today.

After talking with Frank, John, TJ, and Ben I decided to use the dodge frame and just add the 40 body to it. So I am starting to get it ready so I can shorten the dodge frame to fit the 40 to it.

Minipigg, I don't have your phone number so could you either call me or pm me your phone number. Thanks.

MiniPigg · 01-28-06, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rescue Wagon

Got bored today and started to strip the 93 Dodge down to the frame today.

After talking with Frank, John, TJ, and Ben I decided to use the dodge frame and just add the 40 body to it. So I am starting to get it ready so I can shorten the dodge frame to fit the 40 to it.

Minipigg, I don't have your phone number so could you either call me or pm me your phone number. Thanks.

Gosh I was on earlier... you must have posted after I left... I sent you a pm... next time send me a pm and I will call you.... its 2250 so Im not going to bother calling you this late at night.... if you are like me though you are proably still up working on the project.

01-01-06, 11:55 PM	#1
Rescue Wagon IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cheyenne, WY TLCA# 15626 Posts: 195	Project Help Just picked up a 72 FJ40 frame and body for a Trail Rig project. I also have the remains of my 93 Dodge 3/4ton Cummins Diesel pickup. The dodge has a Dana60 KingPin front, Dana70 rear, NP205, and of course the 6BT Cummins Diesel. I have seen info that others have done Diesel swaps with Fj's so I know it is possible. What I am looking for is Ideas and Input on the best way to go about this project. I appreciate the help. James

01-04-06, 08:38 AM	#3
PabloCruise IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Colorado TLCA# 10713 Posts: 4,945	James, I do not know much about these swaps, but Andre, Dieselcruiserhead, does, check his posts... Welcome! __________________ TJS -- 1978 FJ-40 1974 FJ-55 w/ 3FE CO/WY - Horsetooth 4 Wheelers Cruiser Club <<CLICK HERE>> for my Tech Threads

01-05-06, 09:26 AM	#4
polarweasel Where's mah cruzah? Join Date: May 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado TLCA# 17558 Posts: 789	Do you still have the frame from the Dodge? Shorten it and stick the FJ40 body on top. You could get really adventurous and lengthen the 40 body, too. __________________ 84 FJ60, locked and lifted and dismantled with Mercedes diesel 1982 BJ42 loud and slow daily driver on 33s Horsetooth 4-Wheelers

01-05-06, 09:53 AM	#5
Rescue Wagon IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cheyenne, WY TLCA# 15626 Posts: 195	I still have the Dodge. I would think itwould be easier to adapt the dodge parts to the FJ frame then the other way around. But this is my first time doing this major of a swap. So which way would be easier? __________________ 1990 FJ62 + 1983 FJ60 =

01-09-06, 09:34 PM	#6
polarweasel Where's mah cruzah? Join Date: May 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado TLCA# 17558 Posts: 789	Well sure it'd be easier, but the Dodge frame is probably stronger, and doesn't everyone want an FJ45? __________________ 84 FJ60, locked and lifted and dismantled with Mercedes diesel 1982 BJ42 loud and slow daily driver on 33s Horsetooth 4-Wheelers

01-12-06, 10:43 PM	#7
Rescue Wagon IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cheyenne, WY TLCA# 15626 Posts: 195	I think I am going to try and cut down the Dodge Frame to fit the FJ40 onto it. Is this hard to do? What would you have to do to insure the frame does come apart during wheeling? Thanks again for the help. James __________________ 1990 FJ62 + 1983 FJ60 =

01-13-06, 08:46 AM	#8
FJBen Whitey Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Greeley, Colorado TLCA# 15530 Posts: 2,590	The most common is welding back together with diamond shaped plates, that seems to do the trick for other people. I'll try to dig up a pic. Ben

01-14-06, 11:35 PM	#9
ridgerunner IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: КЫРГЫЗСТАН Posts: 1,046	The best way to shorten/extend the frame: http://medusa.ih8mud.com/cruiser/FJ45/Frame.html Edit: While there's been Cruiser bodies on different frames before, personally I'd extend the frame and body of the 40. What tranny are you using? Do you work at Warren AFB? Last edited by ridgerunner; 01-14-06 at 11:42 PM.

01-15-06, 12:58 AM	#10
Rescue Wagon IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cheyenne, WY TLCA# 15626 Posts: 195	I think I am going to track down a Dodge auto tranny like a 727 and probably a 205 transfer case. No I don't work at FE Warren, I am AGR(Full Time) Army National Guard. __________________ 1990 FJ62 + 1983 FJ60 =

01-15-06, 12:21 PM	#11
ridgerunner IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: КЫРГЫЗСТАН Posts: 1,046	What are the ultimate goals for this project? Tire size? Use? There's not much in Wyoming that requires giant tires. Colorado on the other hand... I used to volunteer for Fire District 2 north of Cheyenne under Ken Aitchison. The Guard would respond to some of our fires north of town- awesome operations.

01-15-06, 02:30 PM	#12
Rescue Wagon IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cheyenne, WY TLCA# 15626 Posts: 195	Currently plan on running 36's on Humvee wheels. I usually run Colorado and MOAB trails, so I will be building a Rock Crawler/a little of everthing else. I am currently a volunteer with District 8, was a volunteer with Loveland Fire Rescue until September 2005. District 8's call volume is a little slow for my liking(56 calls last year), But its FireFighting. I live on the western edge of District 2. __________________ 1990 FJ62 + 1983 FJ60 =

01-16-06, 10:11 PM	#13
MiniPigg IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Coulee Dam, WA TLCA# 7434 Posts: 1,418	RescueWagon.. good talking with you the other day. Look forward to helping with the project. Just let me know when you need an extra hand. __________________ 1989 FJ62 Factory Clean... 2FE 1994 FZJ80 Stock 1977 FJ55LV... Now owned by Rescue Wagon 1974 FJ55LV... Now owned by Calico kid 1973 FJ55LV... not sure who has it now. 1977 FJ55LV... RIP 1964 FJ45LV Yeah I know.... should have kept it.

01-28-06, 10:31 PM	#14
Rescue Wagon IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cheyenne, WY TLCA# 15626 Posts: 195	Got bored today and started to strip the 93 Dodge down to the frame today. After talking with Frank, John, TJ, and Ben I decided to use the dodge frame and just add the 40 body to it. So I am starting to get it ready so I can shorten the dodge frame to fit the 40 to it. Minipigg, I don't have your phone number so could you either call me or pm me your phone number. Thanks. __________________ 1990 FJ62 + 1983 FJ60 =

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