A note of sympathy for all the Democrat cruiserheads

[Red Herring]

Ya'all just keep this bullsh*t south of the 49th... and everything will be...alright!

[tuolumnejim]

Originally Posted by Gumby

Because the Republicans are doing just a great job now that they control the government. It took the Dems 30 years before they imploded. The congressional repubs are gonna do it in 10.

Lets look at your "leadership"?

Bill "I diagnosed her from her videotape" Frist
Tom "Don't drop the soap" DeLay
Dennis "I see nothing. Nooothing" Hastert
Dick "Lord Vader" Cheney

and the man who will go down in history as the Worst President Ever.

Nice group

What the hell are you talking about "Slick Willie" ain't the President now.

[Shahram]

Originally Posted by tuolumnejim

What the hell are you talking about "Slick Willie" ain't the President now.

Say what you want about Slick Willie, he was good for business. Best Republican president we ever had.

[94landcruiser]

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...706.DTL&nl=fix


George W. Bush Is Dead To Me
Nation cringes as the worst president ever continues long, painful slog to the end

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

Friday, July 7, 2006

It is like some sort of virus. It is like some sort of weird and painful rash on your face that makes you embarrassed to walk out the door and so you sit there day after day, waiting for it to go away, slathering on ointment and Bactine and scotch. And yet still it lingers.



Some days the pain is so searing and hot you want to cut off your own head with a nail file. Other days it is numb and pain-free and seemingly OK, to the point where you think it might finally be all gone and you allow yourself a hint of a whisper of a positive feeling, right up until you look in the mirror, and scream.

George W. Bush is just like that.



Everyone I know has had enough. Everyone I know is just about done. There is this threshold of happy deadened disgust, this point where the body simply resigns itself to the pain, a point where the disease, the poison has seeped so deeply into the bones that you just have to laugh and shrug it all off and go for a drink. Or 10.



I was having cocktails recently with a group of people, among whom were two lifetime Republicans, each in his 60s, corporate businessmen, one admittedly slightly more moderate than the other (to the point where, after once hearing a senator read off a long list of Bush's hideous environmental atrocities, actually let his conscience lead his choice and ended up voting for Kerry) but nevertheless both devoted members of the party.



Bush came up, as a topic, as a cancer, as a fetid miasma in the air. They were both shaking their heads. They were sighing heavily. They were both, in a word, disgusted. The more staunchly conservative of the two even went so far as to say he was so embarrassed and humiliated by this president, by this administration, so appalled at all the war atrocities and the wiretapping and the misuse of law, the fiscal irresponsibility and the abuse of the lower classes and the outright arrogance, that if the Dems could somehow produce a decent moderate candidate with a brain, he'd have zero problem switching allegiances and voting for him. Or her.



It may not sound like much. It may not seem like a major shift. But it is, in its way, sort of massive. For thoughtful Repubs with a conscience (they actually exist, I have seen them), there is little left to defend. There is little this administration has done among all categories of ostensible GOP values that they can look to with any sort of pride. Medicare? Shrinking the budget? Smaller government? Less intervention in our lives? Reduced spending? Increased respect in the international community? Responsible international citizen? Ha. Name your topic, BushCo has failed. Spectacularly. Intentionally.



Indeed, countless Dems were disappointed with Clinton's behavior during Monicagate. Many were ashamed that he would cheapen the office so badly by such trashy moral behavior.



But that was just a cheap little affair (our allies never understood all the fuss anyway). This was never the attitude toward Clinton's politics, his capacity to understand complex issues, his astounding political savvy. No one anywhere doubted he made the country richer, more environmentally conscious, more stable, more respected and admired. Clinton was globally adored not only for his charisma but for his contributions to world peace. Plus he could actually point to Afghanistan on a map.



What a difference a handful of years makes. Now, overseas, we are a joke. A threat. A toxin. We are considered reckless and arrogant and ignorant, dangerous not just to the rest of the world but to the overall health of the planet. No one anywhere understands how a man like Bush can be the leader of the Free World, stolen election or no.



Sure, smarter Europeans know full well that the United States is deeply divided between the pseudo-religious right-wing warmongers who control a tiny cadre of the powerful elite, and, well, everyone else. It does not matter. America's reputation as a powerful and respected diplomatic peacekeeper, as the nation that sets the standards for human rights and economic freedom and choice, is hobbled. Crippled. Is very nearly dead. How quickly can we recover? How much damage has been done? History will tell, and it will be ugly indeed.



Interesting feature interview with Al Gore in Rolling Stone recently. Gore mentions two amazing things: one is the discussion he's had with generals regarding Iraq, with one coming right out and admitting that Bush's disastrous Iraq war will go down as the worst invasion in American history, our greatest misstep, our most costly and debilitating mistake. Among top brass in the know, of this there is little question.



The other was about the discussions Gore's had with various major corporate CEOs about Gore's pet issue, global warming, and how obvious it is that 15 minutes after BushCo leaves office, we will have a radically new global warming policy. In other words, Bush won't do a thing about it in the next two years, despite how obvious it shall become that we are in crisis, simply because he can't risk finally coming out and admitting yet another enormous policy disaster. Not to mention how nearly six years of enviro policy abuse, from air quality to water to forestry to pollution deregulation on all his industrial pals, can't be undone with a smirk and a prayer.



Which is just another way of saying we are currently stuck. We are swirling around the bottom of the drain, clinging on to anything that might hold us from going under for just a little while longer. We have to let the neocon disease run its course, and just pray that at the end of it all the scarring and the pain and damage will not be so permanent, and so hideous, that we can't be seen in public for a decade.



This is where it stands: Bush can in no way risk alienating the ultra-right-wing bonk-job contingent that put him in office (they are, considering Bush's 32-percent approval rating, the only ones left even remotely supporting him -- even though, according to many estimates, they're starting to abandon him, too), and hence all policy and all agenda items from here on out will be even more vicious and desperate in an attempt to shore up the base. Hence trying to mutilate the Constitution to ban gay marriage. Hence attacking the New York Times and claiming newspapers are endangering American lives.



In other words, Bush's latest nasty, Rove-designed salvos and upcoming attacks to save a sliver of power and pride and sneering GOP control are just the beginning.



However -- praise Jesus and pass the scotch -- they are the beginning of the end.

[Cruisin'Carolina]

This thread, the great source of the new path of enlightenment as shown to us by Sharam...has now been desecrated by the post above.

Who dare post a political post in this thread!

After reading that, I just threw up a little in my mouth. It was on the website Rugster gets all of his drivel from.

[94landcruiser]

Rinse

[surfpig]

Gargle

[surfpig]

Originally Posted by TheIglu

Ha ha ha, I just finished reading this thread. I stumbled upon it while searching for an easy way to grease my Birf's!

So it's your fault!

[folsom50]

spit

[94landcruiser]

Originally Posted by TheIglu

Ha ha ha, I just finished reading this thread. I stumbled upon it while searching for an easy way to grease my Birf's!

Why in gods green earth would you be looking for constructive technical input in chit chat?????

[Cruisin'Carolina]

Ok. Still a little nasty. I guess I'll go brush.

[94landcruiser]

Originally Posted by Cruisin'Carolina

Ok. Still a little nasty. I guess I'll go brush.

Listerine?

[Cruisin'Carolina]

I think I'm OK now....whew.

[TheIglu]

Originally Posted by Shahram

Dude, you were searching Hillary Clinton on Mud while you were "greasing your birfs"?




That's friggin' gross.

Some post way back on page 4 or something compared repairing birf's to the war in Iraq or something....ha ha ha!!!!

[yooper]

BTT for true inanity

[JJS]

Originally Posted by Brian in Oregon

I was a Libertarian (capital L) once.

But the Libertarian movement is all but dead. It's mainly a bunch of pot smokers who sit in their mother's basement watching Gilligan's Island reruns, leeching off her Social Security checks, while hoping the Libertarians get enough votes to decriminalize dope.

Sadly, Libertarians can't even get elected dog catcher.

It is pretty unfortunate. I think too many so-called supporters view Libertarianism as a means of getting pot legalized and nothing more. A lack of a strong candidate never helps matters, either. It's come down to selecting the lesser of two evils.

[bkfj40]

I'm just glad that we are winning the war on terrorism that bush started


bk

[tomatopants]

I don't remember the pretenses that Bill Clinton used for attacking Iraq twice while he was in office.





Refresh me?

[FJ40_owner]

Originally Posted by HZJ60 Guy

Democrats are people (in general) ruled by their emotions. Republicans in general have a more moral center as Christianity plays a much bigger role in their party and their lives. I’m not saying they’re perfect, nobody is, bit I give you this to show the difference between the moral/political bankrupt, backwards political ideology of the Marxist democrat party, and the republicans.

The Republican Party believe it's wrong to kill *innocent* babies in the whom (or outside the whom with partial birth abortion) and that it's morally correct (in fact they have a societal responsibility) to kill murdering rapist scumbags through state sponsored capital punishment.

The democrats think it's fine (more than that, necessary) to kill *innocent* babies in the whom, but that it's WRONG, and how dare we kill murdering, rapist scumbags through capital punishment. Look at all those idiotic Hollywood freaks that came screaming for Tookie Williams. The rat bastard killed four people in cold blood.

If that doesn’t explain the difference between the parties, and how morally bankrupt the democrats are I don’t know what is?

To the Marxist democrats the world is GREY!
To the conservative right the world is black and white.

Dont waste your time hammering me for whatever Bush has done in office. Im not happy with much of what he's done. Whatever he has or hasnt done in office, he's infinately better than Gore-bachev or Kerry would have been!

Its womb

[jsaltlick]

Let's hope Bush invades Iran before he leaves so we'll all be fucked for eternity. Any asshole that would vote for a guy that couldn't even run the Texas Rangers properly is a jackhole.

[IronYuppy]

TTT

[89GASHOG]

Garrison Keillor got in right in 2004:



Something has gone seriously haywire with the Republican Party. Once, it was the party of pragmatic Main Street businessmen in steel-rimmed spectacles who decried profligacy and waste, were devoted to their communities and supported the sort of prosperity that raises all ships....
The genial Eisenhower was their man, a genuine American hero of D-Day, who made it OK for reasonable people to vote Republican. He brought the Korean War to a stalemate, produced the Interstate Highway System, declined to rescue the French colonial army in Vietnam, and gave us a period of peace and prosperity, in which (oddly) American arts and letters flourished and higher education burgeoned—and there was a degree of plain decency in the country. Fifties Republicans were giants compared to today’s...
In the years between Nixon and Newt Gingrich, the party migrated southward down the Twisting Trail of Rhetoric and sneered at the idea of public service and became the Scourge of Liberalism, the Great Crusade Against the Sixties, the Death Star of Government, a gang of pirates that diverted and fascinated the media by their sheer chutzpah, such as the misty-eyed flag-waving of Ronald Reagan who, while George McGovern flew bombers in World War II, took a pass and made training films in Long Beach. The Nixon moderate vanished like the passenger pigeon, purged by a legion of angry white men who rose to power on pure punk politics. “Bipartisanship is another term of date rape,” says Grover Norquist, the Sid Vicious of the GOP. “I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.” The boy has Oedipal problems and government is his daddy.

The party of Lincoln and Liberty was transmogrified into the party of hairy-backed swamp developers and corporate shills, faith-based economists, fundamentalist bullies with Bibles, Christians of convenience, freelance racists, misanthropic frat boys, shrieking midgets of AM radio, tax cheats, nihilists in golf pants, brownshirts in pinstripes, sweatshop tycoons, hacks, fakirs, aggressive dorks, Lamborghini libertarians, people who believe Neil Armstrong’s moonwalk was filmed in Roswell, New Mexico, little honkers out to diminish the rest of us, Newt’s evil spawn and their Etch-A-Sketch president, a dull and rigid man suspicious of the free flow of information and of secular institutions, whose philosophy is a jumble of badly sutured body parts trying to walk. Republicans: The No.1 reason the rest of the world thinks we’re deaf, dumb and dangerous.

Rich ironies abound! Lies pop up like toadstools in the forest! Wild swine crowd round the public trough! Outrageous gerrymandering! Pocket lining on a massive scale! Paid lobbyists sit in committee rooms and write legislation to alleviate the suffering of billionaires! Hypocrisies shine like cat turds in the moonlight! O Mark Twain, where art thou at this hour? Arise and behold the Gilded Age reincarnated gaudier than ever, upholding great wealth as the sure sign of Divine Grace....

[msahr]

[webelk6]

Originally Posted by stinkyfj60

Nope, Clinton already has that spot, and no amount of intern ass will get him out of it

Funny , my way to my bro in laws for the game, I saw a bumper sticker that read

MONICA LEWINSKY'S X-BOYFRIEND'S WIFE FOR PRESIDENT

[IronYuppy]

Originally Posted by HZJ60 Guy

...
To the conservative right the world is black and white.
...

And that is why the neo-conservative right's ideology is unsound; the world is not black and white. Only simpletons believe it is.

If the world, or even the US, was black and white, there would not be such legal cornerstones as "justifiable homicide". In fact, the entire legal system is built on the premise that there are underlying causes behind every action.

Example: shoot a doctor who performs abortions. Is that murder, or are you defending thousands of unborn children? Answer that one with a black or white response.

You know who else believes the world is black and white? The Taliban.

[hodag]

Originally Posted by IronYuppy