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11-09-05, 05:13 PM
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| School Punishment Hey Gang got a question for ya'll out there. What do you all think about kids gettin spanked in school. Give ya a little background on myself...I'm 28 got a girl friend and no kids. I remember goin to elementary school and kids gettin spanked when you got in trouble. But now a days you can't spank a kid in school. And what made me post this thread is last night I saw a thing on using tasers in school and just now on Jim Leher news hour they had a segment on an innercity school that 1/4 of the kids were in special ed at the school..along with kids walkin out of the classroom, gettin in fights, disrespecting teachers, etc. Well what gets me is we(meaning everyone around my age and older) got spanked in school when we did bad things and I think we all turned out ok for the most part. So why do parents and school board officals wanna keep out school punishment like spanking out of the classroom today? But now they have to use a taser inorder to keep a kid in line.
I can remember when I was in first grade. There was one teacher on the culdasack that had a paddle and all the classroom doors were open. You could tell when a kid got in trouble because you could see him walk over to Ms. Higgins Classroom. And about 2 seconds later you hear a big ole WHACK...OOWWW. Well that kept most of the other kids in line and was a reminder to everyone else to behave.
Now I hope if I have kids that I will do a good job raising them, but I know when they are away at school they are gonna misbehave...all I have to do is look at myself...lol. But I would rather a teacher spank my kid and keep him in line so he can do what he is there for..TO LEARN. Than to be a constant distraction to everyone else and fail the 3rd grade 5 times. I would rather them get spanked as they come up in school than to get to the 6th grade and be one hellian and then have to get tazered just to get him under control. I don't feel that spanking is abusive as long as it's done with a paddle. And I think kids usually got whacked 4 or 5 times and that was enough to make em hurt for the morning. And it was a pretty good reminder not to do it again.
Thanks for reading and hope to hear your ideas about this matter.
Chuck
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11-09-05, 05:19 PM
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| Old saying: "Spare the rod and spoil the child". I agree with it completely. Kids usually don't understand anything better than a paddle (or belt) to the ass. I got both as a kid, and I turned out....well............okay nevermind
Seriously though I completely believe in the power of spanking to discipline a child.
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11-09-05, 05:22 PM
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| They take God out of the classroom.Teachers can't snatch a kid up when their out of line.Parents can't be parents.Hell yes,it's gone too far.My kids are great. Just got their mid terms...nothing lower than a B.I'm lucky,but I PARENT.And if it comes to it ,I'll PARENT when I get out. |
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11-09-05, 05:40 PM
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| People don't seem to understand that there is big difference between spanking a child and beating a child. No one, child or adult deserves a beating. When a child is young, a few swats won't hurt them. They are not stupid, they will get the message. I would sonner have them learn what is acceptable when they are 3-6 years old than be out of control when they are 13-16. Kids today have no respect for anyone. If I had treated any of my teachers, friend's parents, etc. the way kids today do, I guarantee you that my parents would have made sure I was not alive today to tell you about it. I was born and raised in Thailand and the teachers would NOT ( with my parents blessing) tolerate bad behavior or language. Many times I went home after school and told my Mom I got spanked. All she said was "You must have deserved it".
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11-09-05, 05:43 PM
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| so they dont allow spankings and now they want to bypass spankings for tazering?
part of me does not like that idea at all. but the other part of me would love to tazer high school kids
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11-09-05, 05:45 PM
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| well god out of classroom is not the issue. it's loving everyone and the fuzzy creatures, guns are bad, "not a wise choice Leon", etc, etc. (um, kay).
we, as a society have slid and listened to idiots who have installed harsher penalties for animal abuse then manslaughter. Like the "assault" thread, you can't touch anyone these days-which might acutally mean we have gone too far in enforcement. But thankfully the lawyers have saved us from our transgressions.
circa 1971, I was in phys ed (1st grade) just outside D.C. at a quaker school (you know, pacifists). I remember the day well when Andre Talley pissed off the coach "Spirodoupolus". Spiro rolled his big class ring around to the underside of his hand and clocked Andre on the top of his head.
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11-09-05, 05:48 PM
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11-09-05, 05:54 PM
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| I think you all might remember the issue we are having with the rapist/stalker that has been harrassing my Niece and now my Daughter..... Ya the School isnt doing shit about it. I had a word with the principal yesterday and he said he was aware of it... but are they taking any steps to assure the safety of my daughter and niece or other girls he is doing this to? No.... just saying they are aware of it and observing.
I guess they think its a phase and he might grow out of it... and then people wounder why we have cereal rapists.
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11-09-05, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MiniPigg I guess they think its a phase and he might grow out of it... and then people wounder why we have cereal rapists. | It's a serious post, but damn that is some funnay shiat.
cereal rapists. LOL
I think you meant serial rapists as in someone who rapes again and again.
A cereal rapist would have non-consentual sex with his Cheerios. |
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11-09-05, 06:01 PM
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| The way i hear some of your guys bitch about teachers and you're gonna let them hit your kid?
Right. |
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11-09-05, 06:08 PM
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11-09-05, 06:09 PM
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| Kids that are out of control in the classroom are out of control at home. It all goes back to the parents.
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11-09-05, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CruisinTiger So why do parents and school board officals wanna keep out school punishment like spanking out of the classroom today? But now they have to use a taser inorder to keep a kid in line.
Chuck | teachers+law suites
parents, my understanding is no one wants to admit they suck at raising a kid so hands off.
personally, there is a difference from discipline and beating. a society with out discipline will not remain a society for long..
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11-09-05, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Gumby A cereal rapist would have non-consentual sex with his Cheerios.  | This made my day
28 and remembered being spanked in school? I'm 29 and that never happened where I grew up, of course I grew up in Southern California where we were taught that Northern California and Arizona were pissed that we stole all their water and that if we didn't conserve water we would run out and NorCal and Arizona would point fingers and laugh at us. Ahh Ricky the Raindrop, where are you now?
Of course the real problem is the parents. We really need a way to keep people that shouldn't from reproducing. Natural selection sure isn't working, not with all the safety laws around.
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11-09-05, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Gumby A cereal rapist would have non-consentual sex with his Cheerios.  | I will never be able to look a cereal box the same.
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11-09-05, 07:13 PM
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| It's amusing I was just having a very similar conversation with my dad the other day, I am 33 and have a younger brother who is 29 he told my dad that he thought he got spanked to much when he was younger, I asked my dad what he said, "sorry son your mother and I did the best we could, I tried to never spank you when I was mad or when I was not under control". My dad asked me if I felt he spanked us to much, I said heck ya! when I was 10 I thought that, but now when I look back I feel it was very justified, and I appreciate the fact that I was raised with a finality to my punishment. If I did something worth getting grounded for I got grounded but, I new if I did it again there was more to come I would get spanked. I have a friend who will not lay a hand on there son and he knows it there is no ultimate punishment, no son, please don't do that son, thats not nice, you have to respect other peoples property son, do you need to come sit down for a while son. Man I hear them all while the kid runs crazy with no fear of punishment. I see this alot in my shop with peoples kids also, they will be running crazy, I have literely started saying the price of the items the kids a tossing around the shop to get the parents attention as they are telling there child OH! please stop pulling on all the handlebars of the bikes thats not nice! My dog behaves better!! My parents spanked me and I new when my dad said we are going into this store I want you to keep your hand to yourself, I had to or there was a chance I would get spanked. The art is knowing how a child reacts to punishment and structurieng his/her discipline accordingly, some kids a spanking may work in only certain situations, with each child individually. But heck ya I got spanked in school my parents signed the form but had to be notified when such occasions occured.
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11-09-05, 07:22 PM
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| i got spanked in school...i am 26(yikes) corporal punishment is still on the books In CT (according to my GF who is a teacher) but they won't use it. anyway i got spanked at home too and i knew that i had done something wrong and we talked about it ect ect and then i got spanked....
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11-09-05, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Gumby It's a serious post, but damn that is some funnay shiat.
cereal rapists. LOL
I think you meant serial rapists as in someone who rapes again and again.
A cereal rapist would have non-consentual sex with his Cheerios.  | yes... i get pissed off in a hurry and forget how to spell.... thank you for the correction.
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11-09-05, 11:50 PM
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| i am 20 and in college. the people my age, friends i have grown up with, have been disciplined have turned out to be respectable individuals. the opposite which can be very ugly. i am in the middle.
i was not disiplined in middle school and high school. i wish i was. being raised by my grandmother, i have absorbed a some of her "oldfashioned" views (respect for others, "if you dont have something good to say, dont say anything at all", being frugal, ect.), but in general she didnt teach me disipline. . my dad did at a younger age and so i know the difference. if she had, things like college would be easier. i was never punished for my grades. i slacked my way through high school and got in some bad habits (procrastination). i am having a hell of a time trying to change my ways in college. i didnt teach myself how to do things like study proficientally. college is so much harder than high school. i graduated from a very respectable school. i am in my third year and still ranked as a sophmore (not uncommon, but unacceptable in my eyes). even with the smallest amount of discpline i would have better grades and possibly have a better idea of what i want to do in life.
because of the way violence is percieved in the country, discipline is going to be a hard idea to impose on children because of all the legalities, and overexagerated ideas put in parents and childrens minds by TV. the difference between no discipline and a small amount of disipline is huge. there is also over disipling which can be very bad once college comes around.
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11-10-05, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MiniPigg yes... i get pissed off in a hurry and forget how to spell.... thank you for the correction.  |
Sorry to belabor this but oh man that was funny - made me think of the movie American Pie
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