Greenpeace. We get to deal with these idiots everyday.

sisukid1975 · 11-11-05, 07:54 AM

http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/engli.../1101981595999

Thye don't like cutting trees for paper, but I'll bet everyone of them wipes their ass with that very paper...

Or maybe they don't?

We get to deal with these nutjobs everyday. Now, they even have a problem with us cutting FELLED trees that have fallen down naturally because of wind, old age, whatetever.

Fred

HawkDriver · 11-11-05, 07:58 AM

89GASHOG · 11-11-05, 09:34 AM

There's a related article linked below the one you offered that explains what's going on there-in Finland! Where'd you dig this up from? Evidently, the tree cutting is in direct conflict with reindeer herders' interests, and the herders don't have the financial ability to post the bond necessary to halt the logging. Therefore, Greenpeace has stepped in to help them. Now tell me, what's so idiotic about that?

sisukid1975 · 11-11-05, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 89GASHOG

There's a related article linked below the one you offered that explains what's going on there-in Finland! Where'd you dig this up from? Evidently, the tree cutting is in direct conflict with reindeer herders' interests, and the herders don't have the financial ability to post the bond necessary to halt the logging. Therefore, Greenpeace has stepped in to help them. Now tell me, what's so idiotic about that?

Nothing I guess. You won't miss paper that much I take it?

And I suppose if you want to get the depth of story you should read the finnish version. THese things don't always translate so great.

Fred

sisukid1975 · 11-11-05, 09:41 AM

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There's a related article linked below the one you offered that explains what's going on there-in Finland! Where'd you dig this up from?

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Good question. Have any ideas, Sherlock?

Fred

89GASHOG · 11-11-05, 11:22 AM

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Nothing I guess. You won't miss paper that much I take it?

So and so opposes a specific logging venture, therefore so and so doesn't value paper. Try that one in debating class and you'll come away with an "F"!

Darwood · 11-11-05, 11:33 AM

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So and so opposes a specific logging venture, therefore so and so doesn't value paper. Try that one in debating class and you'll come away with an "F"!

But it's greenpeace, and greenpeace = the suck. So I give Fred +3 points so he gets a B.

flintknapper · 11-11-05, 11:41 AM

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But it's greenpeace, and greenpeace = the suck. So I give Fred +3 points so he gets a B.

And since the liberal factions have allowed us to grade "on the curve"...he gets another 2 points, which effectively brings his score up to an A!

KliersLC · 11-11-05, 11:45 AM

According to the US Gov, Greenpeace is a terrorist organization(eco terrorists) so that gives Fred an A+

stinkyfj60 · 11-11-05, 11:46 AM

I am confused why Greenpeace is involved. Maybe I need to re-read it but I dont seem to see anywhere that it mentions specific psuedo environmental damage. Just that it may or may not disrupt some reindeer herder's operations. Since when does Greenpeace protect the legal slaughter and milking of reindeer

OH wait a minute, they arent protecting anything, they are trying do stop an industrial operation. Nevermind.

Jan-78FJ40 · 11-11-05, 11:48 AM

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According to the US Gov, Greenpeace is a terrorist organization(eco terrorists) so that gives Fred an A+

proof?
maybe you mix them up with ELF?

HawkDriver · 11-11-05, 12:07 PM

Yeah generally speaking, Greenpeace, Sierra Club and all the other environmental extremist groups are just out to be a pain in the ass, they have no grounds for what they do. We should just lose all of em. I'm sure that the corporations that are making a killing off of their products will keep all of our best interests in mind.

Ever heard of recycled TP, how about regular paper? Look it up.

KliersLC · 11-11-05, 12:10 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenpeace

Very near the bottom of the page.

Dan

And another
http://www.taemag.com/issues/article...cle_detail.asp

sisukid1975 · 11-11-05, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stinkyfj60

I am confused why Greenpeace is involved. Maybe I need to re-read it but I dont seem to see anywhere that it mentions specific psuedo environmental damage. Just that it may or may not disrupt some reindeer herder's operations. Since when does Greenpeace protect the legal slaughter and milking of reindeer

OH wait a minute, they arent protecting anything, they are trying do stop an industrial operation. Nevermind.

Exactly. It's less of an environmental thing and more of a social, anti-corporate thing.

What they've involved themselves in is a tenant-landlord dispute. The landlord decided he could make more money (his right, even in Socialist Finland) by leasing his land to a forestry company.

Fred

RHINO · 11-11-05, 03:11 PM

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Nothing I guess. You won't miss paper that much I take it?

Fred

not if they start makin butt rags outta HEMP!!!! long live HEMP

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sisukid1975 · 11-11-05, 03:32 PM

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not if they start makin butt rags outta HEMP!!!! long live HEMP

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Have to redesign the machines, but at $300 million apiece, we'll gladly oblige to design new machines.

Kinda scratchy though, don't ya think?

NorCalDoug · 11-11-05, 03:57 PM

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Yeah generally speaking, Greenpeace, Sierra Club and all the other environmental extremist groups are just out to be a pain in the ass, they have no grounds for what they do. We should just lose all of em. I'm sure that the corporations that are making a killing off of their products will keep all of our best interests in mind.

Ever heard of recycled TP, how about regular paper? Look it up.

Recycled TP?
Don't know about you, but I'm hesitant to wipe twice with the same wad...let alone using some that's been scrubbed clean after being used on someone else's ass. Recycled TP? Bah. Thanks but no thanks -- I'll use the fresh kind.

And generally, yes, Greenpeace, the Sierra Club and most other environmental EXTREME groups are just trying to be a pain in the ass. It's their primary tactic -- being a pain in the ass. That's how they fulfill their agenda.

Most people mean well, but for the most part, they're misguided and they take things way too far -- I understandy why they do it, but they're not making any friends by doing what they do they way they do it.

Lumber, IIRC, is considered a renewable resource. Most lumber companies replant -- if they didn't, they wouldn't be doing much to ensure future operations.

Darwood · 11-11-05, 04:17 PM

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Recycled TP?
Don't know about you, but I'm hesitant to wipe twice with the same wad...let alone using some that's been scrubbed clean after being used on someone else's ass. Recycled TP? Bah. Thanks but no thanks -- I'll use the fresh kind.

That and the fact that recycled TP is like 200 grit sand paper. Take that hemroids!

HawkDriver · 11-11-05, 04:48 PM

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Recycled TP?
Don't know about you, but I'm hesitant to wipe twice with the same wad...let alone using some that's been scrubbed clean after being used on someone else's ass. Recycled TP? Bah. Thanks but no thanks -- I'll use the fresh kind.

HAHAHAHA

It does sound funny doesn't it.

I agree that some of em get a little over board, but they get results. In some cases it's probably not needed, but often times they're actually trying to protect things that what seems like only a few of us actually give a shit that are preserved.

I hear ya on the tree farms and I'm all for it, now cutting down the limited old growth forests to sell for paper when there are other means available, not so much.

Now I havn't done the research on the specific finland paper topic so I don't have a side on the matter, and being that I'm not an extremist I really don't give a fawk. That's why I said that I was generally speaking.

Hanging from bridges to divert a huge ship is funny shit.

semlin · 11-11-05, 09:05 PM

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HAHAHAHA Hanging from bridges to divert a huge ship is funny shit.

not so funny. in reality they are reckless idiots who have inflicted a lot of unnecessary stress and suffering on others with their stupid stunts and their disgustingly dishonest ends justifies the means campaigns. I am aware of an incident in which the master of a log barge was terrorized by greenpeace activists. he was shaking unctrollably as he describe the zodiacs tossing activists in the water in front of him in waters where he had no room to manouever. he had to cut his motors and pray as the tide brought them right into his path. Then the geniuses boarded his vessel and chained themselves to his unstable log load forcing him to drop anchor in exposed waters. then the snotty 22 year old know it all bastards had the gall to lecture him about whether or not they and the vessel were safe. Ask the RCMP officers who had to climb the crane gantries and cut the protesters chains off while they posed for the cameras whether it was funny shit.