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05-20-06, 06:42 PM
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for those, muslims or non-muslims, who are interested in reading the translation and the explanation of Quran, here is a link. Kindly read and pass to friends and family. May ALLAH help all of us in understanding, and implementing HIS teachings in our lives. Amen. http://www.tafheem.net/main.html
Kindly start with the introduction page, on the left column.
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Dont confuse all muslims with terrorists.
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| well the way i look at it is......
If the Muslim religion isn't supportive of terrorists then its followers, the normal people, should take a stance against the terrorists and help the USA, UK, and anyother anti terror groups rid the world of terrorists.
I believe certain neighbor hoods in LA that were over run with gangs and drugs didn't start clearing up until the people decided to take back their neighborhoods
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Originally Posted by lexs470 Peace be to All of you,
for those, muslims or non-muslims, who are interested in reading the translation and the explanation of Quran, here is a link. Kindly read and pass to friends and family. May ALLAH help all of us in understanding, and implementing HIS teachings in our lives. Amen. http://www.tafheem.net/main.html
Kindly start with the introduction page, on the left column. |
I appreciate the link, but I am not sure I understand the sentiment?
New age missionary?
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Originally Posted by lunyou well the way i look at it is......
If the Muslim religion isn't supportive of terrorists then its followers, the normal people, should take a stance against the terrorists and help the USA, UK, and anyother anti terror groups rid the world of terrorists.
I believe certain neighbor hoods in LA that were over run with gangs and drugs didn't start clearing up until the people decided to take back their neighborhoods
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Originally Posted by Red Herring I appreciate the link, but I am not sure I understand the sentiment?
New age missionary? | seems more like someone who is tired of or doesnt want to be persecuted for the actions of others? and what way to really get to know others better than to understand them eh? at least thats how i see it.
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| ^I think that is what he was trying to say. But IMHO if he(muslims) wants to separate himself(*themselves) from them(terrorists) he shouldn't point to the book that the terrrorists claim they follow(though i am very sure the quran doesn't support the killing of innocent civilians).
The muslims should separate themselves from the terrorists by pointing them out.
They want america to accept them and not put them up with terrorists but it seems when the terrorists do something to america they cheer in the streets, double standard i think.
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Originally Posted by lunyou ^I think that is what he was trying to say. But IMHO if he(muslims) wants to separate himself(*themselves) from them(terrorists) he shouldn't point to the book that the terrrorists claim they follow(though i am very sure the quran doesn't support the killing of innocent civilians).
The muslims should separate themselves from the terrorists by pointing them out.
They want america to accept them and not put them up with terrorists but it seems when the terrorists do something to america they cheer in the streets, double standard i think.
lunyou | not the ones in amercia
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| Let me clarify myself....
When i said "by pointing them out" i meant that not in a physical sense of pointing fingers but they should put their religions size to use(as it is one of the biggest religions in the world). They could with their population call for a stand just like the Athests(SP) in america, the Homosexuals do, and Pro Choicers here in america do. The only reason i singled out those groups is because they go against the grain of what america was founded on.
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05-20-06, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by brett76 not the ones in amercia | are you meaning the muslims in america do not want to be accepted??
If so you make a good point, i think.
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Originally Posted by lunyou are you meaning the muslims in america do not want to be accepted??
If so you make a good point, i think.
lunyou | no what i meant was the ones in america are not jumping up and down in the streets.
and it seems to me that the ones here do speak out. but what else exactly would they do? leave their religion because of all the extremists? those people are fanatics and only ignorant people believe that they are all the same....
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Originally Posted by lunyou well the way i look at it is......
If the Muslim religion isn't supportive of terrorists then its followers, the normal people, should take a stance against the terrorists and help the USA, UK, and anyother anti terror groups rid the world of terrorists.
I believe certain neighbor hoods in LA that were over run with gangs and drugs didn't start clearing up until the people decided to take back their neighborhoods
lunyou | and what have you done to help put a stop to terrorists that share your faith?
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| I have decided to not voice my concerns with the muslim religion, terrorists or not. I do not want to sound like an a$$. I havent been able to figure out a way to say it in a nice manner so I am going to stay out of this one. I think there are more people who have the same views as myself, but I have been wrong before.
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| Why stop here? Let's discuss the crusades.
The number of killings over the ages in the "name of" organized religion are frightening.
Oh, btw, the topic is a repost (not necessarily the link) so let's end it here.
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Originally Posted by PromontoryCruiser80 I have decided to not voice my concerns with the muslim religion, terrorists or not. I do not want to sound like an a$$. I havent been able to figure out a way to say it in a nice manner so I am going to stay out of this one. I think there are more people who have the same views as myself, but I have been wrong before. | X2.
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| I have always admired the Quran's distinction between the concepts of "forgiveness of sins" and "acceptance of repentance."
I don't think this thread was intended to be an invitation for the expression of baseless opinions about the Islamic faith. So let's refrain, shall we?
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Originally Posted by bad_religion_au and what have you done to help put a stop to terrorists that share your faith? | name a terrrorist group that claim christianity as their main religion and actually do things "in the name of chrisitianity"
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Originally Posted by lunyou Let me clarify myself....
When i said "by pointing them out" i meant that not in a physical sense of pointing fingers but they should put their religions size to use(as it is one of the biggest religions in the world). They could with their population call for a stand just like the Athests(SP) in america, the Homosexuals do, and Pro Choicers here in america do. The only reason i singled out those groups is because they go against the grain of what america was founded on.
lunyou | I think you need to read up a bit more on:
-Your country's history
-Your country's niggardly and avaricious track record in the middle east, as well as other parts of the world
- middle eastern and islamic culture
before typing anymore. Just a suggestion.
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Originally Posted by lunyou name a terrrorist group that claim christianity as their main religion and actually do things "in the name of chrisitianity"
lunyou | http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96790&page=1
or the US government 
done much about the terrorists in northern ireland either?
get a clue, its not up to muslims to prove that they are "with you"... that's just arrogance and a reflection of your overinflated sense of self importance.
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