Project Anti-Purple

FJBen · 08-08-07, 05:28 PM

The time has come to do some rennovation on the beast.

My thoughts were that the valve/umbrella seals were leaking

this is a new rebuild with about 3,500 miles on it...but it sat for almost 5 years with very minimal use/starting. Plus there were a few mild leaks, mostly valve covers and then I'm going TBI...YES fuel injection!!! I've gone through the wiring, cleaned things up, painted...etc etc...

So rather than trying to stand over a SOA rig on 37's and do this...hell lets just pull the engine...REPAINT to some nice colors and fix it all. I'm currently in the middle of this whole process. Just need to put the tryanny/t-case back on and put her in the rig again...then comes attaching the wiring harness...

Here's two worthless pics...just so everyone knows that I"m actually working on my rig...

the bitter co-pilot...and the purple is gone!

FJ40zen · 08-08-07, 07:19 PM

Nice Ben. TBI !! Keep us posted. It is so nice to have a hoist to get down to the nitty-gritty and fix everything you need fixed. Are you re-wiring?

FJBen · 08-09-07, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FJ40zen

Nice Ben. TBI !! Keep us posted. It is so nice to have a hoist to get down to the nitty-gritty and fix everything you need fixed. Are you re-wiring?

some stuff...I re-did the factory TBI harness myself...and a lot of the power wires I re-did...so hopefully that will help. Should be ready to go in within the next couple of days.

FJ40zen · 08-09-07, 11:47 PM

JIT for the Rising Sun Rally!

PabloCruise · 08-10-07, 06:45 AM

That engine looks purtier than a new set of snow tires...

Uncle Ben · 08-10-07, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PabloCruise

That engine looks purtier than a new set of snow tires...

I like the way the purple is bleeding back through!

trucruiser · 08-10-07, 08:54 AM

Lookin good Ben,
If you dont mind, it would be cool to know approximately How much$ this TBI conversion cost when all said and done.

PabloCruise · 08-10-07, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Ben

I like the way the purple is bleeding back through!

FJBen · 08-10-07, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by trucruiser

Lookin good Ben,
If you dont mind, it would be cool to know approximately How much$ this TBI conversion cost when all said and done.

1 Million dollars

I'll let ya know when I"m done...this could be scary!

PabloCruise · 08-10-07, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FJBen

1 Million dollars

I'll let ya know when I"m done...this could be scary!

Aren't you supposed to be camping?

FJBen · 08-13-07, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PabloCruise

Aren't you supposed to be camping?

that was friday night, saturday and a little of sunday. It's starting to get a little chilly in the morning at 9,000 plus feet

Grabbing some more parts today, hopefully the engine will be back in the rig this weekend.

PabloCruise · 08-13-07, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FJBen

hopefully the engine will be back in the rig this weekend.

Saweet!!!

If you need to break away from wrenching, Los Lobos will be playing New West Fest. Also Leanne's birthday weekend...

FJ40zen · 08-14-07, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FJBen

that was friday night, saturday and a little of sunday. It's starting to get a little chilly in the morning at 9,000 plus feet

..........

Can't beat my air mattress and stocking cap when it gets like that.

FJBen · 08-14-07, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FJ40zen

Can't beat my air mattress and stocking cap when it gets like that.

I have a 35 below mummy bag that I've slept in snow-caves warm with...but the popup on the air mattress with a few blankets was CHILLY! I had my hoodie tied all the way up so my nose was the only thing sticking out

polarweasel · 08-14-07, 12:45 PM

An air mattress is really terrible when the ground gets cold... leaches all your body heat right out! Closed-cell foam is much warmer when the temperatures plummet. And man, I'd love to try out one of those down-insulated self-inflating mats from Exped, but at over a hundred bucks, it's a tough sell.

FJBen · 08-14-07, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by polarweasel

An air mattress is really terrible when the ground gets cold... leaches all your body heat right out! Closed-cell foam is much warmer when the temperatures plummet. And man, I'd love to try out one of those down-insulated self-inflating mats from Exped, but at over a hundred bucks, it's a tough sell.

agreed...the air mattresses are now ditched for foam...

Any ideas on where to get foam? Looking at king size area to cover...yeah

King size, thats how I roll!

PabloCruise · 08-15-07, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FJBen

...yeah

King size, thats how I roll!

Hmmm... I am thinking you should have left the engine in purple -

colors!!!

FJ40zen · 08-15-07, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by polarweasel

An air mattress is really terrible when the ground gets cold... leaches all your body heat right out! Closed-cell foam is much warmer when the temperatures plummet. And man, I'd love to try out one of those down-insulated self-inflating mats from Exped, but at over a hundred bucks, it's a tough sell.

You are 100% correct, but I found this to be less of a problem when I put down a non-water permeable layer between the tent and the ground and a layer of polar fleece between us and the bags. Besides, I don't want to carry around a big roll of foam since I tent camp and like to keep the equipment compact especially if I want to backpack with it.

Sorry if this seems like a hijack guys.

To each his own.

polarweasel · 08-16-07, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FJBen

agreed...the air mattresses are now ditched for foam...

Any ideas on where to get foam? Looking at king size area to cover...yeah

King size, thats how I roll!

There's a fabric shop on East Mulberry in Ft Collins that sells foam by the foot. Pretty good prices. You might call Verlo mattress factory in Boulder (they're on Walnut St right next to Twisted Pine Brewery), too, as I know they do a ton of foam.

Also, you can buy California King-sized 1", 2", or 3" layers of memory foam on overstock.com for ridiculously cheap right now. I'd do 2" of dense open-cell foam laminated under 1" of memory foam for a super-cush summer camping mattress. In the winter, I'd just suck it up and combine a Therm-A-Rest for cush with a closed-cell pad like a Z-Rest or a Ridge Rest for insulation.

FJBen · 08-20-07, 09:55 AM

Cool, thanks for the info!

Got some more work done this weekend.

You don't realize all the little odds and ends that go into pulling a drivetrain and swapping it back in. Riddled with all sorts of mishaps, this day took longer than it should have.

broken air compresser, putting idler gear on wrong

, leaking tranny, missing torque wrench, freeze plug falling in, rain...lol...thankfully my friends REALLY came an helped me out huge...without them, it would still be on the garage floor.

lots left to do

hook up exhaust, install O2 sensor, flare lines for clutch master/slave, put on the radiator, fan, new hoses,belts, throttle linkage, front clip, THEN install the EFI harness, ECU plug it all in and plumb the fuel lines... so a few things..

TBIFJ40 · 08-26-07, 11:32 AM

When I did my TBI conversion, It was just the price of the engine, which I pulled out of the Suburban I got it out of, the cost of a tune-up and all new seals, etc (if its out, re-seal it). I took all of the original wiring harness from the donor vehicle. So at that point it was $600.00, plus the other stuff = about $800.00 total. I put new exhaust in mine at that point also, I went 2" that blended into a single 2.5" exhaust. Its a pretty short system, Colo emissions wont let you run a cat on a non-cat vehicle, so no back pressure from the cat...At that point I put in the bung for the O2 sensor (put it as close to the manifold as you can, they need the heat to read correctly.) That was another $200.00. I used a vehcile speed sensor on the speedo cable on mine, from A company that makes custom apps for just such a thing...I think that was about $80.00. VEry important to have this piece! Then of course the time its takes to figure out the wiring, which is really pretty easy. So figure between $1000.00 and $1500.00 dollars to do it yourself. Im happy to loan expertise and sugestions (help) if need be. (my cruiser already had a V-8 in it, so I had already tackled issues like streering pumps, 100amp alternator, etc.)

Quent 65 fj40, 350 TBI
226 0468
219 5324

PabloCruise · 08-26-07, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TBIFJ40

Colo emissions wont let you run a cat on a non-cat vehicle,

Quent 65 fj40, 350 TBI
226 0468
219 5324

That seems odd, even if the engine was running a cat?

FJBen · 08-27-07, 09:40 AM

SHE"S ALIVE!!!!! After a looooong day yesterday and a few minor glitches, she fired and ran. Only ran for a few minutes as I didn't have my timing light, so I'll have to time it tonight. Sounds very nice and smooth. can't wait to test drive tonight.

PabloCruise · 08-27-07, 10:21 AM

Do you need to borrow a timing light? I have one.

Or just turn your desk lamp on/off really fast, works just about as well...

TBIFJ40 · 08-27-07, 07:57 PM

Cats are discouraged or not allowed on older vehicles that didnt have cats because of the heat they produce......Which can lead to a vehcile fire. Call the Colorado Emissions Center to confirm. I have their number if you need it.

08-08-07, 05:28 PM	#1
FJBen Whitey Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Greeley, Colorado TLCA# 15530 Posts: 2,590	Project Anti-Purple The time has come to do some rennovation on the beast. My thoughts were that the valve/umbrella seals were leaking this is a new rebuild with about 3,500 miles on it...but it sat for almost 5 years with very minimal use/starting. Plus there were a few mild leaks, mostly valve covers and then I'm going TBI...YES fuel injection!!! I've gone through the wiring, cleaned things up, painted...etc etc... So rather than trying to stand over a SOA rig on 37's and do this...hell lets just pull the engine...REPAINT to some nice colors and fix it all. I'm currently in the middle of this whole process. Just need to put the tryanny/t-case back on and put her in the rig again...then comes attaching the wiring harness... Here's two worthless pics...just so everyone knows that I"m actually working on my rig... the bitter co-pilot...and the purple is gone! Attached Images

08-08-07, 07:19 PM	#2
FJ40zen IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fort Collins TLCA# 17588 Posts: 357	Nice Ben. TBI !! Keep us posted. It is so nice to have a hoist to get down to the nitty-gritty and fix everything you need fixed. Are you re-wiring? __________________ *1978 FJ40* *Horsetooth 4 Wheelers* 396 417 528 639 741 852 963

08-09-07, 11:47 PM	#4
FJ40zen IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fort Collins TLCA# 17588 Posts: 357	JIT for the Rising Sun Rally! __________________ *1978 FJ40* *Horsetooth 4 Wheelers* 396 417 528 639 741 852 963

08-10-07, 06:45 AM	#5
PabloCruise IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Colorado TLCA# 10713 Posts: 4,945	That engine looks purtier than a new set of snow tires... __________________ TJS -- 1978 FJ-40 1974 FJ-55 w/ 3FE CO/WY - Horsetooth 4 Wheelers Cruiser Club <<CLICK HERE>> for my Tech Threads

08-10-07, 08:54 AM	#7
trucruiser IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 528	Lookin good Ben, If you dont mind, it would be cool to know approximately How much$ this TBI conversion cost when all said and done. __________________ 1984 FJ60 stock except for 33/10.5/15 BFG MT Learning is everything and everything is learning.

08-14-07, 12:45 PM	#15
polarweasel Where's mah cruzah? Join Date: May 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado TLCA# 17558 Posts: 789	An air mattress is really terrible when the ground gets cold... leaches all your body heat right out! Closed-cell foam is much warmer when the temperatures plummet. And man, I'd love to try out one of those down-insulated self-inflating mats from Exped, but at over a hundred bucks, it's a tough sell. __________________ 84 FJ60, locked and lifted and dismantled with Mercedes diesel 1982 BJ42 loud and slow daily driver on 33s Horsetooth 4-Wheelers

08-20-07, 09:55 AM	#20
FJBen Whitey Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Greeley, Colorado TLCA# 15530 Posts: 2,590	Cool, thanks for the info! Got some more work done this weekend. You don't realize all the little odds and ends that go into pulling a drivetrain and swapping it back in. Riddled with all sorts of mishaps, this day took longer than it should have. broken air compresser, putting idler gear on wrong , leaking tranny, missing torque wrench, freeze plug falling in, rain...lol...thankfully my friends REALLY came an helped me out huge...without them, it would still be on the garage floor. lots left to do hook up exhaust, install O2 sensor, flare lines for clutch master/slave, put on the radiator, fan, new hoses,belts, throttle linkage, front clip, THEN install the EFI harness, ECU plug it all in and plumb the fuel lines... so a few things.. Attached Images

08-26-07, 11:32 AM	#21
TBIFJ40 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: FT Collins, Co Posts: 178	When I did my TBI conversion, It was just the price of the engine, which I pulled out of the Suburban I got it out of, the cost of a tune-up and all new seals, etc (if its out, re-seal it). I took all of the original wiring harness from the donor vehicle. So at that point it was $600.00, plus the other stuff = about $800.00 total. I put new exhaust in mine at that point also, I went 2" that blended into a single 2.5" exhaust. Its a pretty short system, Colo emissions wont let you run a cat on a non-cat vehicle, so no back pressure from the cat...At that point I put in the bung for the O2 sensor (put it as close to the manifold as you can, they need the heat to read correctly.) That was another $200.00. I used a vehcile speed sensor on the speedo cable on mine, from A company that makes custom apps for just such a thing...I think that was about $80.00. VEry important to have this piece! Then of course the time its takes to figure out the wiring, which is really pretty easy. So figure between $1000.00 and $1500.00 dollars to do it yourself. Im happy to loan expertise and sugestions (help) if need be. (my cruiser already had a V-8 in it, so I had already tackled issues like streering pumps, 100amp alternator, etc.) Quent 65 fj40, 350 TBI 226 0468 219 5324

08-27-07, 09:40 AM	#23
FJBen Whitey Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Greeley, Colorado TLCA# 15530 Posts: 2,590	SHE"S ALIVE!!!!! After a looooong day yesterday and a few minor glitches, she fired and ran. Only ran for a few minutes as I didn't have my timing light, so I'll have to time it tonight. Sounds very nice and smooth. can't wait to test drive tonight.

08-27-07, 10:21 AM	#24
PabloCruise IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Colorado TLCA# 10713 Posts: 4,945	Do you need to borrow a timing light? I have one. Or just turn your desk lamp on/off really fast, works just about as well... __________________ TJS -- 1978 FJ-40 1974 FJ-55 w/ 3FE CO/WY - Horsetooth 4 Wheelers Cruiser Club <<CLICK HERE>> for my Tech Threads

08-27-07, 07:57 PM	#25
TBIFJ40 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: FT Collins, Co Posts: 178	Cats are discouraged or not allowed on older vehicles that didnt have cats because of the heat they produce......Which can lead to a vehcile fire. Call the Colorado Emissions Center to confirm. I have their number if you need it.